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S-B
03/01/2006, 02:25 PM
whats the best way to keep the ammonia down in my fry tank ?
I have perc clown fry 3 days old now .
LARRYTHEBIRD
03/01/2006, 03:23 PM
i think your suposed to do a 20% water change on day 3-7 with water from the parent tank. after day 7 it depends on your ph level
Kathy55g
03/01/2006, 03:57 PM
Also use live phytoplankton in the morning to tint the water green and cloudy. These microplants absorb ammonia and give off oxygen for the larvae. They also keep the rotifers well fed.

I would not recommend loading the tank up with phyto in the evening. Plants give off CO2 after lights out.
S-B
03/01/2006, 05:25 PM
ok thanks.
I read in the clownfishs book that the fry can survive with the
ammonia at 3ppm . is that true ? I find that hard to believe .
Kathy55g
03/01/2006, 05:31 PM
As it says in the clownfish book, it depends on the pH.

Welcome to the Fish Breeding Forum, S-B!
Dman
03/01/2006, 07:21 PM
It's been my experience that elevated ammonia levels, however temporary, lead to a host of problems later on.
Doing water changes can sometimes be risky if the pH's differ. I find it's easier to bind the ammonia to a product like cloram-X for the first week to ten days.
After they've meta'd they're much hardier.
S-B
03/02/2006, 08:33 AM
Thanks for the welcome Kathy55g

Thanks everyone for helping me out
jwreffner
03/02/2006, 08:16 PM
did someone mention lowering the pH?
FuEl
03/03/2006, 12:42 AM
Do a recirculating system linked to a good reliable protein skimmer and biological filter? Beats worrying about ammonia all the time.
LARRYTHEBIRD
03/03/2006, 02:20 PM
how well does amquel+ work at lowering ammonia? does anyone use this?
phender
03/03/2006, 02:36 PM
The live phytoplankton works wonders. I pretty much eliminates the need for water changes during the first few days.

I don't know where you are, but DT's phytoplankton worked great for me. I would add about 30 ml every morning. By the evening most of it was eaten by the rotifers, so it didn't increase CO2 at night.
Kathy55g
03/03/2006, 02:52 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6869881#post6869881 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FuEl
Do a recirculating system linked to a good reliable protein skimmer and biological filter? Beats worrying about ammonia all the time.

True, but you can't do this with the first few days after hatch. Too much current.
S-B
03/03/2006, 10:15 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6873394#post6873394 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LARRYTHEBIRD
how well does amquel+ work at lowering ammonia? does anyone use this?

I'd like to know too.
I've read amquel or prime can be used (day5-7).
Dman
03/03/2006, 10:49 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6873394#post6873394 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LARRYTHEBIRD
how well does amquel+ work at lowering ammonia? does anyone use this?

These products, as far as I understand it, do not actually lower ammonia. What they do is bind the ammonia to another ion rendering it less toxic. Or something to that effect. So don't buy into the whole "lowering or eliminating" ammonia schpiel it's still there.
I use CloramX for a couple of reasons, it's safe to use on finfish and shellfish destined for human consumption, which to me means it's probably way safer than comparable products and it's way cheaper than pretty much anything else out there.
LARRYTHEBIRD
03/04/2006, 12:51 AM
what is .08meg/l ammonia in ppm?
jwreffner
03/04/2006, 07:23 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6876910#post6876910 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dman
These products, as far as I understand it, do not actually lower ammonia. What they do is bind the ammonia to another ion rendering it less toxic.

Dman is correct. People do not make the distinction between Free Ammonia and Total Ammonia. The free ammonia is what is harmful to fish.