Back in the Saddle Again!! My new 480g In-Wall thread [Archive]

loserkidz

03/19/2006, 11:14 PM

Well if you haven't heard by now I basically lost everything including my tank in the Big Move to Texas, there are threads about it which I don't really want to talk about. Anyways I am going to be building a 480g in wall tank, it consists of a Acrylic 96"x48"x24" and is made of 1-1/4" completely to have a 4" euro brased top. Steve at SocalCreations will be handling this feat, and I will be welding the stand out of 4"x4"x1/4" mild steel. The reason for the industrial strength stand is it will be free standing including the 4-5" lip that will make the tank flush with the outside wall. I haven't seen one built like this so I will put my welding skills to the test. The front will be faced with a variety of high density urethane based crown molding,pilasters,friezes and other accents to create a pleasing look to the install. I have a crude pic of a ghetto drawing of the look I hope to obtain.http://images.snapfish.com/3465%3A66%3A2%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323359%3B8%3B39%3A%3Bnu0mrj Here are some pics of the actual wall and adjoing "fish room" that will be housing the system. I will be using the same equipment but will be removing the Vho setup and adding on 3 more Lumenarcs to the mix, so a total of 6-400w lighting the tank.http://images.snapfish.com/3465%3A66%3A2%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323359%3B8%3A4%3C8%3Cnu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/3465%3A66%3A2%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323359%3B8%3A7%3C85nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/3465%3A66%3A2%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323359%3B8%3A7%3C79nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/3465%3A66%3A2%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323359%3B8%3A4%3C7%3Cnu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/3465%3A66%3A2%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323359%3B8%3A4%3C7%3Anu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/3465%3A66%3A2%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323359%3B8%3A4%3C86nu0mrj I am debating on adding 4 of the wavy seas in each corner,or a pair of waveboxes w/ my 4 streams or 8- oceans motion. I will also be looking to upgrade my skimmer, I am looking at the Deltec 703 or comperable skimmer. Any suggestions or experience you have had in the past would be greatly appeciated.
Brent Higa

Bill Wann

03/20/2006, 04:58 PM

A suggestiom , screw the 4 inch euro and extra thick acrylic and use a welded steel frame , made of 1.5 angle , Tig weld it so its nice . an dthen cover ot the pve angle thats miteres and welded at the corners . I buils all my tanks this way and its the only way to , look at some of the german tank bulider thay do it that way . You will still gt a alot of bow with a 4 inch brace . One of my tanks is 6 x 8 x 4 foot high and has no bow .

AcroSteve

03/20/2006, 05:03 PM

Very interesting.

What do you plan on making the lip out of? 3/8"x 8" would be the minimum, probably.

AcroSteve

03/20/2006, 05:06 PM

Bill, What thickness angle would you suggest for 8'x4'? Your 8' tank has a center brace. Could you possibly use 2" angle and avoid it?

Are you saying to just build an open top acrylic box "tank" and then put the frame around it? Or build it in the frame from the beginning?

Bill Wann

03/20/2006, 06:51 PM

Build the box and put he frame on , the cover the frame in pve so it doeasnt corode .I Have a six foot cube tank with out a center brace and sitll using 1.5 inch angle ,

SERVO

03/20/2006, 10:13 PM

You still have your Chalice corals and a few acros!
I'll be following this closely; Check out some of your babies.
Your Chalice corals are one the left and right of the tank at the bottom.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a12/ryanreeves/P3040011.jpg

Once this thing is up and running, I'll give you all the frags you need to start over.

Welcome to Texas!!! Give me a call yah loser!

TCU Reefer

03/20/2006, 11:08 PM

Welcome to the metroplex Brent. I see that the sump that Marc fixed is holding up. Can't wait to see this system up and running.

Ixthys

03/21/2006, 07:32 AM

I've always used tubular steel to build my stands, but some of you seem to prefer angle iron. Any particular reason?

Loserkidz, are you using Mig or Tig to weld?

newtophish

03/21/2006, 02:10 PM

I will be following along hoping not to drool on my keyboard. Welcome Home. Remember some people were born in Texas, the rest of us got here as quick as we could.

loserkidz

03/21/2006, 06:48 PM

Ixthys,
with the steel being 1/4" I am using my Lincoln Ranger9 arc welder with onboard Generator since I will have to weld it in the fish room, my calcs come up with 827# worth of steel. I don't think I will be trying to move it into the house. Servo, thanks for your help with housing my corals that lived. i know you and Marc have been a great help. I just hope to return the favor later once I get my system up and running. I still owe Marc some welding work too.
Thanks,
Brent

SERVO

03/22/2006, 05:12 PM

No problem man! I know what it is like to move across the country with a big tank. Too bad you didn't move a little closer toward the Metroplex, anyway, I'm sure you'll be active in the club. I hope your family is making the adjustments!

Ixthys

03/22/2006, 09:25 PM

Dang that's a lot of steel! Are you planning on just melting it all down into one big solid mass? :D

On a serious note though, what are you going to use to protect the metal from rust?

loserkidz

03/23/2006, 07:44 AM

If you check out my Cali. friend Konadog in the Maslac forum he catually coated his stand with Linex. I saw in person and you could hit it with a wrench and it was dead silent. I swear it was 1/4" thick. I will definately have to buy the Diy kit since I wouldn't be able to haul the stand around.
Servo:
please pm me you number I liked the look of your tanks facia boards. Very clean and appealing.
Brent

Konadog

03/23/2006, 08:41 AM

This is what Line-x on my stand looks like.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/9086stand4.JPG

Ixthys

03/23/2006, 08:48 AM

Konadog, that is just plain sweet! Plus, it looks like you've got some nice joints there.

How do you do it on-site? They make a DIY Line-x type material? I know some folks looked into this, and you had to buy big drums of the chemicals as well as the sprayer.

Konadog

03/23/2006, 08:54 AM

I don't know of a DIY kit or even a portable system. HD carries a roll on bed liner, but it's nothing like Line-x. I do think it will work since we aren't tossing a ton of junk on it and driving like a nut job down the freeway with it!

As Brent mentioned, this stuff definitely deadened the sound transfer of a metal stand.

saurus

03/23/2006, 10:19 AM

Brent, glad to see you are back in the saddle. Good luck with the project. I have a couple more luminarcs if you need them.

Cheers,

Clint
p.s. If you get a chance I would love to see a few pics of the new house.

loserkidz

04/01/2006, 07:53 AM

Well I was able to make some time this week with my busy and akward work schedule and was able to finish riping out the wall and bracing up the perimeter. I ended up shooting the texture coat and knocking it down to match the rest o fthe wall. I should be riping up the carpet in the fish room tonight, and will start cutting up the 4x4 steel sunday. I will have to wled it in the room as there is no way to move it once it is built. I also picked up the rubberized truchk liner for the stand too.
Steve at t Socalcreations.com said the tank should be here the first of May. I hope to have everything done including laying the tile out in the room and have the full facia done on the oustde as well.http://images.snapfish.com/3466%3B349%3B%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323359%3B8%3A4%3C77nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/3466%3B349%3B%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D3233626964%3B75nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/3466%3B349%3B%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336269698%3B8nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/3466%3B349%3B%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D3233626964%3B74nu0mrj
Brent Higa

Chaotic Reefer4u

04/01/2006, 10:22 AM

very nice start...

sixxer

04/01/2006, 10:47 AM

Looking great so far....

SERVO

04/01/2006, 12:06 PM

Boy the upside down sohal tang is really freakin me out!

You Da Man! Looks good!

loserkidz

04/03/2006, 07:40 AM

Well I ended up welding up the stand yesterday and will finish grinding down the welds and applying the first coat of the sprayon liner. I had a hell of a time flipping the stand around to do the welding, remember it is 4"X4"X1/4" square tubing. Once I welded the top structure I had to weld on the legs and turn it 180 degrees to stand it up. I have it worked out to be over 800#s so it wasn't an easy task. That is the reason for me welding it inside the room, not that I wanted to but I couldn't see any other way for one person to do it. And yes, my kids had on welding goggles, I just couldn't find any small enough for my fish!!!!!!!!!!!!!http://images.snapfish.com/34672%3A742%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323362%3B6%3C5596nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34672%3A742%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323362%3B734%3B28nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34672%3A742%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323362%3B6%3B9626nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34672%3A742%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323362%3B6%3B348%3Anu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34672%3A742%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323362%3B6%3B3498nu0mrj

Konadog

04/03/2006, 07:46 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7100332#post7100332 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by loserkidz
...And yes, my kids had on welding goggles You can't prove it with those pictures!

Brent, that stand is going to be a monster!

PS, didn't anyone teach you how to use a level? :lmao:

loserkidz

04/03/2006, 07:49 AM

I would have liked to have all of the corners mitered as I usually do, but with it being made out of such large tubing my chopsaw just wasn't up to the task, believe me I tried. If you notice in the following pictures the whole stand will be supporting all of the weight. Most inwalls rest on the front pony wall. I actually have a 1/4" gap between the stand and the wall, hence the reason for such a beefed up stand.http://images.snapfish.com/34672%3A742%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323362%3B6%3B9627nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34672%3A742%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323362%3B6%3B348%3Cnu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34672%3A742%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323362%3B6%3B9629nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34672%3A742%7Ffp339%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323362%3B6%3B3496nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34672%3A742%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323362%3B734%3B29nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34672%3A742%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323362%3B734%3B33nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34672%3A742%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323362%3B6%3C55%3A7nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34672%3A742%7Ffp339%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323362%3B734%3B3%3Cnu0mrj

loserkidz

04/03/2006, 07:51 AM

Smart Arse, Look at the last pictures, I ended up using it the correct way earlier. I just was to tired to flip it over for you.
Brent

disbjohn

04/03/2006, 08:41 AM

Brent,
Welcome to the metroplex. This surely is going to be an awesome build! :D

Ixthys

04/03/2006, 09:33 AM

Where'd you get the spray-on liner? What's it called?

Could you take a pic of it?

Thanks!

Konadog

04/03/2006, 09:53 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7100383#post7100383 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by loserkidz
Smart Arse, Look at the last pictures, I ended up using it the correct way earlier. I just was to tired to flip it over for you.
Brent :lmao: Right!

This is coming from someone that needs to color code his twins to tell them apart!
http://images.snapfish.com/34672%3A742%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323362%3B6%3C55%3A7nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34672%3A742%7Ffp339%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323362%3B734%3B3%3Cnu0mrj

Brent, that stand is capable of holding up your entire house! Nice job. How's the sump and frag tank holding up? I lost a few more things before I could transfer all my stuff over. It's a good thing I didn't take any of your stuff before you left.

Ixthys, this is what Line-x truck bed liner looks like on a stand, but it has to be done in a shop with a special sprayer:
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/9086stand2.JPG http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/9086stand3.JPG

tomasz

04/03/2006, 10:52 AM

[QUOTE]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7100374#post7100374 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by loserkidz
[B]I would have liked to have all of the corners mitered as I usually do, but with it being made out of such large tubing my chopsaw just wasn't up to the task, believe me I tried. If you notice in the following pictures the whole stand will be supporting all of the weight. Most inwalls rest on the front pony wall. I actually have a 1/4" gap between the stand and the wall, hence the reason for such a beefed up stand.
____________________________________________________

This is what I did with my tank 96x42x30T. A lot easier to keep it leveled. Looks good.

alien9168

04/03/2006, 04:53 PM

I really like your welding work. Also the tanks location. I really think this tank is going to look great as a part of your house! :)

-alien

loserkidz

04/05/2006, 04:15 PM

http://images.snapfish.com/34674%3A%3A9%3B%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336376766%3B3nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34674%3A%3A9%3B%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336376766%3A8nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34674%3A%3A%3B2%7Ffp339%3Enu%3D3233%3E546%3E673%3E2324546764%3A5%3Aot1lsi http://images.snapfish.com/34674%3A%3A%3B7%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D3233%3E546%3E673%3E2324546764%3A62ot1lsi

Ixthys

04/05/2006, 04:24 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7100332#post7100332 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by loserkidz
Well I ended up welding up the stand yesterday and will finish grinding down the welds and applying the first coat of the sprayon liner.

What spray-on liner are you talking about?
thanks!

Ixthys

04/05/2006, 04:25 PM

Konadog, that stand looks too good to put a tank on!

Konadog

04/05/2006, 05:42 PM

Too Late!!!

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/9086Tank_filling.JPG

This is when I filled it last week.

Brent, at the speed your working, how are you going to hold the water in place while you wait for your tank :confused:

alien9168

04/05/2006, 05:42 PM

It really does look good.
At first...just because of the picture, I thought it was a dining room table...that piece of wood on the top makes it really look like a finished surface! ;)

I cant wait to see the tank on it. :)

melev

04/06/2006, 03:19 AM

Brent, this is awesome. And the sump is holding water!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOHOO!!!

loserkidz

04/06/2006, 01:33 PM

http://us.st11.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/rodi_1892_34604308
Here is the product that I used, it is available at most auto parts stores. There a few manufactures to choose from. Granted it is not as thick as Linex, but for the price I used 3 cans and made three passes which is more than enough.
Brent

Marc,
Nice to hear from you, hopefully when this project if over I can make it to the DFWMAS meetings.
Brent

http://search.hp.netscape.com/hp/boomframe.jsp?query=duplicolor+spray+paint&page=1&offset=0&result_url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26requestId%3D2b388af25440d9be%26clickedItemRank%3D1%26userQuery% 3Dduplicolor%2Bspray%2Bpaint%26clickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.autobarn.net%252Fduplicolor.h tml%26invocationType%3D-%26fromPage%3DHPSidebar%26amp%3BampTest%3D1&remove_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autobarn.net%2Fduplicolor.html

melev

04/06/2006, 01:50 PM

The next meeting is in Plano, Brent. Way over in your neck of the woods. Maybe you can show up briefly and introduce yourself to the members. Or drop in on the club's board a little more. ;)

loserkidz

04/06/2006, 03:03 PM

Marc,
I didn't want to intrude your guy's board too much since I haven't officially been able to join yet.

melev

04/06/2006, 03:26 PM

Hmm. I need to check on something.

alien9168

04/06/2006, 04:52 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7125617#post7125617 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
Hmm. I need to check on something.

What do you need to check?

melev

04/06/2006, 05:28 PM

All done. :)

Brent, you should feel free to post and participate on the board as you so desire and have the time. We don't restrict people from using the board, demanding they be a member. Some people associate with the club for a year or longer before finally officially joining. I have a feeling from getting to know you that it won't be nearly that long.

We've got a good support group, and you should feel free to lean on us and get some help when necessary.

SERVO

04/06/2006, 11:11 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7125440#post7125440 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by loserkidz
Marc,
I didn't want to intrude your guy's board too much since I haven't officially been able to join yet.

What do you mean YOUR board??? Whether you officially joined or not, anyone who puts together a system like this is a member by proxy. ;) And by the way, you can't use the everything is big in Texas excuse!

alien9168

04/08/2006, 10:49 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7128657#post7128657 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SERVO
What do you mean YOUR board??? Whether you officially joined or not, anyone who puts together a system like this is a member by proxy. ;) And by the way, you can't use the everything is big in Texas excuse!

:thumbsup:

alien9168

04/08/2006, 10:50 AM

Just curious guys...what do you do in a reef club?

SHould I join one?

melev

04/08/2006, 11:08 AM

Darn. I typed that up a long time ago, and wish I could just point you to the link. Since I use the word "club" so often, a search won't find it.

The club is a huge perk for local hobbyists. You have someone to lean upon when things go wrong during the night or day. You learn tricks that save you money or simplify your tank's needs. You have a network of people spotting great deals. You can purchase stuff in bulk and divvy it up. You can do group buys and divide shipping evenly. You have a group to visit with monthly in person, to just talk about what you love. And more...

Yes, find your local club. If you go to MASNA.org, you can look at the national club database to see if one is near you. Your location is a tad vague to me, so I can't help.

alien9168

04/08/2006, 11:18 AM

Ok. Thanks Mark. I'll go to masna.org.

THanks man! :)

sps_addict

04/09/2006, 01:38 AM

Looking good Brent!

@Marc : Lol, where were all the texas reefers when I visited Waxahachie 3 years ago! Bummer cause I really wanted to check out some of the LFS when I was out there for 2 weeks.

melev

04/09/2006, 04:39 AM

We were here! You just need to let us know in advance, and we'll point you toward some choice destinations. :)

loserkidz

04/13/2006, 02:50 PM

Well Steve over at www.socalcreations.com posted some pics of the tank being manufatured. I am thinking that we are getting pretty close to a bullet proof enclosure,whatcha think?http://www.socalcreations.com/images/current_creations/brent/tank1.jpg http://www.socalcreations.com/images/current_creations/brent/tank2.jpg
brent higa

melev

04/13/2006, 03:41 PM

Nice seam!

sps_addict

04/18/2006, 07:23 PM

Hey Brent,

Looking good! I saw your tank in the works! It has all 4 sides up so far! That thing is a monster!!!!

I am in tank envy.

Steve

loserkidz

04/19/2006, 05:00 PM

Christmas came early!!!http://images.snapfish.com/34686%3C33%3A%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323366%3A3363%3A7nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34686%3C33%3A%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323366%3A337865nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/34686%3C33%3A%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323366%3A3363%3A8nu0mrj

NexDog

04/19/2006, 09:46 PM

Deltec Rules. :D

john37

04/20/2006, 12:22 AM

so beautiful brent....man good thing you didnt have that before the move....probably would have broken it. Cant wait to see your sick tank.

alien9168

04/20/2006, 07:27 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7210842#post7210842 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NexDog
Deltec Rules. :D

Absolutley! :)

BTW Brent your tank--based on the pics-- looks really good! :)

loserkidz

05/03/2006, 07:06 AM

Well, the tank should be arriving at the terminal this afternoon and I will be trailering it home from Dallas to my house her in Rockwall. I finally got a chance to do some more work on the fish room. The outside is basically done, all of the moldings and trim and also the front hatch is complete. Here is the sketch from the first page of this thread. http://images.snapfish.com/3465%3A66%3A2%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323359%3B8%3B39%3A%3Bnu0mrj and here is a pic of it now. http://images1.snapfish.com/346989672%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A53%3A%3A573nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346989672%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A53%3A%3A575nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346989672%7Ffp339%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A53%3C9%3B35nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346989672%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A53%3C9%3B36nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346989672%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A53%3C9%3B37nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346989672%7Ffp339%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A53%3A%3A577nu0mrj I must first thank my wife for putting up with my mess and the patience to see me rip a hole in our new house. I am having some of my friends from work come by Sat. to help lift the tank onto the stand. The tank has 2 2'' drains 2 1 1/2" bulkheads also in the overflow and also two 1 1/2" holes in the rear panel for a closed loop. I will be using my seq 5800seq23 for my return and pushing it back into the tank through my 8way oceans motion. And lastly but not least I have four streams that will be helping puch the flow back and forth. I will post some pics once the tank arrives and I know I must have the required kids in the tank shot, I am just wondering if I can shove my whole family in it!!!
Brent Higa

disbjohn

05/03/2006, 07:34 AM

*drools*

Very nice work!

NexDog

05/03/2006, 10:02 AM

Super schweet.

john37

05/03/2006, 10:17 AM

wow brent, it's coming along nicely. looks soo clean.

kyleka.

05/03/2006, 05:07 PM

Can't wait to see the tank. Nice work!

GMFett

05/03/2006, 06:13 PM

First- that tank is going to be ridiculously awesome.
Second- great metal work.
Third- Looks extremely classy from the living room.

Sweet job man. Looks awesome....
Marcus :bum:

johnxboi

05/03/2006, 10:29 PM

awww dude i must see your tank! i live in plano! must see when its done!

robthorn

05/04/2006, 06:27 AM

great job looks nice trimmed in white

Chrisrush

05/04/2006, 07:25 AM

Brent, that looks amazing. Did you do the trim yourself? I can't wait to see the new sump and everything installed.

When are you putting it into place? Let a few of us locals know, I'll come help out if you need me too.

Thanks,
Chris

loserkidz

05/04/2006, 12:42 PM

Thanks for all the compliments. I will be welding up the light rack in a few minutes and hopefully have the Lumenarcs up and firing tonight. I havent't had a chance to order the linear actuator to raise and lower the rack yet, so it will have to be raised manually for now.
Chris, yes I did the trim work so it could have been more ornate, but this was my first shot at something like this.
Brent

loserkidz

05/05/2006, 11:33 AM

http://images1.snapfish.com/3469%3A8567%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A%3C6477%3B6nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/3469%3A8567%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A%3C632836nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/3469%3A8567%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A%3C6477%3B%3Anu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/3469%3A8567%7Ffp339%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A%3C632838nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/3469%3A8567%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A%3C647825nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/3469%3A8567%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A%3C63283%3Anu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/3469%3A8567%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A%3C647828nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/3469%3A8567%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A%3C63283%3Cnu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/3469%3A8567%7Ffp339%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A%3C64782%3Cnu0mrj

loserkidz

05/05/2006, 11:33 AM

http://images1.snapfish.com/3469%3A8567%7Ffp339%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A%3C632844nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/3469%3A8567%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A%3C647835nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/3469%3A8567%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A%3C632847nu0mrj

Chrisrush

05/05/2006, 12:22 PM

That thing is amazing. I really dig the lack of cross braces or heavy eurobracing. Did you end up going with 1" acrylic?

Chris

loserkidz

05/05/2006, 12:34 PM

1-1/4" acrylic=bullet proof or in our case tornado proof!!!!!!!!!!

Chrisrush

05/05/2006, 12:38 PM

Tornado proof indeed. Don't jinx me though, I'm sitting on a glass tank.

Chris

Konadog

05/05/2006, 12:38 PM

Would it have been cheaper to put in a swimming pool? :D

BumpinTJ24

05/05/2006, 12:40 PM

SWEET!!!

That thing is a monster! When I head up to Dallas to see Marc, i'm gonna have to make a detour and check this baby out.
Get to work man, I want more pics!!

Ram

Chrisrush

05/05/2006, 12:45 PM

Ram, when are you heading up to Dallas?

You can pm me so that we don't hijack this thread.

Chris

NexDog

05/05/2006, 08:50 PM

What an awesome size. :)

melev

05/05/2006, 09:40 PM

I like how it was boxed up, and hitch-proofed! :D

Congrats, Brent. I can't wait to see what you do next!

SERVO

05/05/2006, 10:55 PM

Wowza!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

This is coming along really great! I like your trim. I think that it came our really nice. ;) I'm looking forward to seeing you complete your new set up! Usually, size gets lost in pictures, but this tank if F*##^*^ unbeliveably Grande!

Are you going to Macna?

loserkidz

05/07/2006, 08:31 AM

http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3A24748%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3B96543%3B9nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3A24748%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3B964%3A336nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3A24748%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3B964%3A339nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3A24748%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3B96543%3B8nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3A24748%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3B964%3A33%3Cnu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3A24748%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3B964%3A347nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3A24748%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3B96543%3B%3Bnu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3A24748%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3B964%3A348nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3A24748%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3B964%3A34%3Cnu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3A24748%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3B964%3A353nu0mrj

SERVO

05/07/2006, 11:31 AM

Brent,

That looks absolutely stunning! Work well done! I'm surprised that you were able to find enough guys to lift that monster. I've live here for about 19 months and I don't think that I have enough friends to help lift a 150 let alone your tank. :lol: Looking absolutely awesome. So tell me; how do you ultimately envision this tank? What are your aquascaping plans? Are you going to make valleys? Do you want a couple of large colonies of acropora or are you just going to load it up?

Now for the 500 dollar trip to Lowes/HD!
What circulation are you going to use? Ever consider eductors on your closed loop? Frag system?

Questions questions questions. Oh yah... When are you going to come get these massive chalice colonies? :p :lol: :D Just kiddin!

melev

05/07/2006, 11:37 AM

http://melevsreef.com/g/cheer.gif

Brent, this is really coming out nicely. I know it wasn't your original plan, which for all intents and purposes was darn near flawless. Your new tank is a wonderful upgrade imho.

Keep up the good work and many will learn from this thread.

You should update your signature line now. :)

alien9168

05/07/2006, 03:17 PM

Your tank looks amazing there!

Good play going with the super thick acrillic! :)

:thumbsup:

melev

05/07/2006, 04:07 PM

Brent, did you put a sheet of foam under your new tank? Did the builder recommend it?

Konadog

05/07/2006, 04:44 PM

Mark, when I talked with him, he said that SoCal creations recommends putting foam under it. Problem was, Brent didn't leave any room for it. After speaking with them, and seeing the detail he put into the stand, they said it was OK to put it directly on the wood.

aynoT79

05/07/2006, 05:12 PM

Cant wait to see this monster when its all done and running!!!

melev

05/07/2006, 05:20 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7321944#post7321944 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Konadog
Mark, when I talked with him, he said that SoCal creations recommends putting foam under it. Problem was, Brent didn't leave any room for it. After speaking with them, and seeing the detail he put into the stand, they said it was OK to put it directly on the wood.

I had a feeling. A lot of people don't consider the 3/4" to 1" thickness the foam will take up. Glad they signed off on his platform.

loserkidz

05/08/2006, 06:30 AM

Servo,
I was fortunate enough to have some great guys to work with over here when I moved out here to Texas, I transferred within the company so alot of people already new who I was and my work ethics. Plus I fed them and had the fight that night!!! As far as the aquascaping goes. In my ghetto fabulous drawing on the first page, my ultimate goal is to leave plenty of room for my fish to grow out in and enjoy their new home. I have a large 14" vlamingi tang that is eye balling the new tank since he is crammed in my sump for now. I couldn't belive when I got my first electrical bill out here how much ya'all pay, I thought it was bad in California. My system isn't even up yet and I am paying more now than over there.
So to offset some of the usage I am not going to be using the 6-luminarcs that was in my first plan. I ended up getting away with 4 of them and the spread is nice..... In the pics only 3 were lit as I found out that one of my capcitors is bad.
I brought with me from cali around 1100#'s of marshall,fiji,and tonga that I had in my old system plus some huge pedistal/shelf pieces I got from my friend Tat(Tat's Tropical Illusions/Rio/Taam/oceanpure). Some measure 36"x30" so I am looking to do valleys and islands througout the tank. Eventhough my old system way 385g I had way too much rock in there for a full blown SPS system with large fish. I love both worlds, but my huge tangs always fragged my colonies for me. My approach here is the leave out plenty of room for them to swim around the islands, not into them. I will probably need a couple of Aquacaping Experts to help out when I am ready to take that next step!!
As far as plumbing goes, I have made numerous trips to Lowes/HD and marine depot and have most of the major compnents. The systme will b edriven by 1-sequence 5800seq23 which will return from my huge sump that Marc fixed. It will then head straight through one of the 1-1/2" bublkheads that is inside the overflow. It will then extend about 5" above the top of the tank which the oceans motion 8way will sit atop and drop all the returns along th eperimeter of the tank. I will also have 4 streams throught the tank to help out with flow too.
My wife is begging me to not go DSB as I had problems with my other tank picking up sand with the magnet and scratching the tank up. I already have the sand in the garage, I ended up going with a larger grade sand instead of the 0-sugar size that I had in my old system. Being in the hobby for for 10+ years you start to understand why all of the old timers always tell you to take your time and really plan out your system. I want to make sure that I invision for changes or upgrades in the fututre, that is why there are 2 1-1/2" bulkheads in the back wall for a later closed loop and to have such a large overflow that can hande 6000gp, just incase I want a surge system. I will keep documenting my progress as I go and thanks to all of my cali and Texas friends for you comments and support.
Brent Higa

elephen

05/08/2006, 06:58 AM

Looks really nice man!

Chrisrush

05/08/2006, 07:30 AM

Brent,
Welcome to the land of high property taxes and high electricity. They tend to leave those facts out of the TX tourism brochures.

Good fight on Sat. night huh?

Let me know when you want to aquascape, I'll bring my lifting belt over to help you lift some of those heavier pieces.

Chris

loserkidz

05/08/2006, 07:41 AM

Chris,
What is funny, my friends at work think I should have all kinds of money since I paid cash for our 4000sf home, but what they don't understand is that I pay 9000 in property taxes. Your are more than welcome to come over anytime. I have to head out to Lowes and pickup some plumbing pieces. I still cant belive your guys lowes has union valves and sweeps.......................
Brent

Chrisrush

05/08/2006, 08:57 AM

Brent,
Thanks for the invite, you may regret that open invitation :)

I have a couple of neighboors who moved from the West coast and did the same thing that you did.

Chris

onetrickpony

05/11/2006, 10:09 PM

Welcome to Texas
Check out this website for electricity prices
http://www.powertochoose.org/

It looks like it is any where from 0.13 to 0.19 per /kWh for your zip
You can also check out the companyâ€™s web site for a better deal sometimes
Last September I changed providers and mine dropped from 0.13 to 0.09
It made a large difference in my bill
Great setup I keep following every day
Ken

ReefWaters

05/12/2006, 09:06 AM

Have you considered adding some solar panels to your roof or a wind turbine or something to counter the electrical bill a little?

loserkidz

05/12/2006, 09:11 PM

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loserkidz

05/12/2006, 09:12 PM

http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3A6%3C4%3C7%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323373549239%3Anu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3A6%3C4%3C7%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D3233735498346nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3A6%3C4%3C7%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D3233735485%3A%3A6nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3A6%3C4%3C7%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D323373549237%3Cnu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3A6%3C4%3C7%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D3233735485%3A%3A%3Anu0mrj

Cprowler

05/12/2006, 09:15 PM

Nice, I like what you did with all the flat rock creating the overhangs, passthroughs and caves.

Very Nice!

NexDog

05/12/2006, 09:27 PM

Very nice indeed! :)

robthorn

05/12/2006, 10:31 PM

awesmoe for us . very nice. the tangs are probably wondering were all the algea went.

Ixthys

05/13/2006, 06:24 AM

Is the rock stacked, or did you fasten it in some way?

Chrisrush

05/13/2006, 07:34 AM

Ixthys stole my question. Did you secure those rocks in anyway?

Looks great otherwise.

loserkidz

05/13/2006, 04:12 PM

Actually all of the rock is stacked, I bought a few cased of epoxy just in case but everything went together nicely. Just remember some of the pieces are actually 1 piece. There are three large tables that have their own pedestal on the bottom which I just grinded flat inorder for them to be more stable. I brought with me around 1200# of Mixed liver rock from my olod system in Cali. The huge tabletops are from Walt and Tat, thanks to them both for helping with these awesome pieces. You know you can't get pieces like that at any store!!!!
Brent Higa
PS
Any of you dallas reefers, I still have around 600#s of Marshall, Tonga and Fiji pieces that I need to trade or sell. I am looking for livestock,fish and also a OZone generator.

minethief

05/13/2006, 04:53 PM

Might be late to comment on it but,...I can't get over that stand. Never thought someone would have a tank that big AND be able to put a sump underneath. I'd cut the wall out in front of my tank if the stand and sump looked that good. Might not look good to everyone, but the true reefers would love it!

john37

05/13/2006, 06:30 PM

man, those rocks are freakin huge.
is all the sand getting pushed away from the front by returns in the back? Maybe you shoulda went BB like me. :D
i'm glad to see your tangs aren't squished in your frag tank anymore. i dont think you received enough flaming from the po po's.
Great set up, and really really love your in wall. Looks so clean, you're gonna have to do mine after i win the lotto. i'll fly you in, soo dont worry about it.

DirtySouth056

05/13/2006, 07:14 PM

This will be T.O.T.M. someday forsure. Everything is just Topnotch! Congrats with everything.

melev

05/14/2006, 03:45 PM

That looks great! So the rock was man-made. You need a few bottles of PurpleUp! ;)

That's the sump I fixed? Glad it is holding water. Not that you could ask for your money back. ;)

Your Durso's run like mine, more full than most people's. The fish look happy in all that space, and I'm happy to see you've got the tank up and running finally. June 10th is our Frag Swap, so you can pick up some pieces for your reef then.

thetedinator

05/14/2006, 06:09 PM

Nice rock and rock work. I got the same base rock from Walt's when I set up my tank last year.

loserkidz

05/15/2006, 06:59 AM

Marc,
the rock is actually from Walt Smith, they are huge shelve pieces that were brought in for a "friend" and these were his left over pieces.
Yep that be the infamous sump, the vlamingi is sure loving his space.
Brent

rppvt

05/19/2006, 01:00 PM

Looks like you've got that OM backed off a little bit as well-- is the pump split off to run anything else?

Chihuahua6

05/19/2006, 01:49 PM

The whole presentation looks great. I like how you did the molding, accenting the tank without detracting from it. It looks like you painted the wall as well. Is this correct?
Do you have front access to the tank? I think you mentioned something about this.

loserkidz

06/07/2006, 08:09 AM

Finally got around to restocking the tank, it is no where near where my old system was, I still have to go pick up some of the corals that made it through the crash. A few DFWMAS members are holding them for me.http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9865373nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9865337nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9865347nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9852%3C97nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9865353nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9865358nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B98688%3B5nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B98688%3B%3Bnu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9865384nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9865386nu0mrj

john37

06/07/2006, 08:37 AM

yay, you're alive. i thought you had fallen into your tank.

get more full tank shots and fix your sig line

thetedinator

06/07/2006, 10:29 AM

Brent,

Looking good! If you go to MACNA, we can trade. I'll bring you some red bugs and monti nudis and you can give some sweet frags!

cya,

Ted

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7514234#post7514234 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by loserkidz
Finally got around to restocking the tank, it is no where near where my old system was, I still have to go pick up some of the corals that made it through the crash. A few DFWMAS members are holding them for me.http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9865373nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9865337nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9865347nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9852%3C97nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9865353nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9865358nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B98688%3B5nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B98688%3B%3Bnu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9865384nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C459%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E677%3E469%3EWSNRCG%3D32337%3B9865386nu0mrj

Konadog

06/07/2006, 03:11 PM

Great comeback Brent!

Ted, always looking out for our fellow club members ;)

loserkidz

06/18/2006, 03:24 AM

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loserkidz

06/18/2006, 03:24 AM

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loserkidz

06/18/2006, 03:25 AM

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onetrickpony

06/18/2006, 06:46 AM

I see you got the new monti in your tank
I really like your rock setup
With all the table tops and ledges
Ken

TCU Reefer

06/18/2006, 08:21 AM

Your aquascaping is amazing! Very natural looking.

How large is your vlamingi?

melev

06/18/2006, 10:31 AM

Current Tanks: 385G FLAT BACK HEX,40G SUMP WITH 29G REFUGIUM,3-400W MH in Lumenarcs AND 440W OF ACTINICS.

Brent, the pictures above and this quote don't quite match. ;)

Btw, the pictures are great. How do you get the sand so flat in the front? :D

loserkidz

06/18/2006, 12:20 PM

Steve the VLamingi is pushing 14" now, he is a big eater and that is the way I like him. I saw your post over on DFWMAS, the Vlamingis are my favorite of the Surgeon fish family, just wait a few years in your huge tank and he will show you his streamers.
Ken,
From your avatar I thought you were the nose picker, my bad!!! I just realized your sig on the bottom. Yep the monti is doing well and very happy in his new home. I just couldn't watch the original owner start to break it up for others I had to give hime a offer he couldn't refuse.
Marc,
My president, if you want to get your front of your sand bed that flat this is what ya do my friend. Hook up a 5800gph pump to a oceans motion 8way and two 6100 streams and you will be set. within seconds of kicking on the pump I had a instant Bare bottom front!!!!!!!!!!
Brent Higa

melev

06/18/2006, 08:03 PM

:lol: I don't think I'll try that.

easye123

06/18/2006, 11:17 PM

hey im from dallas.. just wondering what LFS u go to..?

easye123

06/18/2006, 11:17 PM

hey im from dallas.. just wondering what LFS u go to..?

loserkidz

06/19/2006, 04:06 AM

Most of the corals currently in the tank are from local club members that either are getting out of the hobby or just needed the money. Visit dfwmas.org and they have a map that has all of the local stores. I am new to Texas so I really can't give you any pointers, except for one that is a vendor on here and also on Dfwmas. Total nightmare, you can find other complaints about them on Dfwmas.
Brent Higa

SERVO

06/19/2006, 05:52 PM

WOW!!!!!!!!!!:eek1:

Lookin awesome!

thor32766

06/19/2006, 07:26 PM

gorgeous, love the rock formations!!!!

wrenchhead

06/20/2006, 09:26 PM

awesome tank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

crazyboy

06/21/2006, 08:08 PM

Amazing job! Very very nice aquascaping.

bjmycroft

06/22/2006, 05:56 AM

I really like the rockwork. Im going to have to have a go at making some agrocrete rocks along the lines of the plating rocks you have there - they really do look good :-)

Thats a really nice setup - looking forward to watching it grow on the thread!

-Bob

tedu

06/27/2006, 12:07 AM

Brent,

I'm thinking of stealing your stand design, want the same 'cantilever' so that it's easily made flush with the wall. I assume the construction method used for your house is slab on grade, as is primarily used here in Houston. Did you have any concerns or do anything special for supporting the floor under the 4 legs (footings, etc ) ?

thanks,
Ted

SERVO

06/27/2006, 01:18 PM

You need to update your thread with blurry pictures. I can show you how to take those!!!:D

melev

06/27/2006, 01:19 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7638885#post7638885 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SERVO
You need to update your thread with blurry pictures. I can show you how to take those!!!:D

Yes, I can attest to that. :fun4:

Pacific Reefs

07/10/2006, 12:52 PM

Definitely a flawless setup! I love everything especially the aquascaping. I may have missed it but I don't see a chiller. Any heat issues with the 4x 400s?

Nathan4Wvu

07/10/2006, 03:01 PM

Very Very Very nice tank deff on of the top 10 on RC. I love the rock work!

loserkidz

07/11/2006, 08:53 AM

I defintaely need to get some equipment pics up, I would really like to get some shots of the 8way OM plumbing, I told Scott I would post some when I got a chance.
To answer the question regarding chiller, I have a 1hp in line that I had purchased for my 385g system back in Cali. It comes on for about 5 min at a time, usually about every hour during the summer.
Brent

ERICN

07/11/2006, 12:25 PM

Don't mean to sound ignorant but how did you avoid the cycle ? I see your pics of empty tank on 5/07 then 5/12 the tank has fish swimming in it ? did you using the old sump let you get away with this ?

loserkidz

07/12/2006, 04:10 AM

It's not ignorance, I have heard that question a couple of times in this thread. All of the live rock was being cooked far a couple of months prior to the installation which basically cures the rock. I did bi-weekly water changes on the vats that was cooking the rock to remove any die off. Of course there wer powerheads and such to keep the cirulation going. The big thing that causes your big cycle is the sponges and other animals that die during shipment of the rock, by curing prior(not what the stores tell when the sell you "cured"live rock, which basically they just open and dump the box into their system) you are removing all of the bad contaminents that will usually die off in your brand new system and cause you ammonia spike"cycle". I will try to post some updated pics of the tank. It is basically now stocked with alot of sps pieces and some of my large colonies that made it during the accident.
Brent Higa

ERICN

07/12/2006, 06:46 AM

Thanks for the reply Brent, Your system is amazing hope to be on here in a couple years getting advice on my 300+ gal system as I am running out of room with my 150 now and already working on the wife. I am still a lil confused though I thought all tanks cycled when first set up even if done without liverock sand or anything, until the bacteria started to grow .

john37

07/12/2006, 08:49 AM

brent, i need more pictures FTS, put that nice camera and tripod to use. Too bad you're not 2 minutes away anymore, more like 24 hours. haha

loserkidz

07/12/2006, 10:14 PM

I have yet to see any updated pics of your system since I moved, so you ar eone too talk!!!!!!!!!
Brent

loserkidz

07/18/2006, 10:18 AM

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john37

07/18/2006, 10:20 AM

black piping huh? very nice.
ygpm btw.

loserkidz

07/18/2006, 10:38 AM

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Musicbabe

07/22/2006, 12:25 PM

Now that you're living with your tank, anything you would have done differently? Do you regret not having access from the front?

Architect1

07/22/2006, 03:26 PM

ah ah ah wow beautiful tank nice updating. If only I had the Gs for that wow thats amazing vary beautiful tank. Hope to see more pics later.

loserkidz

07/23/2006, 10:59 AM

Musicbabe, there is access from the front. The 12" panel on top has a ss piano hinge all the way across and opens for feeding and cleaning.
Brent

invincible569

08/14/2006, 07:54 PM

Great job!! You look like one of my friends from High School. I had to take a second look.

ReefWaters

08/16/2006, 08:16 PM

Did you paint the PVC or did you buy it black?

loserkidz

08/17/2006, 09:33 AM

Reef waters,
The PVC is coated with the truck bed liner, I was trying to visually remove the plumbing out of the picture the piping all the way from the OM 8way to the submereged outputs are coated and are holding up perfect even the ones that are in the harsh salt water.
Invincible, your friend must be handsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brent Higa

mathluque

08/17/2006, 12:49 PM

just a word "nice" i am trying to make a tank like that , i hope that at the end , the tank look like yours.

thanks for sharing

david

saurus

09/05/2006, 08:45 PM

Tank update Brent!! How is the new pad, kids, town, job, etc..???

Cheers brotha,

Clint

MikeL152123

09/07/2006, 03:23 PM

I have to say of all the tanks setups i've seen your rock work is probably the best out of them all. I'm sorry if i missed it but how much live sand did you end up using and could you give me some info on your lighting? Thanx and again nice setup

sonofgaladriel

09/07/2006, 05:36 PM

Very very nice indeed. Great job on everything.

Bax

09/07/2006, 08:00 PM

Very nice! So, you can use auto undercoating in the water? Is there a curing time? ... That 8-way looks awesome!

loserkidz

09/08/2006, 07:12 AM

Mike I ended up dumping 5-40sacs of caribseafloor grade, but as you see from the pics the front half is bare bottom due to the flow. I actually was going to go with barebottom, but I have a thing for wrasses and ya need sand for them to sleep. As for the lighting it consists of the four L3 lumenars with two 20k helios and 2 14k hamis all 400w.
Thanks for the compliments sonofgabriel, it means alot coming from you!!
Bax,
It isn't the ruberized undercoating at the parts store, that smells bad and looks to be tar or petroleum based. The coating I used was the bedliner spray, which dried pretty fast. I can only say I haven't had any ill affects, I work for a paint manufacturer and have used alot in the past some of our pool paints for different reasons(eg. plumbing parts sch40) to make them blend in with the surrounding structures. Never had a problem!!!
Brent Higa

MikeL152123

09/11/2006, 12:53 PM

When are we going to see some updated pics!!!!???

loserkidz

09/11/2006, 04:50 PM

I hooked up a Network cam: http://66.190.98.242 and tanks specs from my lighthouse controller is http://66.190.98.242:8008

I will try to get some pics this weekend!!!
Brent Higa

loserkidz

09/30/2006, 08:25 AM

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melev

09/30/2006, 11:18 AM

Those can't be the right pictures. Where are your corals?

SERVO

10/01/2006, 09:33 AM

I took them all and put them into my tank! :D

extinguishfire

10/01/2006, 01:03 PM

Why? What happened?

loserkidz

10/03/2006, 01:10 AM

I had a problem with the web host, I will try to re upload the pics when I get home in the moring.
Brent

loserkidz

10/03/2006, 07:35 AM

loserkidz

10/03/2006, 07:37 AM

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Chrisrush

10/03/2006, 07:42 AM

Holy gigantic pictures Brent.

I ran into Eric from ********** at MACNA, he was a little surprised that you weren't there. I told him that we might be ordering from him in the future.

loserkidz

10/03/2006, 09:46 AM

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