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BlueNWhite
06/15/2006, 10:07 PM
Could someone tell me what kind of Anthias this is.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Rayzilla/Marine%20Fish/MarineFish003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Rayzilla/Marine%20Fish/MarineFish007.jpg

Thanks,
Raymond

NexDog
06/16/2006, 07:38 AM
Lyretail Anthias (Pseudanthias squamipinnis). The blue lines under the eye are a dead giveaway.

SDguy
06/16/2006, 07:45 AM
Actually, looks like dispar to me. Tough to tell with the blurry pic, but the red dorsal says dispar to me. Does it have a pointy or rounded snout?

CamBarr
06/16/2006, 09:58 AM
dispar

BlueNWhite
06/16/2006, 10:06 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7571301#post7571301 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy
Actually, looks like dispar to me. Tough to tell with the blurry pic, but the red dorsal says dispar to me. Does it have a pointy or rounded snout?
You are right, the picture is quite blurry. I'm still learning how to use the digital camera properly.

I'll have to check on the snout when I get home, but so far it looks like it's two to one for Dispar over Lyretail. Thanks to Laurence, Cam and yourself.

Would there be a problem if I bought a shoal of 6-9 Lyretails? And if that's ok, given that I might already have a male Dispar in the tank, would you recommend that I get all female Lyretails or make one a male?

besl
06/16/2006, 10:10 AM
I'm going with dispar also - I have lyretails and the coloring is different - orange body with all yellow fins - yours has red which makes me think its a dispar. Do you know if this is male or female - may help id it better.

BlueNWhite
06/16/2006, 10:16 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7572228#post7572228 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by besl
I'm going with dispar also - I have lyretails and the coloring is different - orange body with all yellow fins - yours has red which makes me think its a dispar. Do you know if this is male or female - may help id it better.
Sorry I don't know if it is a male or female because until now, I was not even sure which type of Anthias it was. I think when I bought it, it was called Red Fin or something like that.

NexDog
06/16/2006, 11:08 AM
In that case it's a Dispar. Some people call Dispars the Redfin Anthias. Dispars typically aren't that orange though.

SDguy
06/16/2006, 11:09 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7572282#post7572282 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BlueNWhite
Sorry I don't know if it is a male or female because until now, I was not even sure which type of Anthias it was. I think when I bought it, it was called Red Fin or something like that.

I think red fin is another name for dispar. I think they're sometimes called peach anthias too. Yours looks to be a male, or at least changing. Does the store you got it from have more? Does yours eat? If so, take advantage of a healthy batch, and get some more perhaps.

Angel*Fish
06/16/2006, 12:25 PM
Definitely dispar

Yellow tail means female but the photo looks like the whole dorsal fin is red which would indicate a male

If those 2 skinny fins on the front ventral side below the gill are extra long, it's a male (Sorry can't think of what they're called)

My guess without futher photos is female - FWIW :D

BlueNWhite
06/16/2006, 01:29 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7572617#post7572617 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy
...Does the store you got it from have more? Does yours eat? If so, take advantage of a healthy batch, and get some more perhaps.
I've had it in my tank for about two months now, and it's by itself. I bought it as a trio, but one of them had a small brown spot that got bigger and bigger as if it were a flesh eating disease. Shortly after that one died, the next small one also died. This last one is eating very well and looks to be a keeper.

So if it was the dominant female and started changing when the other two were still around, but never finished it's transition to male, is it possible that it is in limbo. I ask because it sounds like it has a mix of the physical features of a male and female that all of you are bringing up, i.e. the entire dorsal fin is red, and the '2 skinny fins' are not very long. Maybe 'it's' confused.:p That's why he is hanging around with the chromis.:D

SDguy
06/16/2006, 03:11 PM
A lot of times anthias will get full male coloration, but only after a long time will they get those extra long caudal tips, pelvic fins, dorsal spine, etc. IME. If he's doing fine, I wouldn't worry about him needing others of his kind. Maybe go with some barlett's if you want more anthias (hardier, similar shape to dispar, less scappy than lyretail).

tatoofr
06/16/2006, 04:46 PM
Hi,
They are Dispars,
Can you tell me what you feed them?
I just picked up 5 of them today, one Male , 4 females.
They just came in so not feeding at the store yet>

Thanks,
Frank

BlueNWhite
06/16/2006, 09:11 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7574582#post7574582 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tatoofr
Hi,
They are Dispars,
Can you tell me what you feed them?
I just picked up 5 of them today, one Male , 4 females.
They just came in so not feeding at the store yet>

Thanks,
Frank
His/her:p daily diet is primarily flakes. I alternate between a spirulina flake and a red coloured flake (both by Ocean Nutrition).

I didn't find it hard to get it to eat. As long as they are not breathing rapidly at the start, they should eventually be ok. Keep us updated.

Good luck.

tatoofr
06/28/2006, 11:38 AM
Hi,
Just to let you know all 9 are eating well and doing great.
Thanks,
Frank

Chihuahua6
06/29/2006, 08:25 PM
tatoofr do you have 5 or 9? What store did you get them from? I'm originally from Long Island so I was just curious. I was considering adding some Dispars once my tank is up and matured a bit. I don't hear of many people keeping them so it's good to hear success stories. I was going to order mine from Liveaquaria. How long did it take you to get them to eat?

BlueNWhite
06/29/2006, 10:04 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7574115#post7574115 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy
A lot of times anthias will get full male coloration, but only after a long time will they get those extra long caudal tips, pelvic fins, dorsal spine, etc. IME. If he's doing fine, I wouldn't worry about him needing others of his kind. Maybe go with some barlett's if you want more anthias (hardier, similar shape to dispar, less scappy than lyretail).
Thanks for the response SDguy.

I came across three more Dispars. Two of them are just about or over 2" while one of them was only about 1.5". Sadly but not surprised, the smallest one didn't accept any food even though it was swimming around. But the other two are doing fine and eating along with the original Dispar which will likely be the male.

Is the male more of a yellow/orange color throughout the whole body including the tail and only red on the top fin? Are the females more of a pinkish/reddish color on the body?

Thanks,
Raymond

tatoofr
06/30/2006, 05:50 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7655435#post7655435 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chihuahua6
tatoofr do you have 5 or 9? What store did you get them from? I'm originally from Long Island so I was just curious. I was considering adding some Dispars once my tank is up and matured a bit. I don't hear of many people keeping them so it's good to hear success stories. I was going to order mine from Liveaquaria. How long did it take you to get them to eat?

Hi,
I had 5 and the next day they all started eating, so I went back and added 4 more.
I got them at pets warehouse in long Island. $18 each -

Frank

Chihuahua6
06/30/2006, 08:08 AM
Only $18 each!? That's a great price. Pets Warehouse did have nice fish from what I remember. My parents are coming here for a visit. It's tempting to have them pick up some Anthias for me, although they are driving and leaving at 3:00 am. The fish would be in transit for over 24 hours.