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H20ENG
05/28/2006, 03:25 PM
Hi Randy,
I tried a search, but could not find an answer....
I was wondering why straight acid could not be used to lower the pH in a reactor, rather than CO2? With the right doser and pH controller, could it not be done safely? If so, Which type of acid would be the best.
Thanks!
Chris

boxfishpooalot
05/28/2006, 05:21 PM
The acid will reduce the alkalinity while Co2 does not :)

H20ENG
05/28/2006, 06:06 PM
Carbonic acid in the reactor works different than sulfuric or muriatic? Why would the carbonic acid not reduce the alk as well.

Not doubting, just trying to understand:)
Thanks,
Chris

Randy Holmes-Farley
05/29/2006, 06:55 AM
Yes, carbonic acid is different.

Adding CO2 cannot ever reduce alkalinity, because bicarbonate is produced when it looses a proton:

H2CO3 (carbonic acid) ---> H+ + HCO3-


So the net reaction is:


H2CO3 + CaCO3 ---> Ca++ + 2HCO3-

If you used HCl, the net reaction is:

2HCl + CaCO3 ---> Ca++ + 2Cl- + H2O

The last reaction is the same as adding calcium chloride. If you used sulfuric acid, you net calcium sulfate, etc.

So for a reactor, CO2 is by far the best.

one may be able to use certain organic acids (like acetic acid/vinegar), with the net being like the addition of calcium acetate. Bacteria break down the acetate into H2O, CO2, and HCO3-. That might work, but the engineering is complicated and O2 consumption is a concern. Salifert sells a product that is mostly calcium acetate (Salifert All In One).

H20ENG
05/29/2006, 10:50 AM
Well there you go! Thank you for the perfect explination:)
Chris

Randy Holmes-Farley
05/29/2006, 01:46 PM
You're welcome.

Happy Reefing. :)