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Gluestick
06/16/2006, 10:43 PM
Okay, so I'm a newbie, and I've been hanging out lately at a LFS talking to some people about reefkeeping and stuff... Well, I knew that this was an expensive hobby getting into it, but we were talking about fish prices today and someone was telling me about this angelfish that was special ordered at the store that cost like a LOT!!! Okay, so I was blown away by that and it made me curious, all you guys who have been in this for a while, 1. What is the most expensive fish that you have purchased, and 2. What is the most expensive fish you have ever seen for sale? Geez, and I thought that $70 for a flame angel was EXPENSIVE!

Manderin
06/16/2006, 10:46 PM
i have seen a scopus tang priced at $250, it was full grown, and that is overpriced, im pretty sure

secrest
06/16/2006, 10:47 PM
Ive seen a crosshatch for 750

Sports Girl
06/16/2006, 10:49 PM
I've seen some angelfish for around $900, but the most I've paid is $30 for a purple tang...

Gluestick
06/16/2006, 10:57 PM
wow, i've never seen a purple tang for less than $100

yoboyjdizz
06/16/2006, 11:11 PM
I think the most expensive fish i bought was an queen angel for like 80 dollars i believe i just seen this Conspicillatus Angel on live aquaria in their drives den for 1,499.99 dollars!

Gluestick
06/16/2006, 11:20 PM
that's CRAZY

lessans
06/16/2006, 11:24 PM
I swear to G-d that I've seen a fish in a lfs priced a $1000 that someone actually bought, but since that was back in the fall and also in a fish store that I don't usually shop at I have a hard time remembering what type of fish it was. However, there is a Bumble Bee Grouper at my closest lfs for $500; the store named it "Kong".

Gluestick
06/16/2006, 11:30 PM
Yeah, I just went to live aquaria to check out the diver's den. You're right there is an angel there for $1500!!! THAT IS CRAZYYYYY

msuzuki126
06/16/2006, 11:31 PM
A flame angel for 70$ seems rediculous. At my LFS they are 30$ at most.

msuzuki126
06/16/2006, 11:31 PM
A flame angel for 70$ seems rediculous. At my LFS they are 30$ at most.

Gluestick
06/16/2006, 11:33 PM
You guys should totally check this out, it's insane... http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/CatDisplay.cfm?sku=0089698000000&siteid=20

yoboyjdizz
06/16/2006, 11:36 PM
70 is a rip off for an flame angel. 30 dollars is more reasonable. Purple tangs around here are usually in the 40-60 range. Yes that angel on live aquaria is a crazy price but for a fish so rare i can understand but man i was thinking maybe couple hundred dollars not 1500.

yoboyjdizz
06/16/2006, 11:36 PM
What if you bought it and it died soon after man would i just shoot myself for that one.

ClamIAm
06/16/2006, 11:47 PM
A store by me that is known for overpricing everything had a rhinopias scorpion for $1200 I think for the longest time...I doubt anyone ever bought it.

Gluestick
06/16/2006, 11:51 PM
Hey ClamIAm, I'm in IL, too, what LFS is it?

NaClH20NMYVEIN
06/16/2006, 11:54 PM
my LFS had a pair of dragon morey eels for 3000$ ouch! They are still there and probably will be for a while

zemuron114
06/17/2006, 12:34 AM
3000 for a pair of dragons is actually a really good price if they are indeed a pair.

marinecenter had a interruptus angel for 1400.00. Which is a total rip because there is a place in hawaii that breeds them and you can get them for 650$ all day! and they are tank bred!!

there are many expensive fish out there :)

GoblinFish
06/17/2006, 01:06 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7576642#post7576642 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gluestick
You guys should totally check this out, it's insane... http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/CatDisplay.cfm?sku=0089698000000&siteid=20

Wow those are some crazy prices!
But i have to admit those 2 clown fish look amazing!!

olivia640
06/17/2006, 01:11 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7576697#post7576697 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ClamIAm
A store by me that is known for overpricing everything had a rhinopias scorpion for $1200 I think for the longest time...I doubt anyone ever bought it.

Was that at Old Town?

JRistau81
06/17/2006, 01:18 AM
My most expensive fish was an Imperator angelfish at $90. Thats about the most I would spend. much more and it is too much of a risk as the fish will, with my luck, die.

zemuron114
06/17/2006, 01:39 AM
my whole perspective of expensive fish have changed since i can get pretty much anything at very low costs! But there is still always a price margin that i wont cross because of the risk. Dead fish aren't worth anything, rare or not :)

elephen
06/17/2006, 07:15 AM
At the local store I used to run we had a 21" White Tipped Reef Shark. I think wholesale it was $650 plus another $400-500 to ship since the box weighed 150 lbs.

He was pretty cool.

jw10604
06/17/2006, 08:02 AM
I local store near me has a horned hawaiian eel for $3500. They even give it a 7 day warranty.

hitsek2004
06/17/2006, 08:19 AM
U DRIVE ME CRAZY U GUYS...:mad2: :mad2:

I GIVE AN AVERAGE PRICE FOR LIVE STOCK HERE IN ATHENS THAT THE LFSs SELL:
QUEEN ANGELS FROM 150-250 EURO (DEPENDS ON THE SIZE)
FLAME ANGELS THE MINIMUM PRICE I HAVE SEEN IS 90 EUROS.......:mad: :mad:
TRIGGER CLOWN MEDIUM ABOUT 120 EUROS.....
THE ADULT ANGELS START FROM 80 TO 300 EUROS...
IMAGINE THE REST

THANKS


P.S. DONT COMPLAIN

ClamIAm
06/17/2006, 11:35 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7576716#post7576716 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gluestick
Hey ClamIAm, I'm in IL, too, what LFS is it?

Living Seas

cardgenius
06/17/2006, 01:12 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7576697#post7576697 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ClamIAm
A store by me that is known for overpricing everything had a rhinopias scorpion for $1200 I think for the longest time...I doubt anyone ever bought it.

My lfs has had a purple one for over a year! And they still wont budge on the $1200 price tag!!!

xtrstangx
06/17/2006, 01:20 PM
We have a fish store that gets $100-150 wrasses in quite often and they sell pretty quick. Sure are beautiful fish though.

ReefHotSpot
06/17/2006, 01:30 PM
The most expensive fish that i've seen was a show size albino undulate trigger--also the most beautiful fish i've ever seen. It went for 3500. Conspic angels are interesting because the bigger ones are actually cheaper than the smaller ones. I saw a juvenile 2-3 inches go for $2000. How about this though, show red carpet that went for 1200.

Buster4900
06/17/2006, 02:38 PM
I just purchased a Flame Angel for $50. That was the same price two stores in town had.

yeloyoshi
06/17/2006, 03:48 PM
what about those peppermint angels that run close to $10,000 i think...

Gluestick
06/17/2006, 08:23 PM
10 grand? Was that a TYPO????!!! lol. OMG. What the heck is a peppermint angel?

DaveG99
06/17/2006, 08:35 PM
I really do not understand why someone would pay a few hundred dollars for one fish! I dont care how rare it is. A fish is a fish. Rare or not no fish should cost over $100. I guess people liek to have a "rare" fish so that they can brag about it. Just because its rare it doesnt mean that they are better. A good example is a black tang. It costs anywhere from $250-$500. Its just a yellow tang that is black. I think the yellow ones even look better. Maybe I'm just cheap.

adnup
06/17/2006, 08:41 PM
Prized KOI in Asia go for $2000 and more all the time.

Not that I would (or could)go that route. $44 for a regal tang is tops in my tank right now

Timothy01
06/17/2006, 08:49 PM
if i was going to pay 1.5 k for a fish i sure as hell wouldnt mail order it, as good as live aquaria is, thats a lot of money for one fish and deffinitly not worth risking a loss. if i had that kinda money to toss around i would have one awsome tank though

thor32766
06/17/2006, 09:08 PM
maybe some people like paying alot for a fish because it is cnet have to something in your tank, that is rarely seen. I paid 300 for my black tang and have no regrets. I love him to death.

Me No Nemo
06/17/2006, 09:20 PM
I'm really glad you do!!! ;)

zemuron114
06/17/2006, 10:42 PM
horned hawaiian eel?? Isn' that just a regular dragon? they are all "horned". 3500 for a dragon is on the expensive side though.

steve the plumb
06/18/2006, 09:11 AM
I have seen a black tipped shark for $5000.The shark was about 2 1/2 to 3 feet long.I have seen some fish priced at $2000 or less but the shark was to most expensive.I can understand why people would want a rare fish if it has amazing colors but I to think to pay $300 to $500 for a fish is alot of money.I guess if someone had a large fish that they raised from a baby and wanted to sell for a profit,the amount of time and care they put into it it would be fare to demand a larger sum of money.If someone drops a net catches 100 fish and says this is worth this amount and thats worth that amount then its a differant ballgame.Less effort to catch a wildfish and place a price tag on it.Supply and demand if people wouldn't pay larges sums of money then the fish and corals would be cheaper.I also don't agree with people buying very rare fish just for the fact that the species is hard to keep in captivity or for the lack of the species.

dreams
06/18/2006, 10:32 AM
the most i have paid is $24 for my jawfish....the most i am willing to pay is $100 for a laboutes fairy wrasse.....the highest i have seen at me LFS is $500 for a crosshatch

mr_o98
06/18/2006, 10:42 AM
I've heard the Peppermint Angels being super expensive. The most I've paid was $60 for my Brazilian Flameback Angel.

THEPHISHGUY
06/18/2006, 10:49 AM
There is an angel, forgot the name though (but think it is something like koubi) that is atleast 4-6K....

gary faulkner
06/18/2006, 11:16 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7580293#post7580293 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DaveG99
I really do not understand why someone would pay a few hundred dollars for one fish! I dont care how rare it is. A fish is a fish. Rare or not no fish should cost over $100. I guess people liek to have a "rare" fish so that they can brag about it. Just because its rare it doesnt mean that they are better. A good example is a black tang. It costs anywhere from $250-$500. Its just a yellow tang that is black. I think the yellow ones even look better. Maybe I'm just cheap.

Me cheapo too:lol:

zemuron114
06/19/2006, 12:34 AM
people buy expensive fish for the same reason why people buy expensive cars, or antiques... there is no difference.

peppermint angels are found soooo deep, people can and sometimes do die when collecting them.. Hence the price tag :)

2000$ for a koi is chump change. Go to Japan and find someone who has a garden with koi and ask them how much they paid for them.... 2000$ i guarentee will be the cheapest koi they have.
A wholesaler out here told me one of his clients in Japan bought a Koi for a $1 million dollars! (no lie and no exageration...) No that is crazy :)

fish are life
06/19/2006, 03:31 AM
my most expensive fish was a gold flake angel that i paid 400$ for and that was a good deal.

GreshamH
06/19/2006, 03:58 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7586232#post7586232 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zemuron114
people buy expensive fish for the same reason why people buy expensive cars, or antiques... there is no difference.

peppermint angels are found soooo deep, people can and sometimes do die when collecting them.. Hence the price tag :)

2000$ for a koi is chump change. Go to Japan and find someone who has a garden with koi and ask them how much they paid for them.... 2000$ i guarentee will be the cheapest koi they have.
A wholesaler out here told me one of his clients in Japan bought a Koi for a $1 million dollars! (no lie and no exageration...) No that is crazy :)

Beat me to the punch :D My friend sells prize koi starting at $10K and has several 100K's on hand.

I've sold a Clarion angel for $1.5K at the wholesale level :D

zemuron114
06/19/2006, 04:11 AM
koi.. i dont get it.. lol. Although i have to admit some are so beautiful they look like oil paintings. worth 10K+??? never!! 400$ is a pretty good deal on a goldflake. I see them all the time. They are very nice fish. Purple rhinopias go for about 300 wholesale, so asking 1200 is a huge mark up!!

chrismcfc
06/19/2006, 06:06 AM
Flame angels in the uk cost around the £60 mark thats pounds, you guys in the US should be grateful. Although everything in the UK seems to be priced by simple means, get the price in the US and then change the $ sign to a £. Thats why it's ripoff Britain. I've paid £90 for a Maroon pair.

moonpod
06/19/2006, 08:05 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7578630#post7578630 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by redrunblue
Conspic angels are interesting because the bigger ones are actually cheaper than the smaller ones. I saw a juvenile 2-3 inches go for $2000.

That's cause conspics usually come in pretty big. Smaller ones are much harder to find/come by and like most angels, large adults don't acclimate as well as smaller ones.

A Clarion at 1.5k is a deal because in actuality they should be completely unavailable because they're illegal to catch. Course you could be referring to "the old days" when they were available....but that was a long time ago.

Retail prices are usually about 2-3xwholesale and anything that's hard to find often gets a bit more of a premium

glassbox-design
06/19/2006, 08:12 AM
I've seen clarion's for 2k...hybrid tangs for 1-2k....there's a website that gets some pretty rare stuff in...i think it's the marinecenter? but am not sure. there are tons of rare fish and inverts that command 1k+

RichConley
06/19/2006, 08:18 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7580451#post7580451 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by thor32766
maybe some people like paying alot for a fish because it is cnet have to something in your tank, that is rarely seen. I paid 300 for my black tang and have no regrets. I love him to death.

I dont get it. Black Tangs are ugly. Its like owning a berka bag. An ugly overpriced, but very trendy item.

maroun.c
06/19/2006, 08:52 AM
Pepermint angel as well as another very ugly fish full of spines would cost around 10K each.
If I don't find the pics will have to take pics of both o
Reason why is that they are fond so deep which is risky for collectors also those fish need like 24 hours to be taken out to water surface after they are caught as they have to be properly decompressed.
Will post pics of them if I manage to find them back in my pics collection if not will take pics of both of them in my tank again:D
Just kidding.
As to why people would buy such expensive things well it's just human nature of wanting the rare and non avalable to everyone. A flame angel is more beautifull than the pepermint yet how many pepermints have any of us seen in real life?

Jonviviano
06/19/2006, 12:00 PM
looking for expensive fish? you guys will like this site...

http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/angelfish/japanesepygmyangel/

DaveG99
06/19/2006, 01:12 PM
I personaly do not care how rare a fish is. I like a fish for what it is not for how many there are. It just doesnt make sense buying something that costs 3-4 times what it should cost just because less people have them. That marinecenter site is way over priced. I think its funny how they say "if you see this fish buy it right away". They are trying real hard to sell these things.

CrystalAZ
06/19/2006, 01:19 PM
My most expensive fish are my 2 lineatus wrasse - one was $120 and the other was $150. I bought them because I think they are beautiful and wanted them.

Funny, a lot of people would think nothing of buying a rare coral for $200 just because it is rare. :D

Crystal

harper
06/19/2006, 01:39 PM
I have always thought the yellow tang was the most striking of the tangs, but so plentiful. Imagine if it were rare, people would line up to pay $400 for one. Look at the gem tang, cool fish but not really very pretty. I always try to think of what someone uninitiated would think of a fish. Remember when you first started how cool the damsels looked? Its funny that you have to be a fish geek to appreciate the black tang or gem.....Its nice there are many very nice looking fish in the generic section of the LFS.

KDodds
06/19/2006, 01:52 PM
Most expensive purchased? Quite a few in the $200 range. We just bought a pair of C. semilarvatus at $300. Most expensive fish I ever saw, offered for sale, in person? Probably a Clarion Angel that was going for over $5k. Although, I have heard of fishes going for more.

DaveG99
06/19/2006, 02:02 PM
I think one of the best looking fish is a Powder blue tang. And they are under $100. Also the emperor angel is beautiful! There are lots of great looking fish available for under $100. The flame angel is also one of the best looking fish an its about $35-$40. I really love my $3.99 green chromis!!!!

bigdee65
06/19/2006, 02:11 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7588957#post7588957 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by KDodds
Probably a Clarion Angel that was going for over $5k.

I have also seen the Clarion I believe you are talking about (in Elmsford) and I believe last I asked him the owner was offered $6K for it but didn't sell. He brought the fish in before they became illegal to catch so it has become "his" fish at the store.

I have also purchased a few fish that were in the 100-200 range and I didn't buy them because they were expensive or rare but because I thought they were amazing looking.

Some of the higher priced fish are ugly IMO but there is always going to be someone to shell out the cash for them.

KDodds
06/19/2006, 02:18 PM
Nope, this was in Clifton, NJ, at Absolutely Fish. Are you talking about the guy on Mamaroneck Ave?

SDguy
06/19/2006, 02:48 PM
Most expensive fish I ever bought was a navarchus angel for $140. Had it for many years in a FO tank. Worth every penny. Most expensive fish I've ever personally seen with my own eyes was an asfur angel for $800 back when all red sea fish were VERY expensive.

I remember clarions when they were obtainable and affordable. I wouldn't even have spent that much on one back then, IMO.

thor32766
06/19/2006, 04:20 PM
Hey richconely, thanks for the compliament. Hey daveg99, you know whats even dumber then spending a large amount of money on a fish is? Spending that amount on alcohol and ****ing it out the next day. Now thats what i call wasting money.

DaveG99
06/19/2006, 04:37 PM
I agree. Drinking can get expensive. But its entertainment with a good chance of getting laid. Well worth the $50 for a night.

Back to the fish....I want to see some pics of these $300+ fish !!! Someone post em up.

here are a few...
crosshatch trigger....$500-$600 actually looks pretty cool

http://www.marinecenter.com/media/photos/E332C71AB5184F858DBDFAEDD9BDCCB5.jpg

black tang $400-$500
http://www.marinecenter.com/media/photos/31DE81B35E094532933C2FC7A77E98EBE.jpg
Japanese pygmy angel $1200 YOU HAVE TO BE NUTS!!!
http://www.marinecenter.com/media/photos/F64CC430A35744BDBC4EB44DD7591D57I.jpg

purple scorpion fish $1200....Pet safari had one of these and it was only $400. Marine Center is WAY over priced!!! This one looks pretty neat though
http://www.marinecenter.com/media/photos/B3C50214FCB542E5827A03891CABFC9FT.jpg

bskiba
06/19/2006, 05:38 PM
It all depends on where you get your fish from and who you know. I spent $70 on my helfrichi firefish and 100 on my mysteri wrasse, I got the hook on on both. I am going to get a regal angel which my local store told me would be 250 but I will get it from somewhere else for 80. I was told by another friend who ownes a store that he could do me a favor and probably get me a goldflake angel at 130ish. probably wholesale price. a 3 ft blacktip reef sark is an hour away at 1500 which is ok. multicolor angel I passed on at 70 on saturday.

bigdee65
06/19/2006, 06:16 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7589129#post7589129 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by KDodds
Nope, this was in Clifton, NJ, at Absolutely Fish. Are you talking about the guy on Mamaroneck Ave?

I was talking about Jawz II in Elmsford, NY. The guy on Mamaroneck Ave closed down last month and at the time had a $3000 Dragon Moray, wonder what he did with that guy :)

mikekman
06/19/2006, 07:17 PM
If I had the money, I'd want several Gem Tangs!

Peppermint Angels are nice and expensive too. I think there was a thread were a Japanese reefer has a breeding pair.....

Subrafta
06/20/2006, 12:28 AM
Phishy Business often has fish in the $1000+ range, and they've got a great rep for high quality fish and coral. They also have $20 firefish ($150 if you want the Helfrichi variety) and I've bought $10 frags from them at swaps -- they don't play the "mark it way up and some noob will buy it" game.

http://www.phishybusiness.com/fish.php

McCrary
06/20/2006, 01:42 AM
Most expensive fish I have owned are probably the goldflake and chrysurus. I have a buddy who has a conspic, you can sometimes get them from Quality Marine (if you have access to wholesale) for $700. I am in Tucson (about 40 minutes from Mexico) and have heard of Clarion juveniles for $4000. They are getting more expensive as Border security increases. They are often passed off as passer angels, so I hear.

McCrary
06/20/2006, 01:44 AM
bskiba-

I have access to wholesale and I can't get a goldflake for less than $150, who do you go through?

zemuron114
06/20/2006, 03:10 PM
crosshatch triggers are very beautfiful fish. I think 400$ for a male isn't a bad price at all for retail. I think the marine center want 1000$ for a pair, which is the most ridicluous thing i've heard. lol I've had about 2 dozen crosshatches in the past 5 months. Very easy to come by for me since my friend catches them :)

I know for a fact i can get any fish in the pacific for less then the wholesalers charge in LA. :) Its great being in Hawaii!

bskiba
06/20/2006, 03:24 PM
A buddy of mine who has a shop was guessing 130 and he could be off by 20 or so. I will ask him. I dont remember who he had been buying through. sea-dwelling or someone else.

YoungReefer06
06/20/2006, 03:27 PM
marinecenter.com probally at leastfifty different fish for $500+

reefshadow
06/20/2006, 03:51 PM
If the purple scorpion fish eats the Japanese pygmy angel, is the scorpion then worth $2400?

Gluestick
06/20/2006, 07:18 PM
lmao :-D

erm.chan
06/20/2006, 07:41 PM
crosshatch trigger is 500-600?! I thought a male's around 300??
NOO!!! He's on my most wanted list too :(

RobbyG
06/20/2006, 08:04 PM
The funny thing is that 99% of people who look at a tank with a $1500 fish in it will probably be complimenting you on the $60 Queen Angel swimming next to it.

2004jeepoutlander
06/20/2006, 08:15 PM
some fish ive seen for sale

2004jeepoutlander
06/20/2006, 08:16 PM
some fish ive seen for sale golden puffer 499 chrysurus angel- 800 dragon eel- 1000 conspulatous ive seen back in the day when ffexpress was around for 2500.

2004jeepoutlander
06/20/2006, 08:23 PM
ive seen gold flakes for 130 on sea dwelling.

bskiba
06/20/2006, 08:28 PM
I thought I wasn't crazy. what are blue lines going for lately and how often are people seeing them?

reefnewbie54321
06/20/2006, 09:30 PM
Saltwater Fish is chump change compared to my first hobby, Koi. I have paid 6k for my most expensive Koi at a show and this was also one of the "cheap" ones compared to the rest for sale. When people look at my pond they probably cant tell the difference between my $80 Koi I got at the local pond store or the 6K Koi purchased at the Koi show but it doesn't bother me because I know the difference and to me it was worth it. I guess it kind of is about bragging right even though I probably don't brag to anyone about my show koi other then a few people at local pond shops. I like rare fish and will pay a lot for a rare fish just because its rare. I guess I would compare it to any other collectable hobby except I collect fish and have to have the rarest one. I wont buy a rare fish if its ugly though ... that is the one rule I have. I don't like the look of black tangs and wont buy one because I think its ugly even though it is "rare"

zemuron114
06/21/2006, 01:03 AM
u can find a male for 300 if you shop around. The Hawaiian ones go for more since there is only a handful of people who catch them here.

Koi... i still dont get it... lol :)

glbtrottr
06/21/2006, 10:53 AM
Koi are totally foreign to me. I just paid $100 for a Jawfish and felt taken! :)

copps
06/23/2006, 12:18 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7588957#post7588957 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by KDodds
Most expensive purchased? Quite a few in the $200 range. We just bought a pair of C. semilarvatus at $300. Most expensive fish I ever saw, offered for sale, in person? Probably a Clarion Angel that was going for over $5k. Although, I have heard of fishes going for more.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7589129#post7589129 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by KDodds
Nope, this was in Clifton, NJ, at Absolutely Fish. Are you talking about the guy on Mamaroneck Ave?

It's amazing how prices change over time due to various factors... I grew up in West Milford, NJ (although I played my youth hockey from 6 years old with the Ramapo Saints there in Suffern!) and remember seeing this exact fish store (Absolutely Fish used to be Aqua-Tropics) selling clarions in the $400 range (when they were legally collected), while asfur angels were $700 to $1000 (when Red Sea stuff was UP THERE! Purple tangs then were the black tangs of today)... it's funny how that works... go back in time 15 years and offer asfur angels for $100 and you'd make a killing... just as much as you would today selling clarions at $400...

I've got some fish that are up there... the place I worked at in high school (The Pet Place in Pompton Plains) got a black tang in and if ou think people look strangely at them today you should have seen then... it went for $350. I got my medium sized one a long while ago now for a great price ($225), yet the price for them has shot up due to various reasons recently. It was a perfect size too... as the black tangs have a habit of coming in either just out of the larval stage or 9"+ dinner plate size...

I've got some pricey fish, but the way I look at it is this... the enjoyment factor... being 28 and married with a little guy, I see many of my single friends burn what I spent on my black tang in one night in a bar! My black tang over years has given me much more enjoyment than one night at a bar... no reason to criticize people for what they pay for their fish... we all have our money pits... whatever fish brings you great enjoyment get it ( I do own many chep fish too)... I have an asfur angel and am excited about him... similar to a kid growing up in the hobby now being able to get a conspic for $100 in the future... what troubles me more is people who are in the hobby for three months and ask "what is rare... oh okay I want that..." That is different to me than some of us that have been in the hobby a long time, growing up in it, thinking we'd never be able to own some of these rare fish from around the world...

chucksta1
06/26/2006, 02:20 AM
Maybe I missed something here....

There was a pole about what a salt tank costs to set up. The responses were that it was in the thirty to fifty dollars a gallon range. That being the case, the fish are the cheapest thing in the tank, and also the most vivid visual parts of the the tank. I run a lightly stocked tank. Whether the ten fish I've got cost a total of seventy or seven hundred really doesn't mater. Everyone seems to be stuck on how much a fish costs here or there. It doesn't matter. what it costs in Nebraska, California or Toronto is what it costs, there's not much you can do about it.

You could also think about it as a time /enjoyment factor. I own a thirty year old Harmon Kardon receiver, arguably a classic with world class sound. In todays money, it has cost me, including repairs, about a grand. It also has 4 hours a day times 365 a year, times thirty years worth of use, for a total of 42000 hours of use. What does that work out to per hour? Virtually free. By the same token, If I look at the tank an hour a day (at least) and a fish lives ten years, what does it really cost to have the fish I really want swimming in front of me? Compared to a cheaper fish, I'd rather buy what I want. In the long run, it's worth it. I've got seven dollar fish and seventy dollar fish. I bought them because they were what I wanted, not for what they cost. The only thing I ever do to reduce the cost is wait until the one I want is on sale (the LFS tells me whether or not that will happen).

Submit to your passion. You'll be happier.

Texsun
06/26/2006, 09:26 AM
Freshwater definitely takes the cake in terms of pricey fish. Koi, arowana, flowerhorn... pick your FW fish of the month and you will be regularly paying $1k+ to get your foot in the door; $5-10K for first rate stuff not being out of the realm of possibility. Glad I gave that up and went with cheap salty fish... :)

zemuron114
06/26/2006, 09:43 PM
i remember when i went into a LFS when i was 16 i think (im 21 now so it isn't a big jump in age.. lol) i saw a male lineatus. It wasn't a full blown male but a nice one with distinctive coloring... then looking at the price (275$) I was like AHHH. No way i could afford that at 16 (well i could but i would hear it from my dad... :))
Now i import them directly from Australia... At obviously much cheaper prices. However, now that i have experience with them, if i had to, i would not hesitate to buy a nice healthy one for around 250$. I had one that was sooooooo hard to let go.. it was hands down the nicest lineatus i have ever seen... blew away the one pictured on marinecenter.com!!! :( he went to a good home though.

same with crosshatches! I've always wanted a pair when i started the hobby, but couldn't find a decent price... moved to Hawaii, hooked up with a diver, and now i've had about 2 dozen in the past 6 months.. lol They are great fish as well!

2004jeepoutlander
06/29/2006, 01:32 AM
actauly that conspic angel i guess that it what jdizz was talking 1500 is a good deal especailly with a14 da y gurantee. i mean ive seen then in the past years for 2500. the marine centrew had one a few mobnths ago for 2500. as for the price of flame angels welll. prices have risen latly things just arent as cheap as they used to be. Trust me i know i do some whole sale stuff at one of the lfs in my area.

Nano Chris
06/29/2006, 01:50 AM
I dont think i would buy a fish over $100 as we all know fish die, and you know that $1,000 fish will die, if you have that much money to spend on one fish, you must be into this hobby a lot, or just have money to blow.

NexDog
06/29/2006, 11:01 AM
I just paid $250 for a baby 1" Red Sea Regal Angel. I can get 4" Indo Regals for $50 all day long but the Rea Sea variety are pricey here and you might see a baby 1" specimen once a year. Just hoping for success with the little guy.

bskiba
06/29/2006, 11:09 AM
I always hear that the small ones are more expensive on the lists.

PRESTO2345
06/29/2006, 12:14 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7650141#post7650141 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Criminal#58369
I dont think i would buy a fish over $100 as we all know fish die, and you know that $1,000 fish will die, if you have that much money to spend on one fish, you must be into this hobby a lot, or just have money to blow.

Some people spend that money on their car, home entertainment system, movie or music collection, etc. All of those items eventually die or become outdated. We just like to invest our time and effort into reef keeping...:D :beer: :thumbsup:

Tu Ku
06/29/2006, 01:12 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7576642#post7576642 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gluestick
You guys should totally check this out, it's insane... http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/CatDisplay.cfm?sku=0089698000000&siteid=20


Foster and Smith are officially fuggin idiots.

McCrary
06/29/2006, 03:20 PM
Why?

Timbor
06/29/2006, 05:04 PM
I find it funny that nobody has mentioned the prices people pay for other pets, such as dogs. My parents bought an Irish Setter puppy a couple of years ago for like $800. Then you could look at dogs like great danes... probably a few k for a pup. That's the price people pay for something they want.

Now, I wonder, how do you tell the difference between a $50 koi from your LFS and some $10K super-koi from Japan? It would be funny if you could trick some koi-fanatic into paying you 1K for a fish you bought for $50...

Tim

thor32766
06/29/2006, 06:38 PM
boy now i am feeling bad about spending 2K on my english bulldog, thanks for the reminder~

Timbor
06/29/2006, 06:45 PM
Hey, just convince somebody that the koi swimming in your pond is from some rare Japanese breeding line, then sell it to him. You can recoup your loss and even make a buck or two!

I mean, as long as HE thinks its a rare, expensive fish, everything is ok. Nobody needs to know that you bought it for $15 at your LFS. We'll just keep that between you and me! ;)

Tim

iamwhatiam52
06/29/2006, 09:29 PM
Livestock is cheap at any price when you compare it to the cost of the equipment and the electric bill.

LauraCline
06/29/2006, 09:56 PM
Fish just aren't worth that much especially here in Florida where a few months of the year you're under the risk of loss due to extended power loss. Of course some of the fish I want are expensive but, in the scheme of things I can get as much enjoyment from a fish that costs $50-$100 as one that costs $1200 - I'd have more time off work to actually look at the fish, lol.

alikatoes
06/30/2006, 08:58 PM
I have seen Hawaiian Dragon Morays go for $2000 plus. I know the G. personatus, Hawaiian Masked angel retails for nearly $3500 a pair!

freedive43
06/30/2006, 09:40 PM
I've been collecting fish in Hawaii for the past 13 years. During that time I've known three divers who were paralyzed due to the bends. Many divers, including myself, have been subject to milder cases of decompression sickness all in the pursuit of rare and unusual fish to satiate the collective whims of hobbyists with money. I've caught fish that I've sold for thousands of dollars and heard of fish from Africa that have sold for 7K. The risk for the diver descending to 200"+ is why the fish cost so much. The future of rare fish collection in Hawaii is about to change though. Myself and alikatoes are investing in 15k rebreathers that will allow us to collect at depths of up to 500". Now that will be some rare fish. How much do you think someone would pay for the first fish of its kind to be discovered? What do you think they'd pay the collector to name it after them? Some people have way too much money - that's what hobbies are for...

NexDog
06/30/2006, 10:18 PM
Would a fish that lives at the cool depth at 500ft survive in our hot boxes?

DragonMorayEels
06/30/2006, 10:22 PM
Well my pair of Dragon eels were $2,400 for both with the female costing me $900 and the male at $1,500 and later when finally my reef tanks be ready, I will be looking to get some high price fish with the spotted tang for about $1,500 and I not at this moment remember the name of this dwarf angel, but a pair will run about $5,000 I think and if later the clarions become available again, I be looking for a pair there as well, that would be another $5,000. As well I no idea what the redface moray eels cost, I`ll be getting a pair of those as well.

Buddy

freedive43
07/01/2006, 04:13 AM
Yes, fish like the sunset basslet,sunset wrasse and holanthis
thrive in captivity. If deep water fish didn't survive there would be no market for them.

massman
07/01/2006, 08:53 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7582150#post7582150 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by steve the plumb
If someone drops a net catches 100 fish and says this is worth this amount and thats worth that amount then its a differant ballgame.Less effort to catch a wildfish and place a price tag on it.

Oh really!
You ever tried catching any!
I'll give you a big tip, unless you know what what you are doing, (based on YEARS of experience) catching fish is not as easy as you would think.

PiscesLou
07/01/2006, 09:06 AM
Gem tang anybody?I havent seen an actual price, anyone know?

bskiba
07/01/2006, 12:32 PM
I saw one in Ca for 1500 two years ago.

GreshamH
07/01/2006, 01:03 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7661975#post7661975 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by freedive43
I've been collecting fish in Hawaii for the past 13 years. During that time I've known three divers who were paralyzed due to the bends. Many divers, including myself, have been subject to milder cases of decompression sickness all in the pursuit of rare and unusual fish to satiate the collective whims of hobbyists with money. I've caught fish that I've sold for thousands of dollars and heard of fish from Africa that have sold for 7K. The risk for the diver descending to 200"+ is why the fish cost so much. The future of rare fish collection in Hawaii is about to change though. Myself and alikatoes are investing in 15k rebreathers that will allow us to collect at depths of up to 500". Now that will be some rare fish. How much do you think someone would pay for the first fish of its kind to be discovered? What do you think they'd pay the collector to name it after them? Some people have way too much money - that's what hobbies are for...

IIRC, it's the describing scientist that names the fish, sorry. A friend of mine has brought up a few undesribes, only to recieve zero reconigtion for it. I guess they didn't like his name "Candy *** bass" :D

ChickenCannoneer
07/01/2006, 01:08 PM
I cant belive that some people would pay thousands for a fish but if that is what you want to have I guess it all comes down to what that person wants.

Tim

davocean
07/01/2006, 03:26 PM
My friend works at birch aquarium.
Last year they bought 4 leafy sea dragons at $4,000 a piece!
$16,000 for 4 fish, and when they arrived they had air in their stomache's that made them float to the surface and they almost died right away.
They had to remove air with a hypo and med them.
Now can you imagine spending $16,000 for 4 fish and have them die right away!?

menard
07/01/2006, 04:14 PM
How much do you think Asian Red Dragon Arowana cost ? Any body wanna give a shot.? :D

reefinmike
07/01/2006, 04:33 PM
$23,000?

Ilia
07/01/2006, 04:55 PM
The most expenisve fish I've bought would have to be a mystery wrasse for $300 and a helfrichi firefish pair for $140.

What I don't understand is why people keep insisting that you have to be crazy to pay a lot of money for a fish. If a person has the money to spend on a fish, then why not? If I had the money for a lamborghini it would be parked in the driveway.

menard
07/01/2006, 05:03 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7665187#post7665187 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefinmike
$23,000? Try 30 G's.:)http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f146/reefdweller/image02.jpg

Timothy01
07/01/2006, 11:25 PM
it's only worth as much as you will pay for it. if i had the money and a larger tank i would have no problem throwing away a few 1000 dollars for some nice rare fish. better then throwing it away at the bar or for drugs( a friend of mine told me herion addics can go through 3k + a day) its not for the rareity its for the fact that some of the fish i would like to have in a tank would cost me a couple bonus checks.

TheBadGuy
07/01/2006, 11:32 PM
Most I ever spent was $130 on a Clown Trigger. He made it 24 hours :(

ACBlinky
07/02/2006, 01:01 AM
The most expensive fish I've seen with my own eyes was a baby arowana priced at $10 000.

I think the most I've spent is $80CD for a Potter's, which promptly died on me. I've lost three now; all together I've spent somewhere around $200-$250 on a fish I don't have. My flagfin was priced at $120CD, but I bought him for about half that (I worked at the LFS at the time).

A fellow hobbyist visited me and I gave him a tour of my tanks. He didn't give a second look to any of the angels, but went NUTS over my $5 Talbot's damsel. They don't swim around with price tags on; I agree, buy a fish because you like it -- the only one who knows how much it cost (or didn't cost) is you :D

Serioussnaps
07/02/2006, 01:02 AM
I have seen a "wrought iron" angel of some sort at the LFS that cost 2800 US. A weird lion that was like 700. A dragon moray that cost 1K US to 1300. Wrasses that range from 100-500. A few other fish that cost around 1500 but cant remember exactly what they were because it is the only time i have seen them. Some LFS get a variation of a fish that you just wont see again unless you Dive and all you do is look for different variations of species. Not to mention expensive mated pairs of angels like the french angel.

Aside from all of this the most ive spent on a fish was 70 bucks, so my tastes pale in comparison to what i have seen some people buy.(someone bought them because they werent there after a while.)

Serioussnaps
07/02/2006, 01:03 AM
I want a gem tang!!!!!!!!pm me if you wanna sell one!!!!!!!but 23K for that fish.....u must have lost your damn mind

alikatoes
07/02/2006, 06:32 PM
IIRC, it's the describing scientist that names the fish, sorry. A friend of mine has brought up a few undesribes, only to recieve zero reconigtion for it. I guess they didn't like his name "Candy *** bass" :D [/QUOTE]

Whats IIRC? and what do you need to be a offical describing scientist? If I know my ichthyology well and do all the clads, mers, etc., who is to say I cant name a fish? How does it work? If its the first species described, you document all your descriptions, and no one else has that info, it seems like no one can really say what the name should be. If you know anymore about this procedure please let me know

glbtrottr
07/02/2006, 06:58 PM
If I Recall Correctly - IIRC

zens
09/13/2006, 05:02 PM
i've seen show koi go for a few hundred thousand.

chrismunn
09/13/2006, 06:11 PM
i wanna know why that dude in greece was so PO'ed? what the currency exchange rate from US dollars to the EURO?

chrismunn
09/13/2006, 06:15 PM
oh yes, and in japan, there is a certain color variation that goes for much more than any of the other koi's. that the plain colored fish with one big orange dot on the head. to the japanese it represents thier flag, and thier culture, and thats why thier willing to spend so much more on that particular color, as opposed to a regular colored koi.
i learned that while i was away on a boring buisness trip. but i have no idea how much they charge for them?

thor32766
09/13/2006, 07:16 PM
yeah I have seen gem tangs sell regurlary for 3,000.00 They just sold one on marinelive and liveaquria and they sold rather quickly.

yamaha racer
09/13/2006, 07:22 PM
i was talking to a guy in hawaii and he dives down and colects some kind of angle and he sells them foe $1200,

CThomas609
09/13/2006, 08:04 PM
One of my co-workers sold a purple rhinopius (sp?) for $1,100 a couple weeks ago... a lot of money but wow was that fish gorgous. When I say purple I mean PURPLE, and it was stressed too...

miwoodar
09/13/2006, 10:11 PM
I can't believe some of the prices quoted in this thread - absurd! A fish is a fish. Maybe if it could talk or sing or get into the fridge and thaw food for itself I might be willing to pay more. Until then I'm capped at $100 - and before I spend that much the fish better look like it is fit enough to swim across the ocean.

Tang_Cool
09/14/2006, 04:47 AM
The most i've paid for a fish was a $45 Blue Tang, that is Australian dollars though, lol so more like $30 US

Snakebyt
09/14/2006, 06:20 AM
i am kinda used to spending alot of money on animals, when i was doing reptiles, i had several $300+ lizards, a few $500+ snakes. It can get really expensive

zens
09/14/2006, 07:00 AM
chump change. try $300,000 on a glorified carp.

Meisen
09/14/2006, 08:00 AM
The one I am curious about is the yellowstripe hogfish.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?ddid=9691&siteid=20

Not super expensive.....but has anyone have any luck with them? When I worked for a LFS, we got one in but it only lived about five minutes after coming out of the bag. It doesnt even look like a hogfish to me not to mention its so tiny.

loosbrew
09/14/2006, 09:40 AM
eh, theyre just designer stuff or rare, and sometimes its about being rare, and sometimes people just want what they want.

$500 snakes is pocket lint compared to what some people are doing with ball pythons. just google ball python morphs and noticed that there are like 30 or so different genetic color variations and such. bob clark produced the first albino reticulated pythons from a wild caught specimen that he paid 75k for. its not uncommon to see designer ball pythons morphs go for 10K - 60K
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/gallery_pics/ball_pics/piebald/5.jpg

when that snake came out it was over 25k. I say all of this because at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you think its worth, its worth as much as someone will pay for it. So if I wanted a peppermint angel, and had the cash, who cares what anyone anywhere thinks its worth? Many people think its worth $150 - $300 per month just to smoke cigarettes, which is the biggest waste of money, it doesnt even get you high!

lue.





<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8142966#post8142966 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Snakebyt
i am kinda used to spending alot of money on animals, when i was doing reptiles, i had several $300+ lizards, a few $500+ snakes. It can get really expensive

Rossini
09/14/2006, 09:58 AM
Who in there right mind would want to keep a rare fish?! To me its not right moraly.

addicted_2_reef
09/14/2006, 10:15 AM
I paid 200.00 for a Majestic Angel about 10 years ago and I still feel guilty about it. I want a harlequin tuskfish but the LFS wants 118.00 for it and I just can't bring myself to buy it. But, people pay a lot more for baseball cards so its all relative I guess.


-B

eskymick
09/14/2006, 10:16 AM
Expensive fish aren't necessarily rare (in nature) .. just rarely seen in the aquarium trade ... sometimes due to distance from market and collection areas.

I've been looking for a Semilarvatus Butterfly for years. I believe they are very common but only in the Red Sea area. However, they usually are priced well over $100.

I lucked out last week .. my LFS had a 4" Semilarvatus markes at only $36. He's doing great in my tank. ;-)

bskiba
09/14/2006, 10:24 AM
big difference between rare and rare in captivity. people aren't getting fish on the endangered species list just not as common and hard to catch because they live deep or in few locations. Just like the Gem tangs. They come from one place and one person collects there.

downset
09/14/2006, 10:32 AM
The first site posted
Those prices are really high,I spend alot on my fish and corals but overpaying is silly :p I know a few retailers that charge less than half what liveaquaria has posted there

Fcataudo
09/14/2006, 10:53 AM
Enchelycore pardalis
$2999.99

miwoodar
09/14/2006, 11:11 AM
Enchelycore pardalis - I'm guessing Google just had a strange blip on their lookup charts.

john37
09/14/2006, 11:22 AM
i bought a rhinopias frondosa a while back for a little over $100. was fun while it lasted.

RichConley
09/14/2006, 11:44 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7667159#post7667159 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ACBlinky

A fellow hobbyist visited me and I gave him a tour of my tanks. He didn't give a second look to any of the angels, but went NUTS over my $5 Talbot's damsel. They don't swim around with price tags on; I agree, buy a fish because you like it -- the only one who knows how much it cost (or didn't cost) is you :D

I think thats the whole point here, and well put.


It just drives me nuts when someone spends $1000 on a fish because it is "Rare" and "trendy" and it ends up being ugly. Buy a fish because you like its behavior and looks, not because its rare.

I got not problem with people spending $500 on a C. Interruptus..theyre gorgoeus, but $500 on a black tank? The $14 yellow tang is the same fish.

miwoodar
09/14/2006, 12:51 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8144828#post8144828 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RichConley
I think thats the whole point here, and well put.


It just drives me nuts when someone spends $1000 on a fish because it is "Rare" and "trendy" and it ends up being ugly. Buy a fish because you like its behavior and looks, not because its rare.

I got not problem with people spending $500 on a C. Interruptus..theyre gorgoeus, but $500 on a black tank? The $14 yellow tang is the same fish.

I hear what you're laying down!

tkeracer619
09/14/2006, 01:35 PM
l0l @ loosbrew, I quite smoking cigs about 4 years ago. I smoked a pack a day. That means I saved over $5,000 and several sore throats Since.

I just ordered a few expensive wrasses and one of those high dollar tangs. Can't wait till they get here.

alikatoes
09/15/2006, 01:48 PM
What kind of wrasses and tangs did you order?

bobafett
09/18/2006, 11:07 AM
I have seen a clarion angel at my LFS listed for $5000. They get rare fish quite often and when they do they usually sell within two weeks so someone out there is willing to pay those rediculous prices.

ajukes
09/18/2006, 01:50 PM
yep i agree, the USA is cheap so shuddit you moaners! (LOL)
i paid £350 for my dwarf golden moray......so there

bskiba
09/18/2006, 03:14 PM
dont get started about discounts in the USA. The only place that should really complian is Japan but they get the best stuff. In London Deltec is half of what it is here.

Teremei
09/18/2006, 03:30 PM
The most I've spent is a medium sized (adolescent aged) blue tang $59.95. We have a fish store near me that gets alot of wrasse in stock. I've seen them sell a Lineatus wrasse there for $300. And that's slightly overcharging because you should beable to get one for $250.

On and I think I saw some kind of rare eel at another one of my stores for about $1,200.