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TacoKing
03/21/2006, 11:56 AM
So, I've bit the bullet. I had been thinking of giving Zeovit a whril for a couple months now and finally decided to go for it. My stuff should be here tomorrow. I'm going to start taking pictures of all corals and see what kind of changes happen. I'll keep everyone up todate on it.
-Rob
Great! I was debating on that but wanted to see some progress from someone local. Hope it turns out well!
hollback
03/21/2006, 02:33 PM
What all did you get?
zaireguy
03/21/2006, 02:33 PM
I also have tossed it around.Looking forward to seeing how things go
TacoKing
03/21/2006, 02:41 PM
*sigh* do you really want to know what I bought?
I plan on making the zeovit reactor out of PVC, shouldn't cost more than $30 in parts. But additives... that's a different story. The cost in the system is quite high, so I'm hoping the returns are worth it. I lost a lot of color in my corals when I did a flatworm exit treatment a little while ago. I had way to many flatworms and the toxins did a number. I'm really helping going the Zeovit route will help bring those colors back a little quicker.
ZEOvit 1liter
ZEObak 50 ml
ZEOfood 7 100ml
ZEOstart2 250ml
Pohl's Coral Vitalizer 100ml
Amino Acids High Concentrate 100ml
Pohl's K-Balance Potassium mix Small 250ml
hollback
03/21/2006, 03:28 PM
Awesome. Come dose my tank too.
szwab
03/21/2006, 03:36 PM
hey Rob give us a tank shot now, for a reference pic.
then do a pictorial week by week or month by month.
TacoKing
03/21/2006, 03:38 PM
szwab, that's the idea. I'm going to do weekly shots of the tank and some special individual corals. Should have the first tank shot up later tonight.. Just got home and i"m off to do some tank cleaning :)
szwab
03/21/2006, 03:40 PM
cool!
I'll be sitting at my keyboard waiting for th pic and listening to some Jazz here at work tonight
But if your coral lost color due to a treatment how will you be able to say it is indeed the zeo that made everything take a turn for the better?
hollback
03/21/2006, 04:12 PM
That's what I was going to try to put in a sarcastic way George. Having a tank with a bunch of browned out corals and having them color up will not prove anything to the ZEO skeptics. A better subject would be my tank that has color. Let's see if ZEO makes my color more intense. I would be interested in adding only...
- Pohl's Coral Vitalizer
- Amino Acids High Concentrate
Would this affect my color?
jh2pizza
03/21/2006, 05:33 PM
I never experienced any coral change with flat worm exit before, but I only dosed one time and it worked just as advertised. What is Zeo?
hollback
03/21/2006, 07:23 PM
Zeovit...
http://www.yahoo.com/
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7007664#post7007664 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by geo
But if your coral lost color due to a treatment how will you be able to say it is indeed the zeo that made everything take a turn for the better?
I thought the same thing. Good points by both of you.
But I would think that Taco would be able to tell if they look better than they do now And/Or than they did before the FE treatment. Hopefully he gives us the honest answer. :p :) I still wouldnt mind trying the CV and AA so I'm anxious to here how this goes for you. And to see updated pics. :)
I never experienced any coral change with flat worm exit before, but I only dosed one time and it worked just as advertised
Same here. But I only dosed one time and the standard amount also. I was infested with flatworms a couple of years ago but pretty much cleaned them out of my tank doing daily water changes, blowing them off and sucking them out. After they were almost gone I dosed FE 1 time, the end.
Jordan55
03/21/2006, 07:27 PM
Does FE harm anything? I.e. macro algae, sea horses, inverts, or rock?
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7009599#post7009599 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hollback
Zeovit...
http://www.********.com/
Dude, no linking to other forums ;)
I would be doing an edit if I could :lol:
Rob,
I was not trying to sound short in the above post about color, just asking the question. I certainly hope all goes well for you with the zeovit.
TacoKing
03/21/2006, 08:47 PM
FWE does not directly harm anything, it's the toxins from the flatworms that cause the problem. I was infested. Millions, billions, zillions. I siphoned for a good 30 minutes but there were still a ton in the rock work. So, it wasn't the Flatworm Exit that caused the problems it was the toxins from the dead planaria, but that's a whole different subject.
My tank has been up for over a year now and I pretty much know what kind of colors it's capable of producing. Though the colors might not be the best due to the FW problem, I think I'll easily be able to tell if Zeovit actually did an improvment or not.
I was originaly going to first start off with CV and AAHC run that for a few months then switch over to full Zeovit but after thinking about it a little bit; by going Zeovit I will be turning off my ozone (which I like for health reasons) and removing phosban (expensive in itself) which I think are "bandaids".
I've found a lot of pretty scientific research over on that other site that explain why the Zeovit and specifically Prodibio (which is a basic Zeovit copy without the wide level support) systems work. If anyone wants to read it, PM me and I'll try and point you in the right direction.
As far as the tank picture... Not going to happen tonight. I stirred up too much sand while sucking up junk and my closed loops are just keeping it suspended. I'll try and turn the lights on tomorrow morning before I head to work.
I could delete the link but why bother ? The info from a hobbyist trying out new techniques is always worthwhile.
I'd rather see a post stating how much these additives cost.
The cost in the system is quite high
seandanekind
03/21/2006, 09:38 PM
Hey Taco-
I can bring my light meter next week and get readings on changes in light level (thus water clarity) at various depths over time.
hollback
03/21/2006, 09:49 PM
Woops. Sorry. :(
zaireguy
03/22/2006, 06:36 AM
I priced out for a 120 with a 75 sump,I was told around $275 to start...from the other site
TacoKing
03/22/2006, 07:31 AM
Sean, that's actually a pretty good idea. I'll be interested in the results once I turn off the ozone. When I started using ozone a few years ago I noticed a dramatic change in clarity of the water. It'll be neat to see if Zeovit can do the same.
As far as costs.. I'm estimating roughly $80-100 a month. Now that sure seems high, but I do have a lot of water volume. Between the 280gal tank, 100gal sump, 50gal frag tank and 55gal refuge; it adds up. I'm by far at the extreme end, so anything I do with my tank is going to cost a good bit of money. On a smaller size system Zeovit becomes a bit more cost effective.
Here's some tank pictures.. About 25% of my corals are downstairs in my frag tank right now. I'm going to be redoing my rockwork a bit this weekend so I moved them down there.
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<img src="http://www.usrhome.com/tank/dsc_0833.jpg"><br>
<img src="http://www.usrhome.com/tank/dsc_0835.jpg"><br>
<img src="http://www.usrhome.com/tank/dsc_0837.jpg"><br>
<img src="http://www.usrhome.com/tank/dsc_0840.jpg"><br></center>
cward
03/22/2006, 06:52 PM
Keep us updated Rob. I'm curious to see how this turns out. The only thing I think is goofy about the zeovit method is the amount of water changes that are needed, which in itself is going to lower the amount of nutrients in the water, create better water clarity, etc....
szwab
03/22/2006, 10:38 PM
that is my first thought on the system as well. the water changes keep a more maintenance intense schedule. which should improve water quality. so Iam curious to see if the improvements will be more than expected from just water changes.
TacoKing
03/23/2006, 07:06 AM
I already do 55gal water changes every week. So, that's not going to change anything. There's no way i'm going to be doing more than 55gal a week, that's just crazy talk! :)
cward
03/23/2006, 07:13 AM
You do 55g a week or every other week?
TacoKing
03/23/2006, 07:28 AM
Typically every week. It might be 10 days max between the changes.
TacoKing
03/24/2006, 08:00 AM
Everything came yesterday. It sure was a small box for the cost....... So, I was off to Lowes to build me a Zeovit reactor. Two trips later and $30 in parts I had myself a reactor.
The Mag 3 pumps into the bottom of the reactor where it hits a 90. The 90 connects to a peice of 1/2" PVC with a bunch of holes drilled in it, especially towards the bottom.
<img src="http://www.usrhome.com/zeovit/dsc_0844.jpg">
The plunger slides over the 1/2" PVC and has larger holes in it to allow the flow to go over the rocks easily. The 3/4" plunger has a cap on the top to force the water out through rocks.
<img src="http://www.usrhome.com/zeovit/dsc_0845.jpg">
<img src="http://www.usrhome.com/zeovit/dsc_0846.jpg">
The reactor sits in the sump and overflows out the top of the reactor right back down into the sump. Easy, simple, cheap.
And finally the pictures of the Zeovit!
<img src="http://www.usrhome.com/zeovit/dsc_0850.jpg"
<img src="http://www.usrhome.com/zeovit/dsc_0848.jpg">
-Rob
szwab
03/24/2006, 08:02 AM
looks like you are set when are you going to offiially start?
TacoKing
03/24/2006, 08:16 AM
Hopefully this weekend. I'm going to redo my rockwork a bit. I want to add some of the large Carib-Sea reef bones rocks and some other base rocks. Then I'm going to add some new corals to the display and switch over to Zeovit.
I'll take pics as I go along :)
szwab
04/13/2006, 12:22 AM
any updates?
cward
04/13/2006, 05:51 AM
Nice avatar Mark :lol:
TacoKing
04/13/2006, 11:21 AM
Well....... I can't be 100% sure zeovit is working or not... Here's the scoop.
Before I started zeo, I moved all my corals from my tank down to my frag tank. I redid my rockwork in my tank and my corals sat in my frag tank under a 10k 400w XM bulb. They have been in there since zeovit started about 3 weeks ago. I was planning on only keeping them down there for a week or so, but I ended up having some surgery last week and have been pretty much restricted to my leather chair in front of my TV.
In the past three weeks 3 of my corals have shown some amazing changes, that could or couldn't be attributed to zeovit. I had a couple blue tipped stags that had a brown/green base. The tips were bright blue, but the color would receed down to a darker color after the growth tips. Since being put in the frag tank and zeo begun the whole coral has become the color of the growth tips, bright bright blue. I can get some pics tonight, but they are still in the frag tank.
-Rob
cfishrun
04/13/2006, 02:04 PM
Hmmm... So it is going to be awfully hard to determine the direct effects of the Zeovit. Moving the corals to the frag tank removed most of the "control" behind your experiment. Maybe we can pull our knowledge together and assign certain changes to new environmental parameters (e.g. lighting - which is likely different), or possibly even rule them out (e.g. water chemistry - which shouldn't be different). Can you elaborate on the specifics of the main tank's parameters vs. the frag tank's (lighting, water motion, positioning in the tank, etc.)? Thanks
~Aaron
szwab
04/13/2006, 02:54 PM
i guess once you move them back you could see if they fade back to the way they were.?
jh2pizza
04/14/2006, 01:10 PM
I have a great idea. Bring it over to my tank and I will let you try it out here. It always looks bad, so if it improves at all, we will know.
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