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jpa0741
02/25/2006, 02:56 PM
I have a 92 g. FOWLR tank. I would like some advice on the chance of these fish getting along.

1 percula clown
1 flameangel
1 hippo tang

jpa0741
02/25/2006, 02:59 PM
Sorry but that was not the whole list.

1 percula clown
1 flameangel
1 hippo tang
1 dwarf lion
1 humo humo trigger

Any advice would be great.

Thanks, Jeff

emperior911
02/25/2006, 03:13 PM
I wouldn't keep a hippo in anything less then a 125, the picasso's tend to get really agressive as they get older. i've had one eat a sand sifter. unless you keep the picasso with puffers, groupers, other triggers and large wrasses i wouldn't try it

i'd go with:

Yellow tang and or purple tang
flame angel
pair of percs
harlequin tusk

jpa0741
02/25/2006, 03:52 PM
I can do without hippo but would like a dwarf lion or trigger which would be better with the other fish listed.

marrone
02/25/2006, 04:14 PM
You don't need a 125 to keep a Hippo tang, it will do well in your 92gal corner tank. Just get a small Hippo, not those nickel size ones as they have a bad survial rate, get one about the size of atleast a quarter. It's not good to keep Triggers with Lion fish as they will nip there fins and chase them aroudn the tank and stressthem out to the point where they die. Just make sure the percula clown is large enough so the Lion wouldn't swallow it and you should be fine.

jpa0741
02/25/2006, 05:41 PM
So if I go with my original list but leave out the trigger I would be o.k.

marrone
02/25/2006, 05:58 PM
Yes a 92 gal corner tank is a pretty good size tank, even though you don't have the length of a 4' tank, it's still a good size tank and the fish that you sellect aren't that large and outside of the Hippo don't get that big.

emperior911
02/26/2006, 01:48 AM
once again, i wouldn't put a blue tang in a 92 corner. they get huge. I've seen one 12" inches thats 3" fat. you could do a small one but you'll stunt his growth. I used to manage a fish store. My boss had 2 display tanks. one was a 125 the other was a 90 gallon ... he actually added 2 blue tangs at the same time. one in each tank. in 5 years, the blue tang in the 125 was 12 inches, the blue tang in the 90 only hit 5 inches. this proves that the fish will only grow to the size of the tank.

emperior911
02/26/2006, 02:03 AM
the blue tangs started out at 3 inches. Also, i wouldn't keep a lion with percs, the lion will get big enough to knock off any male species of clown fish

marrone
02/26/2006, 08:22 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6829442#post6829442 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by emperior911
the blue tangs started out at 3 inches. Also, i wouldn't keep a lion with percs, the lion will get big enough to knock off any male species of clown fish


Blue tang(Hippo tangs) don't start off at 3" you can get one as small as 1/2".


Unless the fish are small enough to eat the lion will not knock they off. On top of that he getting a Dwarf Lion.

marrone
02/26/2006, 08:25 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6829412#post6829412 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by emperior911
once again, i wouldn't put a blue tang in a 92 corner. they get huge. I've seen one 12" inches thats 3" fat. you could do a small one but you'll stunt his growth. I used to manage a fish store. My boss had 2 display tanks. one was a 125 the other was a 90 gallon ... he actually added 2 blue tangs at the same time. one in each tank. in 5 years, the blue tang in the 125 was 12 inches, the blue tang in the 90 only hit 5 inches. this proves that the fish will only grow to the size of the tank.

Your not going to stunt fish growth, they will grow and tank size is not going to stop them. This maybe true in freshwater but not in salt, the other thing is maybe the fish wouldn't grow as fast.

emperior911
02/26/2006, 02:29 PM
i know they dont start off at 3". But at 2-3" they tend to adapt better then a .5-1" blue tang. Are you trying to disagree with everything i am saying? lol i've experenced it first hand buddy. your saying if you keep any fish in any tank it's not gonna stunt they're growth. only freshwater right? lmao

second. have you ever raised 2 clown fish? when they pair off the male usually doesn't grow. generally stays around 1-2 inches. a dwarf lion will be able to fit the male in his mouth. the only way around that is if he bought a large clown to start out with.

marrone
02/26/2006, 03:02 PM
Emperior911

For some one that says he speaking for experiences and then says that Hippo start at 3" that doesn't says much for you experiences. Now yes very small ones, size of a nickel, don't usually make it by the next size up about a quarter to 1" usually do very well. Even then a 2"-3" Hippo will be fine in a 92gal tank.

Second he said 1 clown not a pair or clowns, your the one one who stated a pair of clowns, and yes I have raised clown and yes the male is the smaller of the two but depending on when you get them and the type of clown both can be large and large enough not to get swallowed by a dwarf Lion fish. You'll actually find a # of people here keeping both without a problem.

As for stunting grow on fish, do you think you can put a shark or eel in a small tank and it will not grow to a large size, unless it dies from stress or bad water conditions. if you feed the fish correctly it will grow and mostly outgrow a small tank.

emperior911
02/26/2006, 03:45 PM
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=786388
go there marrone

cjvolitan
02/26/2006, 03:57 PM
hey guys can't we all just get along
sheesh

marrone
02/26/2006, 04:12 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6832707#post6832707 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by emperior911
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=786388
go there marrone


emperior911

I think you need to read what you posted, funny but I saw a .75 hippo listed, guess that wasn't the smallest, 3", like you said could only be gotten. There wasn't anything in the post that I didn't say as you can see from growth rates a small Hippo will be fine in that tank for quite some time.

cjvolitan you right I think we need to just help jpa0741, who was looking for fish for his tank. The problem is people get carry away and think that you need huge tanks just to have a damsel.

TTU_Reefer
02/26/2006, 05:25 PM
ok im not saying that the 92 is to small for the hippo, becuase its not. but i have a hippo in my 72 bow(same length) and i really feel like she (6 inches) is cramped. Id get one but feed well and have lots of water space for her to swim. Good luck!

jpa0741
02/26/2006, 08:45 PM
Thanks, everyone. I had no idea this would start such a debate. How about putting the trigger in instead of the dwarf lion?

Thanks, Jeff