serial to wireless ethernet adapter

[Chrisrush]

Anyone know where to pick one up? I'm getting an AC Pro and I wanted to hook it up to my wireless LAN at my home.

Thanks,
Chris

[Carlos]

Go to www.gridconnect.com. They sell them but be willing to pay good money for them.

Carlos

[Chrisrush]

Thanks Carlos. That's what I was afraid of.

Anyone got a cheap one to sell?

Chris

[laurentm]

I'm building one out of a WRT54gl router ($65) with a serial transciever mod ($20).

I'll post a howto + firmware when I'm done.

[Chrisrush]

Sounds like a good option. Let me know where you picked up the router/transciever mod and how you assembled it.

Thanks,
Chris

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6958353#post6958353 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chrisrush
Sounds like a good option. Let me know where you picked up the router/transciever mod and how you assembled it.

Thanks,
Chris

The router has to be a WRT54g rev4 or WRT54gl. If you have any doubt on the WRT54g rev go for the WRT54gl (do not get the rev5 as it cannot be upgraded).

The instructions to add a serial port are at http://www.frontiernet.net/~beakmyn/WRT54GS/OpenWRT%20Kimset%20Server.htm (note: there's no need to get the AD233BK, the AD233AK will work just as well since we will not be using RTS/CTS).

I will compile a new firmware for it with RFC 2217 support. On the PC side, install HW Virtual Serial Port (http://www.hw-group.com/products/hw_vsp/index_en.html) and link it to the WRT ip port 7000 (I'll write some detailed instructions once I have the firmware done).

Total cost of the serial-wireless bridge for the aquacontroller should be around $85 + serial cable.

-L

[Chrisrush]

Interesting. I'm not sure I follow the firmware, but if you can get it done and give me the details, it would be greatly appreciated.

I'll pick up a wrt54gl router and install the virtual serial port on my computer and wait for the firmware details.

Chris

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6975145#post6975145 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chrisrush
I'll pick up a wrt54gl router and install the virtual serial port on my computer and wait for the firmware details.

I got it mostly working now but I still need to debug a couple of connection problems. I'm using msredird on the WRT54g and HW group's virtual serial port on WinXP. I also added a 512MB sD card for storage.

I can post pictures of the mods if you need help with the hardware.

-L

[flex13]

Yes post pics pls

Thanks

[laurentm]

Here are some pictures:

Make sure you get a WRT54GL (it's displayed in the lower left corner of the box). The WRT54GL can be upgraded with 3rd party firmware but the latest (rev5) WRT54G/GS can't.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/4285/5444wrt54g-5.jpg



Here's a shot of the RS232 transceiver (http://www.compsys1.com/workbench/On_top_of_the_Bench/Max233_Adapter/max233_adapter.html) on top of the SD-MMC breakout board (http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=204).
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/4285/5444wrt54g-4.jpg


Wiring of the SD-MMC pins on the GPIO pins (see this link (http://www.frontiernet.net/~beakmyn/WRT54GS/OpenWRT%20Kimset%20Server.htm) for details)
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/4285/5444wrt54g-3.jpg


Close-up of the break-out boards (I used strong double sided tape)
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/4285/5444wrt54g-2.jpg


This is what it looks like on the outside
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/4285/5444wrt54g-1.jpg



I'm working on the firmware right now. First, I just want to enable the RFC 2217 protocol for the Virtual Serial Port. Next, I'll add a telnet server to emulate the AC and store the data on the SD card. I'll also add a web/wap server to display and change the AC parameter.

-L

[flex13]

Looks awsome.

[laurentm]

Firmware's done. It works beautifully!

List of parts:

Here is the list of parts I used for the serial modification. You can get them anywhere you want but I provided a link to illustrate what I used.

A Maxim MAX232 Level converter. I used the A232DBCT3V (http://www.compsys1.com/workbench/On_top_of_the_Bench/Max233_Adapter/max233_adapter.html) kit (with CTS/RTS lines) because I wanted to keep the second set of transceivers (cts/rts) for future use. Any of those kit will do for this single serial modification: AD233AK (http://www.compsys1.com/workbench/On_top_of_the_Bench/Max233_Adapter/max233_adapter.html), AD233BK (http://www.compsys1.com/workbench/On_top_of_the_Bench/Max233_Adapter/max233_adapter.html), A232DBH3v (http://www.compsys1.com/workbench/On_top_of_the_Bench/Max233_Adapter/max233_adapter.html) or A232DBCT3v (http://www.compsys1.com/workbench/On_top_of_the_Bench/Max233_Adapter/max233_adapter.html)
A 10pin shrouded male header (http://www.futurlec.com/Connectors/IDCMH10.shtml)
A 10pin IDC socket connector (http://www.futurlec.com/Connectors/IDCC10.shtml)
A 10pin flat ribbon cable (http://www.futurlec.com/Cable.shtml)
A DB9 male connector (http://www.futurlec.com/Connectors/DSUBSCM9.shtml)


Hardware:

Open the WRT54GL. Here a link to a howto (http://www.rwhitby.net/wrt54gs/serial.html).

Turn the board so that the antenna connectors are facing you and the LEDs are away from you (the board looks like a "J"). The serial connector is labeled JP2 and is the second from the top on the left. Pin 1 of the connector is the top left pin on the board (the square one).

Solder the 10pin male header and assemble the 10 IDC socket and cable. Make sure that the red wire is assigned to pin 1 (top most).

At the other end of the cable, join wires 1&2 and also join 9&10 (wire 1 is the red wire assigned to pin 1, 2 is next to 1, 3 next to 2 and so on). Discard wires 4,6,7&8. Solder wires 1&2 to the "+" pin on the RS232 break-out card and 9&10 to "-". Solder wire 3 to TTL TX and wire 5 to TTL RX on the PCB.

On the DB9, connect 4&6 together and also connect 7&8 together (we are not dealing with DTR/DSR and CTS/RTS). If you got the board wired for a DB9 female, we need to swap 2&3, so connect the DB9 male pin 2 to the location for pin 3 on the board, and connect DB9M pin 3 to the location for pin 2 (hope this is not too confusing). Connect pin 5 to pin 5, this one's easy.

You can also follow the instructions here (http://www.frontiernet.net/~beakmyn/WRT54GS/OpenWRT%20Kimset%20Server.htm).

You're done!

Software:

Download the modified WRT54GL firmware with RFC2217 support. Can anyone host the file, it's 3MB? This firmware adds support for the RFC 2217 Telnet Com Port Control Option (basically tunnels a RS232 connection over telnet). I used the HyperWRT base with Tofu's extras (http://www.polarcloud.com/tofu) and added ser2net (http://ser2net.sourceforge.net).

Upgrade the stock firmware with the modified one. After it's done, press and hold the reset button (in the back) for about 10s or more so that the NVRAM is cleared. Now, we're going to configure the router as a Wireless ethernet bridge. Other configurations would also work such as WDS or access point if it is your main router. Visit the linksysinfo.org forums for the HyperWRT details.

Connect the router with a cable (not wireless) to a computer with a static IP of 192.168.1.2 (I'm assuming your LAN is 192.168.1.0 and the gateway is 192.168.1.1)

In the Setup Tab:
{Basic Setup}
- Internet Connection Type: Disabled
- Router Name: AQUABRIDGE
- Local IP Address: 192.168.1.30
- LAN Gateway: 192.168.1.1
- LAN DNS: 192.168.1.1
-DHCP Server: Disable
(Save Settings)

{Advanced Routing}
- Operating Mode: Router
(Save Settings)

In the Wireless Tab:
{Basic Wireless Mode}
- Wireless Mode: Wireless Ethernet Bridge
- (fill to match your wireless network)
(Save Settings)

{Wireless Security}:
- (fill to match your wireless network)
(Save Settings)

{Advanced Wireless Settings}:
- SecureEasySetup: Disable
(Save Settings)

In the Security Tab:
{Firewall}
- Firewall: Disable
(Save Settings)

In the Administration Tab:
{Management}:
- RFC 2217: Enable
(Save Settings)


Now disconnect the network cable from the router and try to ping it over the wireless network at 192.168.1.30. Let's say it works! Connect the DB9M on the router to the serial MINIDIN8 on the AC (buy a cable from Neptune Systems or build one). On your computer 'telnet 192.168.1.30 7000'. You should get the AC controller prompt.

If you want to use AquaNotes, download HW's Virtual serial port (http://www.hw-group.com/products/hw_vsp/index_en.html) and configure it to 192.168.1.30 port 7000. Now configure AquaNotes to use the Virtual Com Port (for example COM5). Check the status and download the logs, you should now have a wireless RS232 connection.

Enjoy!

[JohnLe712]

Would this work on ACII?

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7057731#post7057731 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JohnLe712
Would this work on ACII?

It works with any RS232 enabled device. If you currently use a serial cable to connect your ACII to your computer then it should work similarly with this wireless serial-ethernet bridge and a virtual serial port driver.

[®eefer]

You can download the firmware from my site here (http://216.73.117.254/RC/wrt54gl_rfc2217.zip)
:D

[xinumaster]

wow. this is cool. Got to go now to FRY's electronics and buy those hardware.

[xinumaster]

Hi laurentm, I notice you're from SJ, are all those components you listed available at R&D Electronics in Milpitas?

perry

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7075776#post7075776 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xinumaster
Hi laurentm, I notice you're from SJ, are all those components you listed available at R&D Electronics in Milpitas?

perry

I just called them and they do not carry Maxim chips. They suggested calling Maxim directly to get a list of local distributors.
You might be able to find the other parts (the DB9M, 10p IDC connectors and cables) there or at Fry's.

[Giovanni]

laurentm,

You seem to be very good at the network thing. My question is this. I just got a ACIII. I want it wireless but do not want to buy a bridge. I have an old Microsoft wireless router and a motorola router. I have one for the internet and am using the other for the ACIII. Is there a way to bridge them so I do not have to flip back and forth between wireless networks? Without buying any more Equipment, I mean.

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7086405#post7086405 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ICURN

Sent you a PM

[Giovanni]

Laurentm,

Untill I can figure this out, I have installed a PC wireless card so I have one on each network. :) Thanks again.

[flex13]

I want to thank Laurentm for this awesome post. He saved me allot of money.

I successfully got it working following laurentm instructions. He provided just a little help. I will post pics tomorrow. I am sick so I am heading back to bed. :(


PS
Total price for the project
$15 for parts
$69 for GL router.

Compared too serial to wireless adapters that go for at least 170 dollars.

[SERVO]

See what you started Chris!!!!:D


You guys are unbelievable! I've never done anything like this before but I think that I am going to try this! Thanks for all the resources!

[Chrisrush]

Nice huh? I got the router this last weekend and I'm waiting on my parts. I couldn't find them at Frys so I had to order them online.

Ryan, what model of Aquacontroller do you have?

Chris

[SERVO]

I bought the AC III. I feel like such a dolt! Right now I am using it as a temperature monitor! Pathetic! I don't have the right accessories to hook it up! When I bought it, I wasn't educated on how to set it up and I am still trying to figure it out! LMK when you have yours up and running! I'm going to beg you to help me get mine together!:)

[Chrisrush]

Ryan, since you have a III, you don't need the serial to wireless adapter. Your III has an ethernet port which is a very nice feature. If you wanted to go wirelessly, you would still need to buy a router but you won't have to mod it like the rest of us. This mod is for the Jrs.-II which have serial ports for remote access.

I need to make a trip out to your place anyways to see that tank, and when I do, we can work on setting up the III.

[®eefer]

Download the firmware:here (http://216.73.117.254/RC/wrt54gl_rfc2217.zip)
Download the source:here (http://216.73.117.254/RC/WRT54GL_4.30.2_tofu_rfc2217_v0.1.diff.gz)

[flex13]

Here are the pictures like I promised.

First pic is the cut out for the serial - i used a dremel.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/76853IMG_2342.JPG

Next pics comes from laurentm (this where he helped me)
he got me the ribbon connection modified. Cost very cheap.
(This pictures was taken by laurentm)
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/4304/5444cable-3.jpg

Next - Serial put in
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/76853IMG_2346-med.JPG

Next - my super welding skills - none what so ever. To the right of two rows of holes. I welded the 10 Pin Shrouded Male Headers.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/76853IMG_2345.JPG

Next - all together
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/76853IMG_2348.JPG

Next - Temp Connection to ACjr just to test
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/76853IMG_2349.JPG

Last - Laptop with remote connection working -Fast too
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/76853IMG_2351-med.JPG

Now i left out all the steps provided in the first page by laurentm
You need to flash the router and put in the settings. You also need in install the virtual serial port and settings.

It was that simple.

Thank you very much laurentm you saved me easly 100 dollars.

[Chrisrush]

Looks great. I can't wait till my parts come in so that I can install mine.

Chris

[laurentm]

For those of you who are going to build the transceiver cable from scratch (not using the compsys Max232/233 kits), here's the schematic for the adapter. You can get the max3232, caps, cable and connectors, online, from futurlec.com

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/4285/5444serial.jpg

BOM:
1x MAX3232CSE (MAX3232 RS232 Transceiver)
5x C0001UTSMD (0.1uF 35V SMD Tantalum Capacitors)
1x IDCC10 (10 Contact IDC Socket Connector)
1x IDCMH10 (10 Pin Shrouded Male Headers)
1x DSUBIDCM9 (D-Sub 9 Contact Male IDC Ribbon Conn.)
1x GRCABLE10 (Grey Ribbon Cable - 10 core)

[flex13]

man this rocks. Yesterday i got my ACjr to send me emails threw aquanotes (full version) all done wireless.
The best part, my job requires me to carry a blackberry (i used to hate it but now its awsome) i will know right away if temp or Ph goes out of range

Todays project will be to remote from work and control tank. lol :)

[flex13]

COOLTANK

Thanks for the Download links

[Chrisrush]

Anyone know where I can find the parts for this locally? I tried Fry's but they didn't have any 10 pin connectors. I've got them on order from the website that Laurentm provided, but I believe that they are coming from overseas and I wanted to get this started this weekend.

Thanks,
Chris

[uscgbeachbum]

I have a quick question. Can you the same wireless router above for internet connection as well? I just got cable modem and have to go wireless due to cable outlets. I'd love to have a 2 in 1 router.

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7169470#post7169470 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by uscgbeachbum
I have a quick question. Can you the same wireless router above for internet connection as well? I just got cable modem and have to go wireless due to cable outlets. I'd love to have a 2 in 1 router.

You have a cable outlet next to the fish tank right?

So, yes, you can configure the modified WRT as a wireless access point and a gateway to your cable internet connection.

Upgrade the firmware, but do not follow the instructions I posted for the WRT configuration (those are to configure it as an ethernet wireless bridge). Follow the Linksys instructions to configure it as an internet wireless access point, then enable the RFC2217 function in the Administration tab.

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7168860#post7168860 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chrisrush
Anyone know where I can find the parts for this locally? I tried Fry's but they didn't have any 10 pin connectors. I've got them on order from the website that Laurentm provided, but I believe that they are coming from overseas and I wanted to get this started this weekend.

Thanks,
Chris

You could temporarily solder it directly to the board :). You only need 4 wires (Vcc, GND, RxD and TxD).

[®eefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7168819#post7168819 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by flex13
COOLTANK

Thanks for the Download links

Hey no problem...Now if my ACjr would just hurry up and arrive so I can do the mod myself!!

[uscgbeachbum]

Sweet. I'm going to order me one of these right now. Mind if I ask you (laurentm) a few questions if I need help since its different than the posted instructions/diagrams?

[Chrisrush]

laurentm,
I'm not sure that I follow you, but I think that my buddy might be able to help me out. I think that my level converter is due today, so hopefully I can find the other 10 pin parts.

USC, I'm going to do the same thing that you are going to do, please post your findings.

Thanks,
Chris

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7176505#post7176505 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by uscgbeachbum
Sweet. I'm going to order me one of these right now. Mind if I ask you (laurentm) a few questions if I need help since its different than the posted instructions/diagrams?
No problem. You can PM me or post in this thread.

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7176564#post7176564 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chrisrush
laurentm,
I'm not sure that I follow you, but I think that my buddy might be able to help me out. I think that my level converter is due today, so hopefully I can find the other 10 pin parts.


I meant that, if you cannot locate the 2 idc 10pin connectors, you can solder the 4 wires between the board and the level converter directly to the board. Check this schematic (http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/4285/5444serial.jpg ) for pin assignment (pin 1 of the IDC10 is the square one on the board, look at it component side).

[Chrisrush]

Anyone interested in buying the parts off me, I am going to run a serial line instead of doing it wirelessly. I have posted a thread in the for sale forum. Pm if you are interested. $25 shipped.

Chris

[bosworth]

If I were to buy an AquaController Jr. with a serial port, could I just use a Serial to Ethernet cable and configure a wireless router as described above?

[®eefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7264984#post7264984 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bosworth
If I were to buy an AquaController Jr. with a serial port, could I just use a Serial to Ethernet cable and configure a wireless router as described above?

Most likely not, as the device will need drivers, in which case you'll need a cpu, in which case you'd have no need for the router anymore.

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7264984#post7264984 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bosworth
If I were to buy an AquaController Jr. with a serial port, could I just use a Serial to Ethernet cable and configure a wireless router as described above?

If the Serial to Ethernet adapter cable you are talking about is similar to this device (http://www.industrialethernet.com/net232-dte.html), then yes, you could configure an unmodified WRT54GL as an ethernet wireless bridge to link the adapter to your wireless network.

[jnarowe]

Just a quick note to you guys using the ACIII Pro:

The instructions tell you to use a bridge and they cost quite a bit but I found that the Linsys wireless gaming adapter WGA54G works fine too. It costs about 1/2 what the bridge costs and worked right out of the box, no mods.

HTH.

[bosworth]

If the Serial to Ethernet adapter cable you are talking about is similar to this device, then yes, you could configure an unmodified WRT54GL as an ethernet wireless bridge to link the adapter to your wireless network.


laurentm
I ordered the serial to ethernet adapter you recommended and an ACjr. What do I need to configure between this cable the Jr and the router?

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7436178#post7436178 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bosworth
I ordered the serial to ethernet adapter you recommended and an ACjr. What do I need to configure between this cable the Jr and the router?

Cooltank posted a link to the custom firmware here (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=799900&perpage=25&pagenumber=2#post7164593). Install this custom firmware on the modified router then follow the configuration instructions in this post (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=799900&perpage=25&pagenumber=1#post7016184).

[Aquaduck]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7266365#post7266365 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by laurentm
If the Serial to Ethernet adapter cable you are talking about is similar to this device (http://www.industrialethernet.com/net232-dte.html), then yes, you could configure an unmodified WRT54GL as an ethernet wireless bridge to link the adapter to your wireless network.

laurentm, I am wondering if you could provide a bit of assistance. I have a wireless G network using the Linksys WRT54G as the main router for my houshold wireless network and internet connection. It is located in a closet too far away to connect to my tank. So I bought a Linksys BEFW11 (ver4) wireless B broadband router (for $20 still sealed in the box). I have upgraded the firmware with the latest Linksys version and tried configuring it as a wireless bridge to connect my ACIII wirelessly to my network without success. I tried following your steps to configure it for the WRT54G but I realize there are differences in the firmware you are using.

I can access the Aquacontroller when I plug my laptop into the router at ip 192.168.1.50 but cannot access it across the wireless link.
The secondary wireless router (the BEFW11) the one I want to use as a bridge is set to local area IP 192.168.1.30 with DHCP off. I have it set to "router" mode as well.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am a networking moron.

Do I have to set up static routing to get the two routers talking to each other?

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7491649#post7491649 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Aquaduck
laurentm, I am wondering if you could provide a bit of assistance. I have a wireless G network using the Linksys WRT54G as the main router for my houshold wireless network and internet connection. It is located in a closet too far away to connect to my tank. So I bought a Linksys BEFW11 (ver4) wireless B broadband router (for $20 still sealed in the box). I have upgraded the firmware with the latest Linksys version and tried configuring it as a wireless bridge to connect my ACIII wirelessly to my network without success. I tried following your steps to configure it for the WRT54G but I realize there are differences in the firmware you are using.

I can access the Aquacontroller when I plug my laptop into the router at ip 192.168.1.50 but cannot access it across the wireless link.
The secondary wireless router (the BEFW11) the one I want to use as a bridge is set to local area IP 192.168.1.30 with DHCP off. I have it set to "router" mode as well.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am a networking moron.

Do I have to set up static routing to get the two routers talking to each other?

I don't think the BEFW11 can be configured as a client. The only way I can think of to link those routers would be to configure the BEFW11 as the main access point and have the WRT54G connect to the wireless network as an ethernet wireless bridge in 802.11b mode only (after upgrading the firmware). You'll lose the 54g network but it should work.

Hope this helps.

[Aquaduck]

You're right you can't configure it to act as a client. I thought I might be able to do it but no dice. For $20 I thought I'd give it a shot.

I will try what you suggested and make the BEFW11 the gateway router and use the WRT54GS as a client. I don't use my network for anything more than connecting to the internet, no large file transfers or media streaming. If in the future I need the G speeds I can always reconfigure the network and add a WGA54G gaming adapter to connect the ACIII to the network.

Crap! I just remembered you said the WRT54GS will not run the hacked firmware. So I guess I'm SOL.

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7496748#post7496748 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Aquaduck
You're right you can't configure it to act as a client. I thought I might be able to do it but no dice. For $20 I thought I'd give it a shot.

I will try what you suggested and make the BEFW11 the gateway router and use the WRT54GS as a client. I don't use my network for anything more than connecting to the internet, no large file transfers or media streaming. If in the future I need the G speeds I can always reconfigure the network and add a WGA54G gaming adapter to connect the ACIII to the network.

Crap! I just remembered you said the WRT54GS will not run the hacked firmware. So I guess I'm SOL.

You can upgrade the WRT54GS (if rev is <= 4) with the firmware from http://www.thibor.co.uk/ . It has the WET mode support which is what you need.

[Aquaduck]

Mine is Rev4. I'll give that firmware a try. Thank-you!

[Aquaduck]

After messing with this network for 2 days straight I am at my wits end and my wife is mad as hell because I kept interrupting the network (she uses it to log into work).

Anyway, I flashed the WRT54GS Ver4 with the Thibor firmware code but I am unable to get the two routers to communicate with each other. All network security settings are identical for both. I made sure of that 10 or 20 times! Checked IP addresses, tried client mode, WET mode, DHCP on/off nothing worked. I can only access the ACIII through a hardwire connection to the router that the ACIII is plugged into. I give up. Looks like Jinxsys wants me to hand over my money for the real mccoy like a WET54G. :confused:

[jnarowe]

As I posted before, if you are just trying to tie your ACIII Pro into a wireless network, you can use a WGA54G at about half the cost of the WET54G. It's a gaming adapter like what you would use for an XBox. Mine worked for my ACIII Pro right out of the box, no problems. It was easier to set up than my WET54G.

Setting this stuff up is indeed mind-bending but the basic rule I learned is to make sure that you assign your wireless adapter a different IP address than what it came with because you probably are already using that address for something else. I just set mine to 192.168.1.49. HTH!! :D

[Aquaduck]

Where I live the WGA54G is $99 and the WET54G is $108. Not much difference so I'd rather get the extra flexibilty with the WET54G.

I hear you about IP addresses. I had then set up at 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.30 no go. I tried creating a second network with the second router at 192.168.2.1 still wouldn't connect to the gateway router.

[jnarowe]

I couldn't buy the WET locally and online it was something like $160 and the WGA is about $85 locally. They put them on sale occassionally too like at Best Buy. I got my first one for $65 with a rebate.

My first WGA was for my XBox. Then I got a WET at Neptune's recommendation, only it was a dud, so I had to send it back. In the meantime I wanted to use my system so I picked up a second WGA and it worked fine.

Try staying in the 192.168.1.40-49 range. I think I read somewhere that there were certain parameters that had to be followed in relation to the network addresses...I can't remember though what it was. Also try running it without security settings. I remember a lot of crap dealing with that and I think ultimately Linksys and I figured out that we had to strip out the encryption to get it to work. Sorry my memory is so bad! But I do remember that the WGA worked right out of the box with only a change to its address!

[Aquaduck]

I guess I'll have to wait until they go on sale then.

I have given up on this hack job. I just don't have what it takes to troubleshoot networking issues. Somebody has to walk me through it or I'm lost. There are subtle differences between the WRT54G hacked firmware and the WRT54GS that I laurentm's instructions don't work. One website guide says to do it one-way and another guide says to do it another way.

[jnarowe]

Just call Linksys and make them walk you through it. I know it's a total hassle but they will stay on the line with you until it is fixed. The real hell is waiting on hold!

[Aquaduck]

I am using the Thibor Linksys firmware to allow the router to be used as a bridge. Linksys won't provide support for that.

[jnarowe]

Got it. I usually just fib a little when I need their help. :lol:

[Lunchbucket]

ok i've been wanting to hook up my ACII to my computer but i would need 50+ft of cable and can't hid all of it. been brainstorming on how to do this and guess this is an option. i was going to upgrade to the ACIII and connect w/ a game port but this could save me a TON!

is this (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?parentPage=search&summary=summary&cp=&accessories=accessories&productId=2104209&kw=linksys+router&techSpecs=techSpecs&currentTab=custRatings&custRatings=custRatings&features=features&origkw=Linksys+router&support=support&tab=summary) the right router? i guess i can stop into the store.

i just skimmed this thread but i'm confused on where i can find that searial adapter that has the pins on it for plugging into the router.

gotta jet hope to read and learn more later
thanks
Lunchbucket

[jnarowe]

LB: That is one end of the system that you connect to your PC with Aquanotes on it. That can be a CAT cable or wireless. At the AC III you need a bridge. Neptune recommends a wireless bridge but I found that the gaming adapter Linksys WGA54G works just as well out-of-the-box for about half the cost. I have used both with identical results.

[Lunchbucket]

so that isnj't the right router to hack up and use at the AC end??? install the serial end on??

you can use just a wireless game port on a ACII??? need a serial to ethernet adapter though??

Lunchbucket

[jnarowe]

I am really not sure about the ACII and what its capabilities and connections are. It sounded like you were going to upgrade to an ACIII Pro, which is what I have. I got confused your post but now realize what the thread title is...sorry about that. My bad! :(

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8017203#post8017203 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lunchbucket

is this (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?parentPage=search&summary=summary&cp=&accessories=accessories&productId=2104209&kw=linksys+router&techSpecs=techSpecs&currentTab=custRatings&custRatings=custRatings&features=features&origkw=Linksys+router&support=support&tab=summary) the right router?

It could be if it is not a rev 5. The one you need is a WRT54G v4 or WRT54GL. Check this thread (http://www.linksysinfo.org/portal/forums/showthread.php?t=40167) to find out the revision from the serial number.

This is what you need to connect your ACII wirelessly if you already have a wireless infrastructure. If you do not have a wireless network, you'll need 2 of those.

[Lunchbucket]

jnarowe - no problem...i was confused from you post too

laurentm - i have a wireless Linksys BEFWIIS4 Wireless B Broadband router...that should work correct??

i'll have to check radioshack and see if they are in the stores and have the G version. otherwise how would i tell from the website?? i guess they could be the GL or the G...would have to call them to be sure...then it still is a guessing game

Lunchbucket

[laurentm]

how would i tell from the website?? i guess they could be the GL or the G...would have to call them to be sure...then it still is a guessing game

The GL should be labeled WRT54GL and costs about $10 more. Try this link (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833124190).

[®eefer]

Can you set a WPA or WEP on the main router and still allow the Bridge to connect? It seems if I apply security the bridge will not connect. I mirror the security settings on the bridge, but I think those settings are for it's broadcast.
Any input?

[laurentm]

Can you set a WPA or WEP on the main router and still allow the Bridge to connect? It seems if I apply security the bridge will not connect. I mirror the security settings on the bridge, but I think those settings are for it's broadcast.
Any input?

I'm using WEP128 on mine and everything seems to be fine.

[Lunchbucket]

hmm...still debating if i should just upgrade to a ACIII or get the router and mess w/ it and try my luck at being non-programing/net savey

Lunchbucket

[®eefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8023335#post8023335 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lunchbucket
hmm...still debating if i should just upgrade to a ACIII or get the router and mess w/ it and try my luck at being non-programing/net savey

Lunchbucket

Really there is no programming involved. Just minor soldering then make the settings on your router. The biggest PITA for me was figuring out where to solder things since I used a WRT54G and the board is competely different than the GL

[®eefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8023048#post8023048 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by laurentm
I'm using WEP128 on mine and everything seems to be fine.

So you just set "Wireless Security" with the same settings on both routers? (As there is no client configuration for the bridge)

[®eefer]

Nevermind...just needed to power off the bridge then it matched up.

[wizsmaster]

sweet. need to keep this one bookmarked

[Lunchbucket]

Ok I need to do this someday. Not sure if I can still find that specific model though

Lunchbucket

[laurentm]

You can get it from amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Cisco-WRT54GL-Wireless-G-Broadband-Compatible/dp/B000BTL0OA), newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124190) or ZipZoomfly (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=253212).

[Lunchbucket]

laurentm - Thanks!

Lunchbucket

[Lunchbucket]

Hmm.. I just fell off this thread I guess. Forgot that this was out there. I have an offer from someone in this thread that is getting rid of their router so that might be an option! Just will need some help getting it all set up to work w/ my wireless router when I get it

Lunchbucket

[Lunchbucket]

I bought someones used router that was set up and running like this thead showed.

I'll have to reread everything to figure out what settings to change

I'm sure I'll have questions
Lunchbucket

[laurentm]

First make sure the wireless interface is configured correctly and that you can ping it from your network. Next, with the RFC2217 running and the AC connected, telnet to it at the RFC port. You should get the AC prompt. Last, install the Virtual Serial driver on Windows and get AquaNotes to link to it.

[flex13]

Laurentm how are you doing?

Dude, I got rid of my tank and sold everything 8 months ago except the router and ACjr. Luckily I was still subscribed to this thread and saw that Lunchbucket needed a router. I guess it was his lucky day.

Give him a hand to set it up. I totally forgot the whole setup.

If you are wandering why I got rid of the tank here is the short version of the story. I was cleaning the tank and scraped my knuckle against the frogspawn. I got a bad allergic reaction. I had to spend 3 days in the hospital pumping antibiotic on an IV to fix me. Then 4 more days taking antibiotics at home. I have kids to worry about, so I sold the tank ƒ¼ dude my hand looked like a punched a wall and puss coming out of the knuckle that hit the frogspawn.
Anyways thanks for the help back then it really works sweet.

Laters
FLEX

[Opus123]

It was his lucky day since I started a thread here a few days back asking if anyone had a modified router they wanted to sell or if they knew someone that sold modifed routers. All I can find are people that do the memory card mod.

[Lunchbucket]

laurentm - umm...yeah those directions sound like a foreign language. I think I understand some of it but I'll have to reread the first couple pages...I'm not a network/programing person...so this might take some reading and rereading

Lunchbucket

[cstires]

Can someone post screen shots of how Aquanotes should be setup?

[jnarowe]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10468959#post10468959 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lunchbucket
laurentm - umm...yeah those directions sound like a foreign language. I think I understand some of it but I'll have to reread the first couple pages...I'm not a network/programing person...so this might take some reading and rereading

Lunchbucket

I was going to say something but thought maybe I was the only one who didn't understand it. :)

It's really not that hard to set up AquaNotes and router stuff, and Curt will talk you through it all if you have a problem. I needed help and got plenty.

[Lunchbucket]

Hey I got it in the mail!! Yippie. I'm off to hook it up. Wish me luck...hope I can get it to work. anyone want to help via yahoo messenger or hotmail messenger if I need help?

Lunchbucket

[Lunchbucket]

Yep LOST....umm...I hooked it up but I'm lost. I currently have a wireless router that is not hooked up to a computer (being fixed) and I don't know if this will work to hook it directly to the laptop to program it. Also, I'm lost on how to do that. Anyone? messenger for live help?

This router was hooked up and running as described so I'm not sure what I have to do different to get it going at my place

Sorry for the inconvienience guys

[laurentm]

Ok, I'll try to come up with some instructions, hang on.


LunchBucket: PM me your IM info.

[laurentm]

I won't be able to get to it before tonight but here's some troubleshooting you can try in the meantime.

I'm assuming you configured the wireless part and that you can ping the serial modded router at AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD.

First make sure the RFC 2217 support is enabled in the Administration->Management page. The device port should be 7000 and the control port 2000.

Try to telnet to the control port:

C:\> telnet AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD 2000
-> help
exit - leave the program
...
...
-> exit
C:\>

If that works, connect the AC to the router with your serial cable and try to telnet to the device port:

C:\> telnet AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD 7000

AquaController> v
Copyright 1996-2006 - Neptune Systems - Rev 3.20J - CC06
xxx xxx xxxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
AquaController>

Let me know if you can get this to work.

[cstires]

I'm able to telnet to the control port, however I can't telnet to the device port. My cmd screen just has a flashing cursor and locks up.

Any ideas?

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10510675#post10510675 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cstires
I'm able to telnet to the control port, however I can't telnet to the device port. My cmd screen just has a flashing cursor and locks up.

Any ideas?

Two things could be wrong. The serial cable or the serial mod.

Unplug the serial cable from the router and telnet to the device port (7000). When you type, you should not see anything on the screen, that's normal.

Now, on the serial (DB9) connector on the router, short pin 2 and pin 3 and then type in the telnet session, you should see what you type echoed on the screen.

If this works, then your cable is bad. If it does not work, your serial mod is bad or is using the wrong serial port.

[cstires]

I took the router apart suspecting the mod was an issue and I found the following:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r243/cstires/DSC02707.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r243/cstires/DSC02708.jpg

This was an already modified router that I purchased used, so don't make fun of the work because it's not mine!!! :)

Anyway, it looks like there is a disconnected wire. I also noticed that this mod and router board look a lot different than the ones that have been posted.

What do I need to redo this and get this baby up and running?

Thanks for your help!

[laurentm]

Can you post close-up pictures of the disconnected wire?

[cstires]

Unfortunately that's as close as I can get with my camera. I can ge a better camera tomorrow and post them.

Looking at the pictures, it's the wire coming from the router, and to the far right of the ribbon.

[Lunchbucket]

laurentm - THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE HELP

Just need to get our desktop back from being fixed and set it up on there so that I can have it run 24/7

Lunchbucket

[Ball]

I have an AC jr.

Instead of a wireless router, I have a serial to ethernet converter. I then have the ethernet cabel running to a router that is hokked up to my PC. I might be having a similar situation to what others are having, but Im not sure.

I can log into the serial to ethernet adapter just fine. However, I cant "see" the Ac jr. So my question is how do I "see" the AC jr when I have it hooked up via serial cable to ethernet to router? Im guessing there is some setting in the router I need? Does my non wireless router need to be setup like the wireless routers explained in this thread?

Im missing something. I appreciate your help.

[BigAl2007]

big BUMP!!

Allen :)

[epicfish]

Heh. Anyone else have a modified router they'd like to sell? ;)

[pelochas]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10531500#post10531500 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ball
I have an AC jr.

Instead of a wireless router, I have a serial to ethernet converter. I then have the ethernet cabel running to a router that is hokked up to my PC. I might be having a similar situation to what others are having, but Im not sure.

I can log into the serial to ethernet adapter just fine. However, I cant "see" the Ac jr. So my question is how do I "see" the AC jr when I have it hooked up via serial cable to ethernet to router? Im guessing there is some setting in the router I need? Does my non wireless router need to be setup like the wireless routers explained in this thread?

Im missing something. I appreciate your help.

i also have this type of device. havent worked on it but gonna try it tonite.

maybe you missed the part about running the software to trick the aquanotes about the ip address as a comport

[pelochas]

this is the device i have, wondering what to add to make this wireless?
its a UDS 100 Serial to 10/100M Ethernet Device Server

http://www.gridconnect.com./uds100.html

[pelochas]

well i worked on it all night and could not get it to connect

this is the device i have
http://www.lantronix.com/device-networking/external-device-servers/uds1100.html

then i had to download and run the ip to comport program
Using COM Port Redirector with CoBox, UDS, SDS, WiBox, WiPort, XPort and Xpress

this is where i almost gave up. then i selected on the com settings to RAW DATA and YESSSSSSSSSS!

now moving on with wireless if its possible?

[pelochas]

clp,

would a linksys Wireless-G Game Adapter work to that lantronix uds1100 i have or it will need drivers.

Works without drivers on PlayStation®2, Xbox™, and GameCube

[clp]

Some game adapters are not visible or are removed from wireless network if they don't receive packets from the Ethernet interface. If the lantronix box sends out periodic packets, then it will keep the wireless interface of the game adapter alive. If so, have the game adapter in the path should be transparent.

Curt

[pelochas]

now i am no IT know it all.
i got this d-link wireless gaming adapter dwl-g820. linky http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=333

i did the setup. i am able to view it and connect to it from my wireless router. ip address i am temp using is 192.168.1.76. now my lantronix serial to ethernet is set to 192.168.1.75.
when the lantronix is on the cat5 cable to my wireless router, i can connect aquanotes with the redirector program that makes 192.168.1.75 into comport 3. when i connect the lantronix cat5 cable directly to the wireless g adapter. i get no ping response to .75.

so how is .76 supposed to pass thru or bridge or whatever to get to .75??? is there supposed to be another small router there in between .76. and .75?

this is experimental and fun for me. i think im already moving towards running cat5 from the tank to the router. or buying a serial to wireless ethernet lantronix box.

[pelochas]

ok
i just did something, i change the settings on the dlink wireless g adapter, i check 'alway on' on the telnet.
now for some reason i cannot get to .76 where the dlink game adapter is. but NOW i can get to .75 to my lantronix.
and that means after i open aquanotes i can now connect to it wireless thru the wireless game adapter thru the lantronix serial to ethernet to the ACjr.
everything is working wireless and its awesome now. maybe its time to go full version on the aquanotes?

i just have to figure out if the the game adapter is really on .75 or .76 ? i know the lantronix is on .75 can two items be on the same ip without conflict or is some sort of piggyback or bridge?

[pelochas]

ok last post im going to sleep cause its already 1:10am
now i am able to get to .76 which is the html setup page of the wireless game adapter.
also still get to .75 which is the lantronix html setup page
and still can connect and disconnect and reconnect without problems to aquanotes with comport 3 via redirector of 192.168.1.75:10001

good nite

[waverz]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10510867#post10510867 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by laurentm
Two things could be wrong. The serial cable or the serial mod.

Unplug the serial cable from the router and telnet to the device port (7000). When you type, you should not see anything on the screen, that's normal.

Now, on the serial (DB9) connector on the router, short pin 2 and pin 3 and then type in the telnet session, you should see what you type echoed on the screen.

If this works, then your cable is bad. If it does not work, your serial mod is bad or is using the wrong serial port.

I just did this mod using an ad233bk and am having the same problem. I can get into the control port but not the device port, i have it enabled in the settings and have tried jumping pins 2-3 on the db9 but get no echo. I am pretty sure i modded it right. Does anyone have any other ideas i could try to diagnose the problem?

I guess one thing i should mention, i only had a 9 pin cable so i did everything according to the instructions and didn't ground pin 10. Do you think this could be my problem? I am wondering if i just short 9 and 10 now that 9 is grounded it will work.

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10955108#post10955108 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by waverz
I am pretty sure i modded it right. Does anyone have any other ideas i could try to diagnose the problem?
Without the ad233bk installed, if you short pin 3 and 5 on the IDC header, do you get an echo?

[waverz]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10955890#post10955890 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by laurentm
Without the ad233bk installed, if you short pin 3 and 5 on the IDC header, do you get an echo?

Yup get an echo there, except now the led doesn't light up on my mod....

[laurentm]

Something got to be wrong with the ad233bk. If you get an echo by shorting 3&5 on the IDC you should also get an echo by shorting 2&3 on the DB9.

[waverz]

Well that sucks, im gonna have to re check all my solder joints and see if i can find anything wrong.

Thanks for the help. If nothing else i guess i will try another kit.

[waverz]

This is driving me nuts, i have gone over all my connections and all the wiring several times and still can't get an echo by shorting 2 and 3 on the db9. I have checked for continuity on each side of the chip and its good. I am starting to wonder if my chip is bad, i really don't know what else to do with this thing now.

I did manage to figure out the power issue, was just a matter of pushing the header on all the way. I am totally out of ideas...going to try a different chip i guess. If that doesn't work maybe i'll buy a new router someday.

[waverz]

Do i need to change anything in the control port? I have tried enabling port 7000 and changed it to raw, i thought that did it but still stuck.

[laurentm]

Can you post close-up pictures of your ad233? Component side and solder side. Pics of the connectors (IDC and DB9) would help too.

You should not have to change anything in the control port.

[waverz]

Yup give me 5 minutes........

[waverz]

Here we go.

The DB9 connector 4 and 6 connected as well as 7 and 8.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a396/waverz/db9.jpg

Front of the PCB
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a396/waverz/pcbfront.jpg

Back of the PCB note the blue wire is grounded
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a396/waverz/pcbback.jpg

Back of the router, i only had a 9 pin cable so by jumping 9 and 10 they are both grounded.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a396/waverz/routerback.jpg

See anything wrong?

[laurentm]

It looks like you forgot the via for IC,pin4 and DB9,pin3. You also have the DB9 wired to J1 and J2. You need to connect it to the DB9 pin2,pin3 and pin5.

Check this wiring:
http://www.compsys1.com/assets/images/Max233sch.jpg

[waverz]

This is the guide i used:
http://www.rwhitby.net/projects/wrt54gs

Maybe i should have used a different one?

This is my first "electronics" project so you'll have to go easy on me. I just learned what a via was.

;)

I do appreciate the help. Thanks for taking the time to help me.

[laurentm]

De-solder the wires coming from the DB9.

On the DB9:
Connect 1, 4 & 6 together.
Connect 7 & 8 together.
Connect 2 to DB9,2 on the PCB
Connect 3 to DB9,3 on the PCB
Connect 5 to DB9,5 on the PCB (ground)

Check the via.

The instructions you followed are for the dual serial mod. You ended up with serial2 instead of serial1.

[waverz]

Man i was wondering about that the whole time....ill let ya know what happens.

[waverz]

Ok de-soldered everything and followed your instruction in this thread. I am pretty sure i have everything correct, i did have to switch pins 2 and 3 because i have the board for a female db9. I telnet to port 7000 and get a blinking cursor, when i type v the cursor scrolls over a few lines and i get a few square blocks.

In your instructions you say to join 4 and 6, but in the post you replied to you said to connect 1,4, and 6. Is this right?

[waverz]

Another thing i should mention is that in the first guide i used it mentioned cutting traces.

# Cut the track between the left-hand pin of J1 and pin 7 of the DB9F connector (the right-hand pin of J1 will be used for the second serial port).
# Cut the track between the right-hand pin of J2 and pin 8 of the DB9F connector (the left-hand pin of J2 will be used for the second serial port).

Do i need to re-connect these?

I also soldered a wire across the two pins for J3 should this be removed?

I really wish i hadn't used that guide.

[laurentm]

You do not need to reconnect the cut traces. 1,4,6 and 7,8 on the DB9 will take care of it.

Check your wiring with this schematic:
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/4285/5444serial.jpg

[waverz]

Well I'm gonna give it one more shot tonight, if it don't work i give up.

[waverz]

FINALLY IT WORKS!!!

Now i just have to get it configured for aquanotes......

[waverz]

I got it working with the virtual serial port, is there a way to configure aquanotes w/o it?

[pelochas]

well i just about given up.
i cant seem to find what i need to do to get my wireless ethernet adapter to work correctly. earlier on these post, i posted that im able to view the "Status" of my tank, but thats abouts it. When i view the "Modify Aqua Program" i get a bunch of character or gibberish in the fields. Same goes for the clock, calender, also when i try to download logs, etc.. Its like its dropiing packets or the data is not right.

i remove the dlink wireless gaming adapter, and went just a network cord to my lantronix serial comport / ethernet adapter. ran a network to my router. i get the same results.

so is there is something else i need to check for? do i need to look into the wireless router i have, the lantronix box i have, the acjr?

its like i receive data from the acjr, but i cant send data to it so that it will send me the other data i need like the programming, clock, logs. does the acjr constantly send the status data?

or is it that im sending data but im not receiving the data i need?

[clp]

Make sure that flow control is shut off. It sounds like characters are being drop in the PC to AquaController direction, and that is why only the simply status command works, but the more complicated commands do not.
The status data is only sent in response to the 'c' command.
Curt

[Lubu]

Is it possible to use DD-WRT intead of Lauren's firmware? I know DD-WRT supports MMC cards but I'm not sure about the serial port.

[waverz]

I am trying to get aquanotes to see my ACII w/o using the virtual com port, is this possible? I have tried Tank Database > Config > TCP > Ip Address (ipoftherouter:port) but can't get it to work.

[laurentm]

Yes, it is possible. Select Tank Database->Config->TCP (ACIII), enter the IP of the router, change the port to 7000 and leave the username and password blank.

[waverz]

So in the ip box i would have something like this? 192.168.0.66:7000
I dont see a box for port is why i ask, this is what i have tried and can't get it to work.

[laurentm]

In the latest version of AquaNotes, you can change the telnet port in the config window.

[waverz]

Cool got it working!

Thanks a lot lauren, i definitely could not have done this w/o your help.

[waverz]

Just an update, I'm not sure if it's just my setup or what but it seems like having it hooked up this way is a good way to check your parameters but is real buggy when you do more advanced things like setting up programs and whatnot. I get a lot of weird symbols when i display my programs, i have tried a bunch of different stuff to fix the problem but i really don't know what i am doing. I thought maybe it was the virtual serial port so i tried using the ip and port instead but i still get the same weird symbols and errors.

[pelochas]

i get the same problem, you get a bunch of gibberish data on all your fields. i can only get Status to work and send simple commands to turn on/off/auto any of the 8 power ports but thats it, nothing else works right. it definately has to be something with my serial to ethernet device

[waverz]

Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one at least. I'm about ready to sell this stuff and just buy an ACIII. I really don't want to pay all the extra cash but i have to have ethernet. I would just leave the serial cable hooked up but i get ground loop problems and i really don't want to spend anymore money on this controller. If i add up how much i have spent on this thing i could have just gotten the acIII pro....

[Stixbaraca]

I've breezed this thread as I am a new AC Jr. owner with many of the same issues and desires as you guys here. Has ANYONE been able to sustain a successful and productive connection between their serial AC Jr. and their wireless home network in a cost effective manner?

[waverz]

I'm also interested if there are anymore people who have done this mod successfully. It does work, there just has to be a way to have cleaner data coming back to the PC. For the most part my connection works, someitme i just get weird timer names and weird symbols. It seems like it doesn't matter is you use the virtual serial port or just use the ip of the router, the results are the same.

I just ordered an ACIII so no need for me to tinker with the mod anymore but like i said, this one does work, but its just flakey at times.

[Stixbaraca]

waerz...what did you use computer hardware wise to complete the connection?

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11429728#post11429728 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by waverz
I'm also interested if there are anymore people who have done this mod successfully. It does work, there just has to be a way to have cleaner data coming back to the PC. For the most part my connection works, someitme i just get weird timer names and weird symbols. It seems like it doesn't matter is you use the virtual serial port or just use the ip of the router, the results are the same.

I just ordered an ACIII so no need for me to tinker with the mod anymore but like i said, this one does work, but its just flakey at times.

Your transmission problems might be caused by the Sipex SP233AEP chip you are using. It requires a 5v power supply and the WRT54G only has a 3v going to the transceiver.

You should use the MAX3232 instead. It is designed to work with 3.3v and it should solve your level errors.

[boboxx]

if anyone is looking to get a simple Serial to Ethernet module have a look at this:

http://www.saelig.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ETH026&Category_Code=ETH

[Stixbaraca]

Interesting boboxx...I guess you could just fabricate a little box for it or something. I wonder if it would transmit the info correctly.

I wonder...on such a hot topic...why Neptune hasn't come up with some sort of wireless situation for the AC Jr.

[rsw686]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11434071#post11434071 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by boboxx
if anyone is looking to get a simple Serial to Ethernet module have a look at this:

http://www.saelig.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ETH026&Category_Code=ETH

I'm tempted to buy one of these. I looked up more on it and found


WIZ110SR is based on WIZnet’s TCP/IP-offload IC W5100 with built-in Ethernet driver stage. Set-up for WIZ110SR is very easy with the configuration software provided. Three different modes of operation are supported: TCP server, TCP client, and UDP. TCP guarantees data delivery, but UDP doesn’t require acknowledgement, so communication can be faster. Once the TCP client and server have established connection, data can be transparently transmitted bi-directionally. WIZ110SR’s IP Address can be manually assigned (static IP), or IP, subnet and gateway address can be acquired from the DHCP server automatically. Serial commands can be hardware- or software-triggered.


It looks perfect to use in this situation. You would configure it as a TCP server and assign it a static IP.

[Stixbaraca]

There are a lot of articles out there about this product. Might be worth a try!

[boboxx]

I will give it a try for sure :c)

running a cat5 is not a issue for me and will be better in the long run anyway compared to wireless...

[Stixbaraca]

very good point...running the ethernet is doable for me to. Boboxx...how would you mount the module?

[boboxx]

I will just stick in a small box... but not sure yet. I will get the module first to see how big it is

[Stixbaraca]

let me know how it works

[waverz]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11433751#post11433751 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by laurentm
Your transmission problems might be caused by the Sipex SP233AEP chip you are using. It requires a 5v power supply and the WRT54G only has a 3v going to the transceiver.

You should use the MAX3232 instead. It is designed to work with 3.3v and it should solve your level errors.

REALLY? Man i just ordered an ACIII, i would much rather spend the money on a different chip than the $400 for a new controller.

[Stixbaraca]

Anyone run this Saelig yet???

[kedd]

I'm currently running a WRT150N Linksys router in my home.
My question is will the Linksys WGA600N work as my bridge for the ACIII?

http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/prod...l.do?oid=201368

Kedd

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11700380#post11700380 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kedd
I'm currently running a WRT150N Linksys router in my home.
My question is will the Linksys WGA600N work as my bridge for the ACIII?
Kedd

Yes it should work fine but a WGA11B or WGA54G would be cheaper.

[buscaruidos]

Please, any one. i´m need the firm for the wrt54.
The link on this thread its broken.
Thanks

[laurentm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11934910#post11934910 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by buscaruidos
Please, any one. i´m need the firm for the wrt54.
The link on this thread its broken.
Thanks

Try this link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NM9YZDV1

[buscaruidos]

Thanks!!!!

[buscaruidos]

And the pass and user for this firm is??...
I'm try root, admin, etc, and not work. HELPPPP Please.

THANKS¡¡

[buscaruidos]

Sorry¡¡ I'm find it¡¡¡
pushbutton rset >10 sec. and user blank pass "admin"

Thanks

[laurentm]

Here's an update for the firmware (v0.2):

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q12UEJWK

- Updated Linksys' firmware to 4.71.1
- Updated Hyperwrt to Thibor15c
- Updated ser2net to v2.5
- Added a connection timeout
- Added a serial port selector

[MrSandman]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11701640#post11701640 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by laurentm
Yes it should work fine but a WGA11B or WGA54G would be cheaper.

Do either of those utilize WPA encryption? Or only WEP? I just bought a WGA54G from Fry's for 69 bucks and it only had WEP. Otherwise, would any wireless bridge work? FYI, i just found the WGA54G on sale at Office Depot for 24 bucks.

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/395526/WGA54G-Game-Adapter/

Might be a good option for those of you who still run WEP. As for mine, it is going back tomorrow and i'll be upgrading to something a bit more secure.

[Primetime33]

I am currently running a Linksys WRT54GS as my wireless router.

http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1175241409472&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=0947236001B02


I purchased this serial to ethernet adapter WIZ110SR

http://www.saelig.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ETH026&Category_Code=ETH

Would a WET54 work to connect to my ACjr?

http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1134692497433&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=9743339789B09


I have no option to connect my PC to my ACjr.. too far apart from each other.

[Stixbaraca]

Double Post

[Stixbaraca]

Is it working flawlessly for anyone?

[Geep]

I would like to thank laurentm for all the work he put into this development.
A couple of months ago I came across this thread and decided to give it a try. The modification did not take very long although I did spend some time reading a number of articles on the web (due to the fact that I consider myself to have very limited computer skills). For those who wish to attempt this, I recommend that you read the previous pages and follow the instructions closely. The only change I would recommend is to purchase a null modem with the A232DBH3v kit in order to reduce the amount of soldering required.
Thank you laurentm, I certainly could not have done this on my own.

[Mitch529]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11434071#post11434071 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by boboxx
if anyone is looking to get a simple Serial to Ethernet module have a look at this:

http://www.saelig.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ETH026&Category_Code=ETH

Has anyone tried this? I have an old WRT54G Rev. 4 laying around but that adapter would be nice and easy!

[MrVociferous]

Has anyone tried using a serial to USB adapter, and then using a wireless USB device to connect to their router? Both my Tivo and xbox connect to my router using wireless USB and I wondered if the same would work for an ACJr.

[Primetime33]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12162368#post12162368 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mitch529
Has anyone tried this? I have an old WRT54G Rev. 4 laying around but that adapter would be nice and easy!


Make sure you have a power adapter for this lying around or make sure you order one. It does not come with it. Now they are changing the website to reflect the lack of an adapter. now they want to charge me $33 to overnight it.

[Primetime33]

The Saelig unit does not do a darn thing. I can configure it but the ACJr will not be accessible. Do Not waste your money!!
I used a static ip of 192.168.1.105 port was set at 5000. Direct connect from serial port to saelig unit. Aquanotes does not see it.
Normal serial connections do work so the serial cable is ok and the serial port are ok. Saelig connection is a waste of money!! Guess I have to get a 3 or RKE one of these days.

[ZenMan]

Anyone know how many wireless bridges I can run using one wireless router? Is this running as point to point where I can only run one wireless serial adaptor, or can I run several of these modded WRT54G's using one router connected to my wired network?

[rdmpe]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12179923#post12179923 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MrVociferous
Has anyone tried using a serial to USB adapter, and then using a wireless USB device to connect to their router? Both my Tivo and xbox connect to my router using wireless USB and I wondered if the same would work for an ACJr.
I'm also using a serial->USB adaptor to connect to my laptop. I'm also interested in whether or not we could use a USB->wireless adaptor on the end of it.

[harman]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12893568#post12893568 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rdmpe
I'm also using a serial->USB adaptor to connect to my laptop. I'm also interested in whether or not we could use a USB->wireless adaptor on the end of it.
I read a post somewhere that you can use an IOGEAR- GBS301 serial adapter with bluetooth and connect wirelessly to your computer. That is of course if your computer has bluetooth.

[kpk]

Quick question. I just got an ac3 pro and wanting to get it connected. I have a laptop that is tank dedicated and wireless. Can I just hook the serial cable up that way and the ac3 be wireless?