OK im getting P.O.'d now, do true black perculas even exist?!?

[Xirxes23]

I want a pair of tru black perculas, or even Oscillaris for that matter, i KNOW i have seen them, but i have searched about 30 different sites on the net and NONE have anything realted to Black Perculas... Maybe a black sadle back here and there, but they are not what i want.

Questions:
1: Do australian black perculas really exist?
2: If so where can i get one?
3: Anyone know of a site that offers non saddleback Black/white Oscillaris at least?

thanks, im going nutso over here............:eek2:

[Xirxes23]

lol a pair EXACTLY like the left one would do nicely...
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/edwar050/IMG_1227.jpg

***edit*** heres another, im NOT CRAZY, now where can i get my paws on a pair of these elusive buggers?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dodo99/DSCF1107.jpg

[amuruges]

I got these from Dr. Macs lastyear.... I haven't seen one for sale there since.... maybe they can help you get one.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h302/amuruges/16nan1.jpg

[Juck]

There is no such thing as a Black Percula. Those pictures are of the Darwin endemic of Amphiprion Ocellaris.

themarinecenter.com has some

[dantodd]

Almost any good fish store should be able to find them for you. Two different LFS here have them right now but that won't help you.

As Juck said these are ocellaris from Australia.

They are almost all captive bred. Here the captive bred black ocellaris go for between $40 and $55 each. Wild Caught Black ocellaris, if you can find them, run $200 and up each last I heard. I've never seen them.

You can tell them apart from saddlebacks because they should have traditional ocellaris "bump" in the middle bar and have no yellow on the edges of the fins. Saddlebacks occasionally have the bump on the middle bar but almost always will also have the yellow on the fin edges.

BTW: Beautiful fish amuruges.

[amuruges]

tks. I have been very happy with them...

[EMBRYOGUY]

you can get them at petco lol

i just gave a pair away.

[oosurfin]

ive never seen them at my petco and the stores around me are asking 90 per clown. yeah right im going to pay 90 for a clown.

[stykthyn]

they can be rather hard to come by, you just have to keep looking. they go pretty quick when they do show up. A couple of years ago they were thick around here, but I have only seen 2 since.

[dantodd]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7474912#post7474912 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by oosurfin
the stores around me are asking 90 per clown. yeah right im going to pay 90 for a clown.

I might; but not for an ocellaris.

[Xirxes23]

when i first saw them, a LFS had a WHOLE 20g display full of them, im talking at least 30! that was before my tank was set up. Then i saw a pair at another LFS not 2 weeks ago, now that im ready for them... ALL GONE, and all the LFS keep telling me that what i saw was true percula with more than normal black!

I say NAY to them! They do exist and i will find them, oh yes they will be mine!

(a.k.a. i am tired/delerious and just put in my first coral tonight, including a torch that might make a good clown home)
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c39/NicholeS29/torch1.jpg

Thanks for the help people, the search will continue

[stykthyn]

do some digging, there is a member here that has a spawning pair, perhaps you can get him to part with a couple.

[oosurfin]

are you sure he isnt talking about onxy percs?

[jjackson]

The local DeathCo(Petco) has a bunch that are actually Great looking Black Occ. Anyway they are 40 a piece so shouldnt be too hard to find.

[stykthyn]

are you sure he isnt talking about onxy percs?

nope black oc's. try the breeders forum I think that was the last place I saw a post. I think it was less than a week ago

[Jovreefer]

Dr foster and smith carry them dont they? order from them.

[superbeagle]

I purchased my female from the Trop back before they were so ridiculously priced. They usually have several available. http://www.tropicorium.com/

I will say she is the meanest fish I've ever had - meaner than the clarkiis, polymnus & GSMs combined.

Sorry for the poor quality pic:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/rebecca73/Fish/ocellaris18s.jpg

[JHardman]

What you are after is the black variant of A. ocellaris, which are bred in the US by ORA and can be ordered by any LFS. They are not rare nor are they hard to obtain if you just ask your LFS to order them.

BTW, the common name "black perc(ula)" is like the most mis used, mis applied common name out there. I have seen it applied to a half dozen clownfish species and a couple of other species of fish too.

If you want a specific species of clownfish, you really need to start talking in indisputable terms, aka species names and not common names.

[Xirxes23]

well that was my trouble, i was looking for black variant oscellaris, but kept getting told by LFS that they were percula or clarkii... which i knew they were not. So back to original thought. I will keep looking for the Oscellaris then. Thanks all

[frydaddy]

Liveaquaria has them on their site for sale right now.

[Anemone]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7476517#post7476517 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JHardman
What you are after is the black variant of A. ocellaris, which are bred in the US by ORA and can be ordered by any LFS. They are not rare nor are they hard to obtain if you just ask your LFS to order them.


Absolutely! Any store that deals with ORA shouldn't have any trouble ordering them.

I bought mine about a year and a half ago for $29 each from a LFS that stocks ORA captive bred fish. THe black has filled in on the face considerably since these pictures were taken (April of '05).

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/521/1075BlackOcellaris2-med.jpg

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/521/1075BlackOcellaris1-med.jpg

Kevin

[raoul]

I'm drooling! I want a pair of those too! We're cycling a 75 right now. We've got orange false percs in a 30 and they're nice and happy with their nem.
I'd love to place a pair of these black beauties in the 75 with a rose bta, I think the color combo would be striking. Good luck on your search! I've been asking a couple of the good lfs here if they can order them for me and they said they could.

[maroonytunes]

Preuss Pets had some last week for 32 a piece, the website is www.preusspets.com

[Phyxius]

My wife picked these guys up last yr for our tank. Not sure which they are exactly with all the names floating around for black colored ones....... It was her only request for it to have black clowns. She thought everyone had orange and reds but hardly saw blacks and thats what she liked about them. They have paired off and grown some more since this pick last yr. They are very gentle and perfect tank residents and actually will come up to my hand if I go slow when feeding. They orange has faded away more on them also since then. Even more so since we got them and they were about 1 1/2" long

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/78452Clowns.jpg

[dodo99]

Here's mine, also from ORA.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dodo99/DSCF1133.jpg

[Xirxes23]

Ok, Two black Osc. juniors from england in the mail!

Any recommended acclimation techniques? 15-20 temp acclimate, add 1/8 bag water every 5 minutes until twice level?

[stykthyn]

drip acclimate with a piece of airhose. put the fish in a bucket with just enough water to cover them and start siphoning water from your tank into the bucket. when the water starts tie a loose knot in the hose till the water drips. should take a couple of hours. are you going to QT?

[Xirxes23]

nope, they are foster and smith (14 day guarantee), and i dont have any other fish in tank (or QT tank for that matter), so im fairly safe.

[stykthyn]

good deal

[Xirxes23]

just pour the bucket into tank then? I hear that nets really freak out these little buggers.

[stykthyn]

no, you dont want to pour in the bucket, I usually use a container of some sort. drain the bucket into the drain until it gets really low. I usually use a shot glass or childs cup for smaller fish.

[fadeintoblue]

These little fellas being mislabeled is pretty common, I got a pair from SW Fish (didn't know any better then) for my 24 nano when I started in this hobby a couple years ago, sadly the mail made a leap into the overflow he didn't survive. I tried finding a replacement locally, I called every store in town, 3 or 4 said they had them, I'd drive 50 miles to see saddlebacks mislabeled as Black percs or false black percs. really PMO. rest of the story, ordered a replacement male, and after all that she tried for 2 months to kill him before I got him who's now a her a tank of his own and a buddy.

[phishlet]

Here you go

http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/clownfish/ocellarisclownblackwhiteaustrali/

http://www.marinedepotlive.com/blandwhoccla.html

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=1114