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bluerug
05/04/2006, 04:51 PM
I am new to this forum and have no idea how to post pics, could someone plz tell me how. so i can post pics of my beatiful blue carpet anemone.

ClownReef®
05/04/2006, 04:55 PM
www.photobucket.com

Upload pictures....post Link here......Done!

oh, and welcome to RC!

Amphiprion
05/04/2006, 04:59 PM
Welcome to Reef Central.

Freed
05/04/2006, 05:00 PM
[welcome]

bluerug
05/04/2006, 06:54 PM
Do i have to go to photobuckett

jjackson
05/04/2006, 06:56 PM
yes and you will need to upload your photos to their hosting site..

bluerug
05/04/2006, 06:59 PM
Wow how in the world do i do that.

bluerug
05/04/2006, 07:11 PM
Wow i hope i got it, i think this is it, here you go, tell me what you think. i have no idea what order they are.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j281/blue_carpet/IM000903.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j281/blue_carpet/IM000905.jpg

bluerug
05/04/2006, 07:14 PM
yes got it.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j281/blue_carpet/IM000890.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j281/blue_carpet/IM000912.jpg

bluerug
05/04/2006, 07:16 PM
See i have no idea what order they are in forgive me.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j281/blue_carpet/IM000890.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j281/blue_carpet/IM000912.jpg

bluerug
05/04/2006, 07:17 PM
See double posted.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j281/blue_carpet/IM000890.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j281/blue_carpet/IM000912.jpg

bluerug
05/04/2006, 07:19 PM
Look see i cant figure it out.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j281/blue_carpet/IM000890.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j281/blue_carpet/IM000912.jpg

bluerug
05/04/2006, 07:19 PM
see i have no idea how to do it, and i have so many nice ones to show you guys.

bluerug
05/04/2006, 07:22 PM
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bluerug
05/04/2006, 07:23 PM
kinda gettin better.
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bluerug
05/04/2006, 07:24 PM
Yes i got the ones where he is eating. So what do you think.

bluerug
05/04/2006, 07:25 PM
oh he has allready tried to eat the firefish but it is just to fast for him,lol.

bluerug
05/04/2006, 07:28 PM
i dont want to post anymore pics in case i double post or triple post again,lol.

bluerug
05/04/2006, 07:40 PM
What do you think. Dont leave me hangin.

55semireef
05/04/2006, 08:11 PM
Nice...

ezhoops
05/04/2006, 08:41 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7306210#post7306210 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
What do you think. Dont leave me hangin.

I think or should say guarantee your going to need a much larger tank, Carpets and Nano's don't mix.

Good luck

Fishfreak218
05/04/2006, 08:48 PM
and better lighintg.. if that is stock lighting.. and it looks like a very new tank.. but what do i know..
can you tell us a little bit more about ur tank??
but from your sig. you seem to know what your doing

ClownReef®
05/04/2006, 10:31 PM
Yep, lots and lots of light..To be honest, I dont think its gonna last long in that nano..JMO

coraldude
05/04/2006, 10:51 PM
carppets are the hardest to keep,. and should be bout with haste. due to they ***** ship poor.

they do need high light and good water.

if its mouth starts gapeing open , chances are u will lose it

good luck

ClownReef®
05/04/2006, 11:02 PM
I agree with coraldude.

bluerug
05/05/2006, 04:37 AM
oh you mortals, you have no idea. my water parms are perfect, my carpet is perfect as you can see by the pics, and yes he will make it, dont mean to sound rude but please leave those type of opinions to yourself about losing live stock, for i know what i am doing, i have an aquapod 24 with mh's that when he gets big enough i am moving him into, as you can see he likes to eat and is very sticky, eating, very sticky, equals very healthy.

ClownReef®
05/05/2006, 08:08 AM
Then if you dont want to hear criticism dont post anything.

reefer_for_life
05/05/2006, 08:13 AM
yea, dont ask for opinions, then get mad when you get them.

dantodd
05/05/2006, 08:23 AM
I wouldn't bother with the 24.

coraldude
05/05/2006, 08:24 AM
this in not my opion , these are facks . they do ship poor and they need lot of light and good water , and if it mouth is gapeing it may die,, is there anything rude in there ,, i did not say it was going to die for sure, but i think the the smallest tank for these are at least 30 gallons or more. but if u do take this the wrong way, maybe it will die. lol

ps welcome to rc

best
coralseas

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7307323#post7307323 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coraldude
carppets are the hardest to keep,. and should be bout with haste. due to they ***** ship poor.

they do need high light and good water.

if its mouth starts gapeing open , chances are u will lose it

good luck

ClownReef®
05/05/2006, 08:38 AM
I think you are all a bunch of mortals!! water parameter do NOT fluctuate MORE on smaller tanks and his tank has enought light!!..LOL

(of course those are a bunch of lies :D)

This is not one of your local reef clubs bluecarpet, welcome to the real world.

bluerug
05/05/2006, 11:38 AM
Well maybe if you guys could spell i would be able to understand you. I left another site b/c all i got over there was bashing and people tell me my stuff is going to die. I have been in this hobby long enough to know what can work and what can not. And i know for sure that this carpet will survive in this tank for a long time, in fact it will be ok in there until it outgrows the system. It is not that i dont like opinions it is that i do not like unhonest opinions, the fact is you guys and gals know nothing about my system, and the only person that can say water parms are fine is me and no one but me. You are entitled to your own opinions, but try to make them justified. Now lets all have a nice time and not get to mad or frustrated, that is not why i joined. Now back to the comments, but justified and as honest as they can be. Also i had a green carpet which was about the same size that lived in the very same nano for about a year then i moved him to my lagoon. Which i will post pics when i get a better camera.

bluerug
05/05/2006, 11:40 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7308760#post7308760 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by iReef69
I think you are all a bunch of mortals!! water parameter do NOT fluctuate MORE on smaller tanks and his tank has enought light!!..LOL

(of course those are a bunch of lies :D)

This is not one of your local reef clubs bluecarpet, welcome to the real world.
Reef clubs are where i have gained a whole lot of information about anything and everything that has to deal with reef tanks. Oh and by the way natural blue carpets are much more hardier of a species than the dyed ones, which this one is naturally blue.

bluerug
05/05/2006, 11:41 AM
Oh and thank you guys for the nice warm welcome.

bluerug
05/05/2006, 12:09 PM
By the way the blue carpet does fine under 4-6 watts per gallon conditions, with trace elements of calcium and iodine.

bluerug
05/05/2006, 12:12 PM
Plus with the presence of my two percs in the tank, the anemone has acclimated rather fast and well, the clowns really know how to make an anemone feel at home.

angelsj247
05/05/2006, 12:29 PM
congrats.. maybe i will try getting a carpet for my 20 gal.. they are soo pretty..

bluerug
05/05/2006, 12:33 PM
Thank you, they are fantastic creatures. What is your 20 gallon like, lighting, water parms, how long has it been set up, etc. I will help you with anything you need to know. They do like 4-6 watts per gallon of lighting, not to much overflow, but before i get into depth what is your set-up like?

angelsj247
05/05/2006, 12:39 PM
i havent order my lights yet but i want to get this kind.. is this ok?
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produ...A&N=2004+113345
i havent read much into corals yet.. wanted to start them over the summer maybe so ill be reading into it very soon.. all parameters are fine except my nitrates are always bout 20-30 ppm. i have 5lbs live rock.. will be getting 15 more by next month.. and its been set up for about 3-4 months now. o i have one powerhead only 145gph.. how much should i have gph?

Toddrtrex
05/05/2006, 01:04 PM
I feel that a 20 is way too small for a carpet. Plus, IME, not a good choice for a first anemone, a BTA would be better. However, I would still suggest a bigger tank.

The link didn't work.

For lights, I feel that using watts/gallon isn't a great guideline. It doesn't take into account the actual size of the tank. (mainly height).

angelsj247
05/05/2006, 01:07 PM
oopss.. lets try this
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=12109&ref=3969&cm_mmc=LiveAquaria_DFS_Links-_-Fish_Supplies-_-LiveAquaria_Gen_Page-_-Lighting&subref=AA&N=2004+113345

bluerug
05/05/2006, 01:13 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7310226#post7310226 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by angelsj247
i havent order my lights yet but i want to get this kind.. is this ok?
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produ...A&N=2004+113345
i havent read much into corals yet.. wanted to start them over the summer maybe so ill be reading into it very soon.. all parameters are fine except my nitrates are always bout 20-30 ppm. i have 5lbs live rock.. will be getting 15 more by next month.. and its been set up for about 3-4 months now. o i have one powerhead only 145gph.. how much should i have gph?
IMO you will need to wait at least another 3-4 months before getting an anemone, if you dont know much about corals do not, do not get a carpet anemone, chances are you will loose it. As far as not being big enough, that is incorrect you could keep a small carpet in a 20 gallon for a while but not long term, i plan on keeping mine in the 12 for another 7-8 months, then moving him to his permanent home the 24, where he will live happily ever after. lol

bluerug
05/05/2006, 01:15 PM
Me personally i do not like coralife lights, i prefer jbj lighting. imo it is much better of a product and suggest you look into their product.

angelsj247
05/05/2006, 01:15 PM
which light should i get.. which would would be better in the end.. my tank is 30 " long and this one only has a 24" which from what i heard i could work with
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=12772&N=2004+113175
or is the other one i posted better? anyone know?

Fishfreak218
05/05/2006, 01:59 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7309832#post7309832 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
Well maybe if you guys could spell i would be able to understand you. I left another site b/c all i got over there was bashing and people tell me my stuff is going to die. I have been in this hobby long enough to know what can work and what can not. And i know for sure that this carpet will survive in this tank for a long time, in fact it will be ok in there until it outgrows the system. It is not that i dont like opinions it is that i do not like unhonest opinions, the fact is you guys and gals know nothing about my system, and the only person that can say water parms are fine is me and no one but me. You are entitled to your own opinions, but try to make them justified. Now lets all have a nice time and not get to mad or frustrated, that is not why i joined. Now back to the comments, but justified and as honest as they can be. Also i had a green carpet which was about the same size that lived in the very same nano for about a year then i moved him to my lagoon. Which i will post pics when i get a better camera.
No one said you had bad lighting or bad water quality.. we may have said.. "if that was stock lighting" or something like that... chill.. we werent flaming you.. just some people were saying some facts so that you know...(which apparently you do)... :)
good day
-josh

bluerug
05/05/2006, 02:01 PM
Even with the stock lighting this anemone would be ok. Hey but guess what we both have the same name,lol. I am sorry if i took it as if you guys were bashing me,but it just sounded like you were.

angelsj247
05/05/2006, 02:08 PM
never heard of jbj lighting.. do you have a site where i can look at it?

bluerug
05/05/2006, 02:09 PM
i sure do.
http://www.jbjlighting.com/index.html

dantodd
05/05/2006, 02:37 PM
Angelsj,

I would strongly suggest you start another thread to discuss your own plans if you are looking for input from very experienced reefers.

Bluecarpet has taken a stance and been rude to the first posters who were trying to share their experiences. This means that most of the more experienced anemone keepers on this site will not see your questions.

Bluecarpet -- Before suggesting that you have troubles reading the posts of others on this board because of their spelling you should really improve your own grasp of spelling and/or grammar depending upon which you'd like to blame for your own errors.

55semireef
05/05/2006, 02:40 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7309848#post7309848 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
Reef clubs are where i have gained a whole lot of information about anything and everything that has to deal with reef tanks. Oh and by the way natural blue carpets are much more hardier of a species than the dyed ones, which this one is naturally blue.

lol

Toddrtrex
05/05/2006, 02:41 PM
Ditto.
I will glady answer your questions in another thread.

[Edit, the ditto was for DanTodd's post]

Fishfreak218
05/05/2006, 02:48 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7310814#post7310814 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
Even with the stock lighting this anemone would be ok. Hey but guess what we both have the same name,lol. I am sorry if i took it as if you guys were bashing me,but it just sounded like you were.
LOL,
ya thats the problem with talking over the computer (IM, Email, forums, etc.) you never know how things can be read.. i may be joking but the other person might read it the wrong way...

bluerug
05/05/2006, 09:08 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7311132#post7311132 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Fishfreak218
LOL,
ya thats the problem with talking over the computer (IM, Email, forums, etc.) you never know how things can be read.. i may be joking but the other person might read it the wrong way...
could not agree more.

Ken-21
05/06/2006, 05:45 AM
Does photobucket charge a fee?

bluerug
05/06/2006, 06:13 AM
nope.

bluerug
05/08/2006, 04:03 PM
has anyone ever had a carpet anemone split on them before. Please let me know if there is anyone out there that has.

55semireef
05/08/2006, 04:05 PM
I doubt it. Like you said earlier, "carpet anemones have a mind of their own."

phender
05/08/2006, 05:54 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7327668#post7327668 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
has anyone ever had a carpet anemone split on them before. Please let me know if there is anyone out there that has.

There was a pic of a S. gigantea in one of the Julian Sprung books that appeared to be splitting. I saw a S. mertensii in a holding tank once that two oral disks/mouths attached to the same foot. I appeared to be in the process. I don't know if it was the result of injury or what.

Someone on this forum posted an account with pictures of his haddoni forming a bud which developed into another anemone, but after 6 months or so still hadn't completely separated at the base.

I had a blue haddoni that seemed to be forming a bud, but a clownfish forced its way though the small opening and made a rip in the anemone from which it didn't recover. The bud started on top and then inverted itself and popped out the bottom. Sorry the pics aren't the best.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/512/67981gBudGrowth.jpg

sushiking
05/08/2006, 10:42 PM
Beautiful carpet anemone! Mine is green...but the blue is much more striking in appearance.

bluerug
05/09/2006, 02:43 PM
Thank you sushi, and thanks for the pics of the bud that was on the blue, looks very interesting. That is my next goal of mine to buy a whole lot of carpets (30-45) and hope they begin to split. Hopefully the goal will become true.

bluerug
05/10/2006, 04:42 AM
What must it be like to be the underdog all your life? Well the only true person and also a horse would be Seabiscuit and Gatsby, Gatsby from The Great Gatsby and Seabiscuit from Seabiscuit. Both who have overcome so much and almost obtained the joy and happiness everyone should feel whether it be man or animal. For the both of them changed the underdogs in the United States forever. It is unbelievable the obstacles this horse and man had to overcome to make their dreams come true. For one it was to win races and lift America while the other was to get the girl of his dreams.
This horse and man had to be one of the greatest underdog stories that was during the early 19th century in the United States, and I am not just saying that Gatsby and Seabiscuit changed people's lives for ever and showed people nothing is impossible if you put your mind to it. This is where the name champion was made. A lame horse, now if you said that to someone who knew about horses they would tell you to put the horse down well in fact Seabiscuit was a lame horse and look at how he turned out to be, one of the best racing horses ever, and as in Gatsby's case as well turned out to be one of the wealthiest people in America, but he paid the price with his life unlike Seabiscuit. Even though the both of them might have been lame to start out, both ended up being one of the greatest race horse ever and the other being one of the most successful people in America.
No matter how fame or fortune gets to you, you still have your old roots to which you go back to and don't forget. Gatsby and Seabiscuit did not forget where they came from, for if they did they would have not been nearly as successful as they were in the end. Gatsby could have easily let fortune get to his head, but if it were not for his goal which was to get Daisy he would have easily gone off into no man's land and end up probably as a rich old drunk. For Seabiscuit though it was the people around him that kept him going and in return Seabiscuit kept them going, such as Tom Smith, Red Pollard, and Charles Howard. Seabiscuit brought new life to these people and millions of others around America, and also brought new life to himself.(Bucknell University Studies, Vol. 111, No. 3.)
Odds stacked against you. Jay Gatsby was just an average man in the military trying to get a pretty rich girl that was beyond his reach and he knew that, and knew that he had to make some money in order to get the girl of his dreams, whether it be gain that wealth by breaking the law or doing it by the law, he just knew he had to get it quick and fast, and he did just that. It took him a mere 5 years to gain his wealth and when he did that his one goal was to get united with his first love Daisy. He does get united with Daisy through a special friend he met at his party he through to try and grab Daisy's attention, named Nick Carraway. But finally when Jay did get back the love of his dreams, Daisy knew that she could not be with him, but in fact had to be with a person that beat her and not treat her like a lady she was, which Jay would have treated her like one. Which in turn ends in a tragedy, Jay Gatsby pays the ultimate price of love and that is his life, for one thing only and that is true love.(Reference Guide to American Literature, 3rd ed.)
Small, lame, broken leg, what more must I say for a horse not to race anymore, talk about odds stacked up against you. This was Seabiscuit's case of the odds stacked up against him. First of all for a horse to be lame that normally means your career as racing is pretty much done and will never be able to race again. But in this mighty horse's case he took it as a challenge and went on with it, and never looked back. Becoming one of the best race horses's ever to race in the sport, along with the greats such as War Admiral who Seabiscuit beat by a long shot, and Man of War,etc.( Michael Wilmington, Chicago Tribune.) With all the bad luck Seabiscuit has seen through his life he still accomplished the best of the best and that is being the best racing horse in the world, so if he could do it, anyone can. Even though being the underdog and under sized to race he proved to everyone that nothing is impossible.( Carrie rickey, Philadelphia Inquirer.)
Underdog-One that is at a disadvantage. Jay Gatsby and Seabiscuit proved that there is no such thing as an underdog. And proved this by accomplishing the things they did in the short amount of time the two had. Even though you may be considered the weakling or the little guy with no money, you still have the chance to change all that with hard work and dedication which Seabiscuit and Jay Gatsby had. With the right team behind you (or person as in Gatsby's case, Nick Carraway) anything is possible and you just need that one little push to get the ball rolling and have success. So to call someone an underdog just because of their appearance or how much money they have is not justified and as fast as you can blink your eye's that underdog might end up being your boss one day or being the President of the United States. At one point in our lives everyone is an underdog, and its then when you see your true colors, and see if you act like Seabiscuit or Jay.

bluerug
05/10/2006, 04:44 AM
Works cited


Hillenbrand, Laura. Seabiscuit. New York: Random House, 2004. 1-256.


Fitzgerald, Scott F. The Great Gatsby. Chicago: Scribner, 1995. 14-214.


Kamp, Jim. "Reference Guide to American Literature." Rev. of The Great Gatsby.


Maurer, Robert E. "Unfinished Novel." Rev. of The Great Gatsby.


Rickey, Carrie. "Spirited Seabiscuit Beats the Odds." Rev. of Seabiscuit.


Wilmington, Michael. "Seabiscuit." Chicago Tribune 23 July 2003.

keefsama2003
05/10/2006, 05:21 AM
i have had carpets the last 3 years and a 12g tank just wont do. the carpet will get big and eat all the fish in the tank then start polluting the water with waste byproducts from the feedings. i have never attempted anything other than MH lighting either but dont know why the WPG thing is always mentioned. with creatures like this unfortunately more light is better.

in the long run a carpet should be in nothing less than a 55 to make it happy in my eyes. but my carpet was cramped in a 90.

take it for what you will but long term success will be very difficult in smaller tanks.

bluerug
05/10/2006, 11:23 AM
I think i have mentioned that i do realize it will not be happy as it would want to be in the 12 gallon dlx and that is why iam moving it to my lagoon as i mentioned, but thanks anyways for your input.I to know a lot about carpets as well, could you please post some pics of your carpets for me, thank you.

bluerug
05/10/2006, 11:34 AM
Normally four to six watts per gallon of water will be important to help your's and my Carpet Anemone's maintain their good health. Trust me i know, i have done extensive research on these organisms and realize people would like to by them. IMO these anemone's are somewhat easy to take care of and by no means are for experts only. Yes people will tell you to start out with a bubble tip, but imo if you want a carpet and have the money to do so and have at least 4 watts per gallon go ahead and go for it. A challenge not taken is a loss of new experience.

55semireef
05/10/2006, 04:11 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7339911#post7339911 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
I think i have mentioned that i do realize it will not be happy as it would want to be in the 12 gallon dlx and that is why iam moving it to my lagoon as i mentioned, but thanks anyways for your input.I to know a lot about carpets as well, could you please post some pics of your carpets for me, thank you.

I would love to see pics of your lagoon. I am sure you have tons to share with us. Now that you know how to post pics, I would love to see them.

dantodd
05/10/2006, 04:14 PM
lol

bluerug
05/10/2006, 04:55 PM
You think its funny, well pictures speak louder than words my friend. And patience is a virtue, use it. Also i have stated that i am waiting until i get a much better camera.

aquamanco
05/10/2006, 04:56 PM
A. Calfo talked about cutting them in half.

dantodd
05/10/2006, 05:15 PM
no, not that. I'm laughing at you having a conversation with yourself.
You do know that IP addresses are tracked, right?

bluerug
05/10/2006, 05:31 PM
gotcha, i do kinda post really quick after one another, my bad, lol.

ACBlinky
05/11/2006, 07:48 AM
What's with the school paper on The Great Gatsby? I haven't had my coffee yet, this thread is very confusing :confused:

NewSchool04
05/11/2006, 10:33 AM
You are wrong bluecarpet. You need to do more research on what you buy and stop giving advice to people that are new.
Buying animals and putting them in a no win situation is not a "challenge" it's just plain irresponsible.

ACBlinky
05/11/2006, 11:36 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7334052#post7334052 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
Thank you sushi, and thanks for the pics of the bud that was on the blue, looks very interesting. That is my next goal of mine to buy a whole lot of carpets (30-45) and hope they begin to split. Hopefully the goal will become true. JMO, but that's probably not feasable. Where on earth would you put 45 carpets? You'd need at least a thousand gallons and a monster lighting system - coupled with the cost of the anemones, that would be an insane amount of money for what sounds like an experiment...

hagfish
05/11/2006, 12:24 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7346445#post7346445 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NewSchool04
You are wrong bluecarpet. You need to do more research on what you buy and stop giving advice to people that are new.
Buying animals and putting them in a no win situation is not a "challenge" it's just plain irresponsible.

I have to agree here. The carpet is an aggressive anemone that will eat live fish that it can catch. It pretty much grows to the size of a 20 gallon or so tank. In about 2 years of reading this and other forums frequently I have NEVER heard anyone say that a carpet anemone was easy to keep.

You are suggesting a low-medium amount of light of 4-6 wpg (and even mentioned that the stock lighting in your tank would be fine) when most consider this to be a high light demanding anemone. You are also suggesting to someone on here who doesn't even know about corals yet that they put one of these into their 20 gallon. Don't you think it would be wise to explain how big and aggressive this thing gets? You say you will move yours to a 24, wow, it will really be able to spread out in there. :rolleyes:

I am also curious how you plan to manage keeping 30-45 carpet anemone's in your possesion.

I agree that it is probably possible to keep a carpet in a nano tank that is at least big enough to contain the full sized anemone. But I think that would be a pretty difficult task for the average reefer. Plus, it's so big it amost has to be a species only tank.

bluerug
05/11/2006, 12:29 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7346445#post7346445 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NewSchool04
You are wrong bluecarpet. You need to do more research on what you buy and stop giving advice to people that are new.
Buying animals and putting them in a no win situation is not a "challenge" it's just plain irresponsible.
Freedom of speech at it's best. Well in fact you are very wrong. My organism is in a win-win situation, if you live in florida you are more than welcome to come and see my lagoon in person and then maybe you would change your mind. I have done extensive research on these organism's and knows what needs to be done in order to secure their healthy and long lived lives. So please before you jump to conclusions about telling me iam wrong, and think about what you need to do and say. And meaning challenge overall anemones are a challenge to keep and hopefully most people will agree with me on that. And who are you to judge me, in all honesty.

ps: i had to do that for my son so he could print it out at school b/c you can not access your email from school.

bluerug
05/11/2006, 12:35 PM
I hear where you are coming from hagfish, but in the end when big enough the blue will be in my lagoon. You do realize these things to not grow to 2 and half feet over night, right?:rolleyes: Well hopefully you do, you can control to some degree on how fast your carpet will grow, by feedings and what not. The more you feed the bigger it will become, the less you feed the slower it will grow. Once again i am not a so called newb when it comes to this kind of work. If a "new person" (as the others have called you) has any questions just give me a shout and i will tell you all you need to know. And to say 6 watts is on the low end of the spectrum is just insane of a thing to say.

hagfish
05/11/2006, 01:23 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7347152#post7347152 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
I hear where you are coming from hagfish, but in the end when big enough the blue will be in my lagoon. You do realize these things to not grow to 2 and half feet over night, right?:rolleyes: Well hopefully you do, you can control to some degree on how fast your carpet will grow, by feedings and what not. The more you feed the bigger it will become, the less you feed the slower it will grow. Once again i am not a so called newb when it comes to this kind of work. If a "new person" (as the others have called you) has any questions just give me a shout and i will tell you all you need to know. And to say 6 watts is on the low end of the spectrum is just insane of a thing to say.

First, I said 4-6 wpg (which came from you originally). Second, I said low-medium.

Considering 4-6 wpg is usually attainable with PC's and/or VHO's, I think it's risky to say that is going to be enough. Let's picture the average newbie with their 55 gallon tank and 220 watt Jebo PC fixture. I don't think that light will suffice for this anemone. Even better, I started out with a 110 watt jebo PC over a 20 gallon. Based on your info, I should have had no problem keeping a blue carpet.

In a nutshell, when you say 4-6 wpg, I'm thinking PC's and/or VHO's. That, is medium light IMO.

Also, I've seen anemone's grow incredibly fast, regaurdless of feeding schedule's if they are in good conditions.

I realize you are moving this to your lagoon. My concern is for those who have nano's that are asking your for help. You are making it sound like they can keep this thing in a nano forever.

Do you have any pics of the lagoon? I'd like to see it as I have only seen one other one. How big is it? And what are you keeping in there?

bluerug
05/11/2006, 01:50 PM
Well first of all i am by no means saying that it will be ok in a nano for long term, i am saying it will be fine for a short period of time. Dont put words in my mouth please.

Toddrtrex
05/11/2006, 01:57 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7310432#post7310432 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
IMO you will need to wait at least another 3-4 months before getting an anemone, if you dont know much about corals do not, do not get a carpet anemone, chances are you will loose it. As far as not being big enough, that is incorrect you could keep a small carpet in a 20 gallon for a while but not long term, i plan on keeping mine in the 12 for another 7-8 months, then moving him to his permanent home the 24, where he will live happily ever after. lol

Hmmm, your last sentence sure makes it seem that you think it is okay to have it in a nano long term, and yes 24g is still a nano.

55semireef
05/11/2006, 02:14 PM
I love this thread because there is so much confusion and lies. The funny part is I know whats going on. I am so fed up with this thread. Lie after lie after lie right bluecarpet? I am sure your "son" would agree. Its one thing to get your first real coral and to get excited about it, but to go overboard like you have is out of the question. Bluecarpet, your like Pinokio (however you spell it). Everytime he lies his nose grows. Bluecarpet your nose must be 5 miles long.

I am the only one besides bluecarpet who actually knows whats going on. I know him. He goes to my school and I am fed up with all of this false information. I understand you are going to be mad bc I "did you wrong" but your in a big hole now.

The closest thing you have to a lagoon is the freaking freshwater lake you live on.

I have said it, I am done.

Lagoon- never existed
Bluecarptet- Has no son. Just purchased the anemone and got it as a suprise. And within about a week and a half he is already saying he is an expert on this organism and wants to get like 30-45 of these things? HAH. Thats a joke!

There Bluecarpet, how about that freedom of speech for ya...

NewSchool04
05/11/2006, 02:48 PM
now that we have that straightened out (thank you 55emireef), you need to find a good home for your anemone. If you keep it, you kill it. Choice is yours.

phender
05/11/2006, 02:55 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7347502#post7347502 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hagfish
Considering 4-6 wpg is usually attainable with PC's and/or VHO's, I think it's risky to say that is going to be enough. Let's picture the average newbie with their 55 gallon tank and 220 watt Jebo PC fixture. I don't think that light will suffice for this anemone. Even better, I started out with a 110 watt jebo PC over a 20 gallon. Based on your info, I should have had no problem keeping a blue carpet. ......

Understand that there are 3 different types of carpet anemones and all have different requirements. Haddoni carpets, like the one Bluecarpet has, don't require nearly as much light as gigantea carpets. I have kept haddonis specimens for many years in the exact two set-ups that you describe above. If your anemone died it wasn't because of your lighting. Before Metal Halide became so available and before PC bulbs, many reefers were able to keep lower light anemones (BTAs and haddonis) under 4-5 watts of normal output fluorescents in tanks less than 18" deep. The absolute biggest secret in being able to keep anemones is to be able to pick one that is healthy in the first place.

Originally posted by 55semireef
....He goes to my school.....
Aaah, that explains why the IP address is the same. We thought he was talking to himself. :D Thanks for blowing the whistle on him.

superbeagle
05/11/2006, 03:55 PM
I am the only one besides bluecarpet who actually knows whats going on. I know him. He goes to my school and I am fed up with all of this false information.
Interesting that "bluecarpet" has the username of "55semireef" on saltwaterfish.com School must be out. Oh the drama. :rolleye1:

angelsj247
05/11/2006, 04:00 PM
some MOD needs to close this thread...

55semireef
05/11/2006, 04:11 PM
I am a complete different person than bluecarpet. We go to the same school which explains the confusion. But the fact of the matter is Bluecarpet is very biased and has lied a lot. I was just sitting in the back kind of laughing to myself but this thread needs to be closed. And by the way, school is only out for the seniors. We both are juniors. And I have no idea superbeagle
what dramam there is. Did I miss anything besides the straight up lies or maybe it was a joke?

bluerug
05/11/2006, 05:29 PM
I have no idea who this 55 semi reef is, he has been following me from swf and is kind of freaking me out. Please close this thread.

Dwayne
05/11/2006, 06:31 PM
Let this be clear and concise.

Anymore 'drama' from either one of you will not be tolerated. This includes the "he told lies" "no, he told lies" type of posting. You're both on the watch list, considered yourself warned.

Let's not have your privileges here at RC be suspended for the summer months.

bluerug
05/11/2006, 06:42 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7349477#post7349477 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dwayne
Let this be clear and concise.

Anymore 'drama' from either one of you will not be tolerated. This includes the "he told lies" "no, he told lies" type of posting. You're both on the watch list, considered yourself warned.

Let's not have your privileges here at RC be suspended for the summer months.
Warning taken, but i truly have no idea who he is. Is there a way where i can block his posts and not see them, please let me know, for he is starting to freak me out. ( no joke) Thank You
Bluecarpet

Dwayne
05/11/2006, 06:46 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7349537#post7349537 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
Warning taken

Glad to hear it.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7349537#post7349537 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
Is there a way where i can block his posts and not see them

To my knowledge the answer is 'no'. I'll check and let you know if there is a way. Your best option is to just avoid reading/responding.

Toddrtrex
05/11/2006, 06:48 PM
Actually Dwayne, I believe there is. Somewhere in the "my RC" section there is an option to "ignore user" -- any posts from that user won't be seen.

EDIT -- From the home page, on the left hand side, click "my RC" the fifth choice, near the top, will be "Edit ignore user". Just type in the user name you wish to ignore, none of the posts from that user/s will not be seen.

HTH

Dwayne
05/11/2006, 06:52 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7349581#post7349581 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Toddrtrex
Actually Dwayne, I believe there is. Somewhere in the "my RC" section there is an option to "ignore user" -- any posts from that user won't be seen.

You're correct. Thanks.

bluecarpet

Go to "My RC" and click the "Edit Ignore List". Add the names of the person(s) you wish to ignore.

DJ88©
05/11/2006, 07:00 PM
or click the profile button in a post of the person in question and at the bottom you can either add him/her/it to your buddy list or ignore list.

bluerug
05/11/2006, 07:04 PM
Thank you all very much, and iam going to go do that right now. Thank you once again.

bluerug
05/11/2006, 07:05 PM
It's like magic, i cannot see any of his posts,lol.

55semireef
05/11/2006, 07:17 PM
Thats it. I don't care if he can't see my posts.

This is rediculous. I can't believe you guys are buying his BS. I have not followed anyone from any forum. How would I know that he switched in the first place and went to this one? Exactly my point. Caught himself in another lie right there. I can't believe your going to believe him over me. I am freaking out no one. Tomorrow in first period in class, he will make this a joke.

I am not flaming anyone just trying to solve the thread but I guess this escalated. I am sorry this thread is no longer resourceful and by all means I am not trying to be rude, just honest.

Want to know another fun fact about bluecarpet or neil, he had a clown trigger in a 10 gallon tank and thought it was ok and listened to no one that tried to convince him that a clown trigger needs a much bigger tank. What happened, it died. SOunds familiar to you guys?

All I said was true. Take it or leave it.

55semireef
05/11/2006, 07:26 PM
And by the way, Dwane I am fuuly aware that your an established member on this boadrd. I never ridiculed anyone. I just straight up told you guys that Bluecarpet was full of it and his posts needed to be addressed. I don't see anything wrong with what I did. I was clearing something up and many people realized that we had the same or similiar IP address which made total sense bc we go to the same school. I am friends with this guy. I know what I am talking about.

phender
05/11/2006, 07:48 PM
Why did you take his Saltwaterfish.com screen name as your name on this forum?
It is pretty obvious from his posts that bluecarpet doesn't really know what he is talking about except what he has read in a book. Some of his other posts in other threads in this forum are just rediculous. It is obvious that his nano tank is brand new and the tentacles on his carpet indicate that it is not as healthy as he thinks it is.

There, does that make you feel better.

Now both of you(if there is actually two people here) go somewhere else to play.

rbaker
05/11/2006, 08:17 PM
You were warned 55semireef...

NewSchool04
05/11/2006, 08:24 PM
The anemone still needs a new home. bluecarpet, do the right thing and find someone in your town that has the knowledge and tank that can support it. Time to step up to the plate and do the right thing.

bluerug
05/11/2006, 08:28 PM
First of all the specimen is in perfect health, what is wrong with the tentacles? From the very bad pics i have taken of it. B/C if your that good you need to be getting paid millions. And trust me he has a nice enough tank/lagoon in which he will end up. Just waiting for a new camera b/c i dont want comments like all more corals are dying,etc, from a crappy camera like the one i have now.

NewSchool04
05/11/2006, 08:49 PM
it's not a specimen, it's an anemone. You really need to wake up and do the right thing and realize that this carpet has no chance in your nano cube.

What type of lighting do you have in your lagoon? What type of filtration are you using and how is it set up? What corals do you have in the lagoon and how are you providing flow? How large is the lagoon? I'm really interested in this, I don't care how crappy the pics are, post them. I'd like to check it out.

phender
05/11/2006, 08:51 PM
Does your son play in the lagoon. :D
We don't care if its full of hair algae, your corals are white and all your fish are belly up, let's see the lagoon.
From your pics it looks like the tentacles are shorter than I would expect on a healthy S. haddoni.
Hey yah, maybe I can hang around the LFSs and say, "Don't buy that anemone, its sick. You owe me $40"

dantodd
05/11/2006, 08:52 PM
You guys are just feeding the ego of a 12 year old. You do realize that don't you?

phender
05/11/2006, 08:57 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7350340#post7350340 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dantodd
You guys are just feeding the ego of a 12 year old. You do realize that don't you?

You're right, I'm being bad.....(walking away, head down, kicking the dirt as I go)

dantodd
05/11/2006, 08:59 PM
LOL. and a High school teacher at that!

BTW: Totally off topic I think my son's school is going to let me set up a tank..... Yay!

coraldude
05/11/2006, 09:13 PM
hey all ,, i dont think u should banish 55semireef for leting everyone know that , the things this kid(bluecarpet) is not telling the truth, if i heard a lie , i would say it was not true, would u not do the same,

good job 55semireef. i hate liers

and for u bluecarpet.. u should listen to all these ppl. they are not dumb.....

they are the ppl that know whats going on. if some one did not tell u what kind of carpet u have,. would not even konw what it is. and

how long have u din into saltwater fish.. ??? my sumps over 200gal. with ideal conditons , with lots of corals .. but i did not run out and get a carpet. i waited years before taking on such a rishky nem

ps it dose not seem many ppl like u here.. and do the right thing and sell it or give it to someone that can give it a healthy home

jjackson
05/11/2006, 09:18 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7310432#post7310432 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bluecarpet
IMO you will need to wait at least another 3-4 months before getting an anemone, if you dont know much about corals do not, do not get a carpet anemone

anemones are not corals.

this post is very fun to look through.

NewSchool04
05/11/2006, 09:32 PM
I understand what you're saying dantodd but then again I don't think bluecarpet should get a free ride for this. He's alot older than 12 and should be somewhat accountable.

Anemone
05/11/2006, 10:15 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7350487#post7350487 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coraldude
hey all ,, i dont think u should banish 55semireef for leting everyone know that , the things this kid(bluecarpet) is not telling the truth, if i heard a lie , i would say it was not true, would u not do the same,


A mod said "stop." 55semireef didn't. Clear?

Thread closed.

Kevin