ahhhhh Some People!!!!

[Nathan4Wvu]

http://www.livingcolor.com/installation_long_island_ny.cfm

Check this out some people make me sick




Kinda off the wall but I thought this was cool to its in Germany

http://www.spitfirechallenge.ca/index.38.jpg

Do you think they could park a Hummer in that lol

[LowCel]

They are probably smart enough not to drive Hummers.

[odoprelude]

HEY... hey, hey now.. I just bought an H3! Easy...

[Nathan4Wvu]

Thats kinda what i was thinking to lol Just goes to show you the difference in opinion. Look how many people in a given group over there drive a small car compared to a big one lol They have trade offs low safety but high gas milage.


Any way did you look at that tank in the thread??? That is my dream tank!!!

[LowCel]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7422304#post7422304 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by odoprelude
HEY... hey, hey now.. I just bought an H3! Easy...

That's alright, I was talking about real hummers not the wanna-be's. ;)

Seriously though, anyone else just start laughing uncontrollably when they see one of those things (h2's & h3's)? I can't understand for the life of me why anyone would buy one of those.

Here is a cool site dedicated to the H2 (http://www.fuh2.com/). (Parental advisory, explicit lyrics.)

[odoprelude]

That website is absurd... the funny thing is that we traded in our Mitsubishi Montero (full size, not the sport) for the H3 and we get better gas mileage, can use cheaper gas (Montero required premium, why? I couldn't say), the H3 has more power and looks a hell of a lot better... Half of the H2's they are flipping off are H3's...

For the record though, I bought the H3 for my wife.. I still drive the Saabaru... SUVs are things I could never get into, always was a small car kinda guy..

[odoprelude]

Back on track...

Man, I wish they would have shown the tank after installation!

[LowCel]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7423043#post7423043 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by odoprelude For the record though, I bought the H3 for my wife.. I still drive the Saabaru... SUVs are things I could never get into, always was a small car kinda guy.. [/B]

I agree completely. We actually got rid of my wife's SUV a couple of months ago and bought a Scion TC. It's a pretty nice little car, has plenty of power and gets around 30 mpg. I've still got my bike hauler though, I just drive it as little as possible these days.

[Nathan4Wvu]

I think those people are just mad because they can't have one lol You know if they had 50g's to drop on a auto they wouldn't buy a Geo Metro lol

[LowCel]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7423605#post7423605 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by schscountryboy
I think those people are just mad because they can't have one lol You know if they had 50g's to drop on a auto they wouldn't buy a Geo Metro lol

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Obviously they probably wouldn't buy a metro but there are plenty of other choices out there. I work with a lot of people that can drive pretty much anything they want and not one of them owns a hummer. Then again most of the people I know won't buy American either, I'm one of them. Every american car I have owned has left me on the side of the road. This includes four new american cars since 1999.

It pretty much all goes back to different strokes for different folks. :D

[odoprelude]

Yeah, I work for GM so I'm kind of stuck... if it wasn't for that, I would probably be driving a Mini Cooper S Works... but that's just me...

[firefish2020]

Bruce you have a Scion?
Those things are sweet IMO, any problems with it at all?

[LowCel]

Yeah, bought my wife a Scion TC. That thing is great. The only problem is that we bought it at Love Lexus. They made the buying experience as painful as possible.

From the start they tried convincing my wife to buy a color that we didn't want. They tried to convince her to buy silver for two hours. The only problem was we didn't want silver. The guy kept telling her how much everyone liked it. I finally had to look at him and just tell him that I was glad that everyone else liked it, unfortunately the guy paying for it didn't. At that point I wasn't exactly polite about it.

Then they finally told us they could get the color that we wanted but it may take a while so they may not be able to give us as much for our trade, it may depreciate before the new car came in.

Next we told them we wanted the spoiler on it. They didn't get it in when the car originally came in so we had to take the car back to them to have it installed. They told us to have the car in at 7:00 (or 8:00) am and they would have a car for us to drive. My wife took the car in and no one there knew what she was there for. Not only that there was no loaner car there. She had to wait around for over an hour for someone to drive her to work (late).

They bought some generic knock off spoiler and put it on the car. It waved at you when you looked at it, very poor quality. When they had the car putting the spoiler on they took it to an automatic car wash. That put scratches all over the car, made it look like crap! We questioned them about it and they denied it.

After a few more calls someone finally mentioned the car wash and said they would have it buffed out. They took it to a body shop in St. Albans. The body shop actually made it look worse!

Once we got the car back we kept looking at the spoiler, it really made the car look bad. Finally someone there gave in and said they would have a new one ordered. Looks that Sell ordered the new spoiler for us. When Love Lexus called us and told us the new spoiler was in we asked them how it looked. He said he had looked at it and it looked perfect. We called Looks that Sell and asked them, he said he hadn't opened the box yet and for us to hold on. He went and looked at it and said they shipped him the wrong spoiler. Another lie by Love Lexus!

A week later the correct spoiler came in, Looks that Sells installed it and it looks great. However, we still have all the scratches and swirl marks. We ended up taking it to another body shop and having them buff it out. They ended up having to buff it out on two seperate occasions. They couldn't believe how bad the paint had been messed up. Love Lexus didn't offer to reimburse us for having the car buffed out. All they said is that "they went out of their way to make us happy". Believe that if you want.

Anyway, long story short. We love the car, we hate Love Lexus.

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7425173#post7425173 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by firefish2020
Bruce you have a Scion?
Those things are sweet IMO, any problems with it at all?

?????...............well as he said earlier, different stroke s for different folks ;)

[LowCel]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7427761#post7427761 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by E-A-G-L-E-S
?????...............well as he said earlier, different stroke s for different folks ;)

Yup, world would be a pretty boring place if everyone liked the same things. Plus you would never be able to find your car in a parking lot. :)

It's a sporty little car that gets good gas mileage and it makes my wife happy. As long as the wife is happy I'm happy. :D On top of that it actually cost less than my bikes have cost me over the past couple of years. :rolleyes:

[grendl]

The problem I have with a Scion, is that they would have to build the car around me, in order for me to fit in it. lol

[LowCel]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7428709#post7428709 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by grendl
The problem I have with a Scion, is that they would have to build the car around me, in order for me to fit in it. lol

The tc actually has a good bit of room in it. It is about the same size as the 97 eclipse I had and the 91 eclipse my wife had.

[firefish2020]

?????...............well as he said earlier, different stroke s for different folks



Yeah the TC seems to be a nice little car AGAIN, only in my opinion and from what I have heard.

I'm not one for big gas guzzlers either but if you like your big cars so be it. I say enjoy them while you still have gas to put into them, because one day you wont.

[Nathan4Wvu]

One of my classes last semester the professor was a patrol engineer and he claimed that by the 2018 oil will be so expensive that it won't even be able to be sold mainsteam it will be somthing you save up for to take you 1968 camero for 1 weeked a month or year. And the the supply will run out by about 2025.

[firefish2020]

And the the supply will run out by about 2025.


When I was growing up I heard the same thing then one day in the mid 80s everyone forgot the warnings and well here we are again. That kind of talk was chalked up to those smelly hippies and everyone knows they don't know anything because they smell and dress funny and you would be crazy to listen to a warning from a smelly hippie.

Well I guess
We sure showed them huh?

A paradigm shift is coming, there is no reason to use obsolete engines when newer more efficient propulsion systems are becoming more available IMO.
You will find I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things, and sometimes thats just bad.

[Nathan4Wvu]

Yea i saw an artical in the paper about a week ago on a hydrogen engin that is running as we speek and is just l a couple 100 hours away from passing certification. I would by a hydrogen car in a sec lol its only real by product is us pure h2o.

I think we need to turn our efforts twards nuclear fission. Unlimited energy that will never run out but who knows if it will be in our life times.

Man i love this stuff i guess thats why im becoming an engineer lol

[LtPiper]

if you buy a hydrogen only car good luck fueling it as ther is no place to fill up at currently in the state.

[mcox33]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7433558#post7433558 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LtPiper
if you buy a hydrogen only car good luck fueling it as ther is no place to fill up at currently in the state.


I think that has been the problem with all the alternative (sp) fuel vehicles in the past. Who is going to buy something they can't get fuel for. The next problem is what store wants to sell something that has no demand. To much overhead to stock something that isn't selling several times daily.

[1Reefer101]

As long as we are on the subject and off reefs (although sort of related - environment).

There will be no serious effort for alternative fuels as long as the price/demand stays the same.

If the US Government would put a $1.50 a gallon tax on gas. We would purchase more fuel efficient autos, people would drive less because they could not afford it, public transportation would increase, alternative fuel research would increase because the cost would be more attractive, OEMs would improve MPG ratings on larger vehicles as well as smaller - demand would decrease - OPEC would be out of luck - problem solved 3-4 years max.

As long as we are willing to pay/buy, nothing will change.

This does not happen because the Gov. is in bed with the oil companies and because higher taxes would not be popular so the politicians are not going to give away their 3-4 years in office for the good of everyone 5-10 years down the line. Global warming is no different, similar tax would have similar improvements to that issue as well but the guy who does it is also committing to a 1 term Presidency.

[firefish2020]

if you buy a hydrogen only car good luck fueling it as there is no place to fill up at currently in the state.


True but only for now, remember one day that what we call alternative sources of power today, will just be common and what we use. That's the paradigm shift I speak of.

[mcox33]

but it can't begin until there is fuel to power them. not many people can afford to buy the car and let it sit til fuel is available.

[Nathan4Wvu]

Here is somthing i found..

How much water would the U.S. use to fuel the entire light-duty vehicle fleet (cars and small trucks) with hydrogen?

Conversion of the current U.S. light-duty fleet (some 230 million vehicles) to fuel cell vehicles would require about 100 billion gallons of water/year to supply the needed hydrogen (1).

For comparison, the U.S. uses about 300 billion gallons of water/year for the production of gasoline (2), about three times the amount needed for hydrogen, and about 70 TRILLION gallons of water/year for thermoelectric power generation (3). Domestic personal water use in the United States is about 4800 billion gallons/year.

Right there says that we use more water each years to JUST RIFINE OIL then would be requied to run EVERY CAR IN THE US FOR YEAR... Thats one of the best bits of news i have heard in a wile lol

Some protoypes of hydogen cars you would not need a fueling station the station would be your HOUSE WATER HOSE lol they would just use electrolyzer to seperate the 2 parts hydrogen from the oxygen.

[odoprelude]

Well, I am happy to report that GM is running a fleet of hydrogen vehicles (and yes there is even a Hydrogen H2 they are running) and the Ethnahol thing should be taking off, Saab just unveiled a concept with a 400hp V8 that runs 100% ethnahol... Hydrogen is probably going to be several years off (probably 8-10 years) Ethnahol is probably closer. My only problem with ethnahol is that farmers will want to grow it a lot more and it will probably skyrocket the price of other produce and maybe even farm raised livestock....

Consequently, the Smart Car from europe is able to be run on Lithium Ion batteries pretty well and the same company has a Chrysler Crossfire that can do 160mph with the same batteries...and I thought battery cars were going to be slugs...
(of course, how long can the crossfire run after doing 160? Good question..)

[odoprelude]

Whoops... what I meant to say here "is that farmers will want to grow it a lot more" was ethnahol grade corn, as opposed produce grade corn...

[LowCel]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7425173#post7425173 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by firefish2020
Bruce you have a Scion?
Those things are sweet IMO, any problems with it at all?

Here ya go Ron. Not the best picture but it will give you an idea of what it looks like.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b148/LowCel/100_0306.jpg

[Nathan4Wvu]

Thats a sweet car i like those alot and you can't beat all the stuff you get for the price.

Ive been looking around and i think if i do get a new car somtime soon im going to get a dodge caliber they are cheep small and classie

[firefish2020]

Yeh I stand by my original statement, that's a sweet little car.
Now I'm off to clear some land for my corn farm, you guys play nice now :thumbsup: