Anyone keep a 8in or more queen trigger with other fish

[JC1]

so who keeps a bigger queen with other fish

[TAZ316]

I keep a 6 in. one with a show size clown trigger. a black volitain and two more smaller fish.

[JC1]

and its ok with them

[TAZ316]

yes. they get along just fine.

[marrone]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6934600#post6934600 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TAZ316
yes. they get along just fine.

Not for long, it's just a matter of time.

[TAZ316]

as long as I keep everyone feed theres no reason for them too. they have plenty of swimming room and lots of hidding spots. and show no signs of aggression towards each other. the only time i've seen my clown trigger get voilent was when I baby sat my friends fish so he could move his tank and he had a clown trigger also and the two of them did not get along.

[juice me man]

how big is the tank TAZ316?

[TAZ316]

80g. I've had it running for 5 years. plan on up-grading next year but as for now my fish are doing great.

[juice me man]

Taz. how long has the queen trigger been in the tank? and have you any pics?

[NorthFace]

A juvenile Queen shouldnt be kept in an 80gal...let alone a 6"er, with tank tankmates.

That rediculous. It sounds like you have a very screwed up stocking list, for a tiny tank.

Queens, once they become sub-adults to adults, are not community fish in anything less than several thousand gallons. They're killers, plain and simple and will eventually destroy any other fish you want to risk having with them.

[Wolverine]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6935038#post6935038 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by marrone
Not for long, it's just a matter of time.

Exactly what I was thinking. There are two well-established lionfish killers in a tank that's too small for either of them (much less for both together).

The tank's been set up for 5 years, but how long have those fish been in there (if it's also 5 years, then the problems are easily seen in the stunted growth of the queen trigger, and probably the clown, if it's smaller).

Dave

[marrone]

Dave

He got a 6" Queen Trigger, show size Clown Trigger, say 8"-10",a Large Volitan Lion fish, Purple tang and to boot a Semi-Larvais Butterfly all in a 80gal bow tank for 5 years.

The guy is just a Troll.

Michael

[Wolverine]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6937648#post6937648 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by marrone
He got a 6" Queen Trigger, show size Clown Trigger, say 8"-10",a Large Volitan Lion fish, Purple tang and to boot a Semi-Larvais Butterfly all in a 80gal bow tank for 5 years.


I'm skeptical of that (meaning that all those fish have been in there for that long, not what you're saying).

From his posts in this thread, he only said that the tank has been setup for 5 years. To me that is often a round-about way of saying that the tank's been setup for that long, and these fish have successfully been in that setup tank for 3 months.

Dave

[marrone]

In another thread he said that he had these fish together for 4 years, specially the triggers and the lion fish.

[TAZ316]

I never said I had these fish for 4 years. I've had these fish since hurricane katrina wiped out my other fish. but before the hurricane I kept triggers and lions together. I hope to have my tank pictures up this week. marrone you dont need to call me names. I'm upgrading my tank next year.

[creepereefer]

That was my thought also Taz . maybe the tank is to small but why bash the guy if you dislike what he is doing PM him a tell him that or do not responed to the thread . People on R/C is starting to do that more and more to people and its not right JMO

[marrone]

Here the thread and your post:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=797475&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

"I've kept triggers and lions together in the same tank for 4 years with no problem. It's up to you, but if that is what you want to do triggers and lions go good together. "

Your where applying that you have both the Lion and Triggers together in the same 80gal bow tank for 4 years in your post.

[marrone]

creepereefer

I suggest you look at the other thread before you make a determination if some one is bashing some one else here. As you'll see from his post, in the other thread, he is now changing his tune on what he said before.

marrone

[TAZ316]

I'm sorry that it sounded that way marrone. but ever since I started up my tank I have kept lions and triggers together.

[danorth]

This pic is of 2/3 of the tank. Over a year in this set up with the other fish.



http://www.grimreefers.com/forums/uploads/post-30-1123561765.jpg

[creepereefer]

I can careless about what he said before the name calling is what I'm talking about its not needed just that simple

[I like Triggers]

hey marrone whats your personal experience with these. i notice you always have a lot to say on these subjects and am just wondering what you keep or have kept.

[moogoomoogoo]

Mine was about 8 inches when she turned mean. Left the 8 inch puffer alone, but she did chase the sargassum trigger and made it hide all the time. It was smaller about 3.5-4 inches. The queen now lives in her own personal tank.

[marrone]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6943684#post6943684 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by I like Triggers
hey marrone whats your personal experience with these. i notice you always have a lot to say on these subjects and am just wondering what you keep or have kept.

I've been keeping salt water fish for over 25 years and fresh for about 15 years more. I've either had or know people that have had almost any fish that you can get. I've also know and have known people that have owned LFS & wholesalers and have help them in the past. On top of that I've setup countless tanks and given advise to people on fish. I have had fish live over 20 years and currently have a # that are over 15 years, would of had some older one but I lost some fish when the women above me flood her apartment and the water and garbage drip down into my tanks and killed a good amount of my fish.

So I have a lot of experience in salt water fish.

Currently I had 4 tanks, which I down size from 6 a while ago as it was just to many and I want to take back my apartment. I have a 58gal reef, a 75gal Fowlr tank that was a reef back in the mid 80's and has been running since them. I also have 2 -260gal tanks side by side, I went with the two 6' tank instead of the one 12' tank as it will let me place more different fish in both tanks than if I had one large tank. When I moved, about 13 year ago I had some larger tanks that I left behind.

My current fish list is:

Angels:
Asfer
Maculosus
Chrysurus
Passer

Triggers:
Clown(Just got rid of it)
Black Durgen

Eels:
HW Dragon
Zebra
Snow Flake

Tangs:
Hippo
Blue Line
Orange Shoulder
Purple
Desjardini Sailfin
Lieutenant
Dussumieir
Sohal
Naso
Fuji Foxface
Red Spotted Rabbitface
Scribble Rabbitfish


Misc:
Red Breasted Wrasse
Marine Betta
Napoleon Wrasse
Digrammus Wrasse
Blue Spotted Grouper
Starkie Damsel
Sargocentron Spiniferum Squirrel fish
Sunrise Basslet
Cats Eye Basslet
Orchiard Dottback
Hugh Ugly Damsel

Over the years I have had countless other fish. I usually stay away from the fish that are very hard and have bad track records of making it.

[NaClH20NMYVEIN]

Thats bad to see 2 large angels and 2 large mean triggers is an 80. I almost purchased a baby queen for my 75g as it would be the only fish in there for a while until I got it a bigger tank when it got 5+ inches. But I could not live with the thought of having to get a 300+ gallon tank to keep it in with by itself. So I did the right thing and did not get it. Sometimes its more fun to want something than to actually have it!

[emperior911]

marrone i believe your overstocked... i read you have over, 20 large fish in 2 260 gallons.. wow

[marrone]

No not overstocked at all, and the fish are spread out over 4 tanks.

[MeskeetDog]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6946848#post6946848 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by marrone
Over the years I have had countless other fish. I usually stay away from the fish that are very hard and have bad track records of making it.

Can you elaborate on this list of difficult fish that you mentioned please?

Thanks

[saltyESQ]

I had a 9" queen trigger in my 210 for a long time. She was always the boss of the tank, but didn't attack anyone for quite a while. She even jumped out of the tank and took a 6' fall and laid on the floor for some time undiscovered and still managed to live.

Then one day she changed. She started charging the tank when putting your face near the tank, and took two huge bites out of my maroon clown (specifically, the top and side fins of the clown, which amazingly are in the process of growing back). Even after this attack, she got along fairly well with her tankmates. I could tell she needed to be in a different tank and sold her to another guy on RC. She's much happier now in his 300 gal and apparently getting bossed around by a crosshatch (not usually that aggressive).

She paced the entire length of my tank and kept mostly to the top of the tank. QTs are open water fish so that should give you an idea of the space needs. They are great fish, just need to watch them so you can get them a new home if and when the time comes.

[herpboyben]

the fish store i work at has one thats about 10 inches with a 5 foot zebra moray. it used to be with a snowflake, and zebra, 2 puffers, and a volitan (HUGE) but the trigger and zebra were moved to a new tank.