Livestock order

[jandlms]

Okay folks. You asked for it . What livestock do you want and where should we order it from. I realize a few of you left your wants and needs on the other thread, but please put them on this thread also.
Has anybody had any success with some of the newer businesses posting on the web such as Sharky's or BlueZoo Aquatics? Sound off here and get your two cents worth in quick. I think an order placed at the beginning of next week would be a good starting off point. I can act as the delivery point if you all are agreeable with the idea.
jandlms

[DebsSisterFlo]

I'm open for referrals... someone reliable who'll stand behind their product is what I'm looking for... with a great price of course!

[kass03]

I had a bad experience at Sharkys.
I ordered zoa's last year and they sent me different ones than I ordered.
Then they told me they'd give me $40 credit and I keep the zoa's they sent. I said OK. Then they told me they have a minimum order of $100 and I had to spend $100 again to get my credit.
I'm like but but but you sent me the wrong items ( it was more than 1) that's not right.
It took some fighting but they finally sent my money back instead.
I would have taken the credit had they not make me spend another $100.

I REALLY do like their zoa's though. I just don't like the policy of minimum $100 order if something goes wrong.
I would maybe give them a second chance though. Their pictures look like they have nice stuff lol.

Let us know where you plan to order.

That can be a problem to as some want fish, shrimp and some want corals. Some places don't have alot of both.
I still have $40 in credit from reefscience to lol from a yr ago but don't wanna spend $50 in shipping to get it.

kass

[kiowascout]

I ordered from Blue zoo. I got some snails.

They were super nice and shipped everything packaged as you would expect.

The livestock seemed to do OK despite the fact that Fedex left the package on my back porch in April without even knocking on the door in 50 degree weather!

I think that I had considerably short lives on those animals due to this.

But, their service was great and they were ready to make it right even though it was Fedex that screwed up.

[kiowascout]

Oh, sorry for the double, I'd be interested in a royal gramma and maybe a pair of ocellaris or perculas.

[nellie54914]

I haven't actually gotten anything from Sharky's and his stuff looks good, but I tried to get an order a couple times and it didn't work out. 1 order had a starfish in it and I waited a couple weeks to ship it (he had something going on that delayed it) then when he was finally ready to ship it he said it wasn't looking healthy so my order was cancelled. Which I can appreciate, I don't want someone to send me something that's going to die right away frm the stress of shipping. Then it got better and I was going to get that and a RBTA, some hermits and some other stuff about a month later after the starfish was doing better, but then when he was going to ship it he changed his mind and said starfish was a no-go again. And then my order was too small. So anyway, I didn't get anything bad from there, it just didn't go smooth. That was over a year ago though, and I wouldn't think it was typical.

I've never gotten aything from Reeftopia but I've read a lot of good stuff about it. Looks like a great place to get cleaning crew, shrimp, etc, great prices on those. But if people are looking for fish the selection is very limited, and just has some gorgonians and mushrooms/ricordia.

I don't need anything so I wouldn't be going in on this anyway, just throwing out some info for anyone who's interested. :)

[jandlms]

Reeftopia has great stuff, but a limited assortment. Their prices are very good also. I just thought that maybe someone had found someplace new to order from. Places seem to pop up on the web on a daily basis. When consensus is reached on where to shop I will figure out what to order. By the way BlueZoo Aquatics looked interesting.
jandlms

[DebsSisterFlo]

what about saltwaterfish.com?

[kiowascout]

I have purchased twice from saltwaterfish.com

very hardy animals. service is iffy though. They dont ship right away, but i think that they may be willing to work with you on that. I've never tried to talk to an actual human being there, so I cannot comment on service.

[basicsafty]

I am looking for a small, unusual, goby and some LPS/Zoos.

Liveaquaria actually seems to have a pretty good selection right now. I don't see anything at reeftopia that looks interesting, I'll have to look through bluezoo when I get off work.

[jandlms]

Doesn't Liveaquaria.com seem a little expensive for what you get? I also hope we can find a place that has a little more variability in the corals that are purchased. What I mean is that the info - 2 to 3" piece of caulastrea for 29.99 - doesn't tell me much. Boy do I miss Gooch's corals.
jandlms

[jmkarcz]

Agreed....

Tagging along... I'd like to put something with this order when an agreement on where from is reached. I'm good for at least a couple items... Jon knows I never seem to get enough angels... or Grammas... I wish I was ready for that 300 to be filled, I wanted to add like 20 grammas and 15 pygmy angels... but we can save that for a different order.


I know this is elementry, but what are the sites for Blue Zoo and Sharky's? I made a quick pass, and got some shopping mall and something about a beer made by Sharky himself....

J

[jandlms]

I just got the sale prices from saltwaterfish.com. They seem pretty good and with free shipping on orders over $79.......
Check them out: Royal Grammas $9.99
Bicolor Blennies $9.99
Purple Pseudochromis $9.99
Redlip Blennies $9.99
Pygmy Angels $9.99
Lawnmower Blennies $9.99
Flame Cardinals $9.99
Chalk Basslets $9.99
Porcupine Puffers $14.99
Turbo/Astrea Snails - Group of 10 $9.99
Nassarius Snails - Group of 10 $9.99
Blueleg Hermit Crabs - Group of 10 $9.99
Scarlet Hermit Crabs - Group of 10 $29.99
Emerald Crabs - Group of 3 11.99
Lettuce Nudibranch $4.99
Ricordea Mushroom Polyps $7.99
Shaving Brush Plant - Group of 5 $15.99
Jawfish $14.99
Sally Lightfoot Crabs $9.99
Umbrella Mushroom Polyps $7.99
Coral Banded Shrimp $7.99
Arrow Crabs $7.99
Cleaner Clams $5.99
Pink Tip Haitian Anemones $9.99
Chocolate Chip Stars $9.99
Orange Tree Sponge $24.99
Red Tree Sponge $24.99
Orangeback Basslets $15.99
Decorator Crabs $6.89
Porcelain Crabs $6.99
Sand Sifting Cucumber $7.99
Caribbean Pistol Shrimp $9.99
Radiata Lionfish $59.99
Blackcap Basslets $34.99
Yellow Tangs $19.99
Niger Triggers $19.99
plus lots of other great deals!!

At these prices, Jason you may want to order those grammas and angels.
jandlms

[jmkarcz]

Little high on the Black caps... at 35$, we got em' last time for 14... but I'll take the following...

2 - jawfish (listed only as such - not the tigers) 15$ ea
2 - Coral Banded shrimp. 8$ ea
2 - pygmy angel fish. 10$ each

For a total so far of: 66 + anything you need for s+h - I trust same arrangements as the last couple times... or I can drop cash early...I may add to this, but this should get things started. I will pm you my new # for my hip.



Jason

[jandlms]

Jason, Slow down. I just threw this posting up. I don't know that the group wants to go with Saltwaterfish.com. I take it your vote is yes. For what its worth my vote also.
Everybody else out there chime in so we can get this going quickly.
jandlms

[jmkarcz]

Ok



I'll also take a Mushroom Polyp - Green Ricordea add 8$...

74$

:D :D :D


Jason


I'm gonna log off for awhile now...

[kiowascout]

Jason,

www.bluezooaquatics.com

[DebsSisterFlo]

looks like several would like to order from saltwaterfish.com, so I'll put my vote in as a yes as well... they sure are lower in price in peppy shrimp than bluezoo!

[jandlms]

I think three was the magic number. Lets give saltwaterfish.com a try this time. The minimum for free shipping was only $79 and I think Jason passed that by himself.
Start sending me your list of items so that I can put the order together. I would like to send the order on Friday with it shipped out on Monday if possible.
Thanks,
jandlms

[DebsSisterFlo]

my order:
Peppermint Shrimp - Group of 5 - $19.99

oh argh! Well that's all for now... gotta do some research before I add anything else!

[RCS]

I've had orders in from multiple places (Sharky's Reef, Reeftopia, LiveAquaria, Fraggle Reef, Just Coral, Under the Sea Coral...I could go on and on). I've never dealt with saltwaterfish.com thought, so I'm no help there. F&S (liveaquaria) has always been my first choice for actual fish. For corals, it's kind of whatever they've got on hand. Does swfish.com have a similar guarantee to LA?

I'm nowhere near reaqdy to order anything right now, but in a couple months I'll likely be placing orders from a variety of places every couple weeks, or at least once a month. I'll always ask at that point.

[kiowascout]

I'll take the following

royal gramma $9.99

Lettuce Nudibranch $4.99

Frogspawn coral $17.99

Total $32.97

If you get it on Monday, I wouldnt be able to pick up until after 8pm that day.... would that be a problem?


Dan

[jandlms]

I would order on Friday. It would be shipped on Monday and arrive on Tuesday.
Your items are added to the order.
jandlms

[DebsSisterFlo]

update since I can no longer edit...

Orange Linkia Starfish $19.99
Peppermint Shrimp - Group of 5 - $19.99
total: $39.98

[RCS]

You know, I can likely throw together a couple of 10g tanks for these guys, so if you put the order together, put me down for these:

1 group of 5 peppermint shrimp
5 lettuce nudibranchs

I've bred both in the past and am hoping to start again. If their sexy shrimp weren't so expensive, I'd grab some of them too...

[jandlms]

RCS and Debssisterflo. Your orders have been added to the master list.
Anybody out there know if they have any price discounts for larger amounts ordered. This is really starting to add up with only a few people in so far.
Keep the ordrs coming people!
jandlms

[basicsafty]

Here's mine:

Persian Sand Conch - Aquacultured $7.99
Porcelain Crab $6.99
Mushroom Polyp - Green Ricordea $7.99

[Limpit]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7907942#post7907942 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jandlms
Anybody out there know if they have any price discounts for larger amounts ordered. This is really starting to add up with only a few people in so far.
Keep the ordrs coming people!
jandlms

I have ordered from them a couple of times, never any quantity discount but instead they give you free livestock depending on how much you have ordered.

Just a word of caution on Saltwaterfish.com. IF you have problems with your order don't look for great customer service like you find with F&S and some of the other vendors out there. They have pretty sucky customer service.
Not to burst anyones fun with the group order, just something that myself and others have found out.

Ron

[kiowascout]

John,

how do you want payment?

Dan

[jandlms]

No H.
Jon
My parents didn't want me burdened my whole life with a useless letter.
Payment when they are picked up. I won't even make the order until noon on Friday.
I know some have raised concerns about a non-payer stiffing me with the livestock, but I am willing to try this and TRUST everyone.
To all of you ordering, PLEASE do not mess this up. I really think it would only take a bad experience or two for me to say to he*#! with it all.
jandlms

[jmkarcz]

I don't think the last couple I was in on with jon were dazzeling, just credit the stuff that didn't survive shipping .... Everyone should realize by now what a quarantine tank is....

J

[jandlms]

It is kind of a crapshoot when you are dealing with livestock that you don't see before you buy. Even the what you see is what you get type of sale can be disappointing when you see what can and has been done to livestock pictures with a little computer enhancement. The prices and the selection just keep me coming back to mailorder every so often.
Keep the orders coming folks. Monday at noon is the deadline. I want to order at 12:30 or so.
jandlms

[jandlms]

OOPS! I meant Friday at noon for the deadline. I want the stuff shipped out on Monday for arrival Tuesday morning.
Sorry!
jandlms

[mako56]

I will wait for the next one or order myself maybe, Tuesday just won't work for me, to run to your place from mine would cost me 15-20 bucks in gas and my time I probably can come up with a $79.00 order on my own anyways. I have ordered from them before and the stuff was ok.

[jmkarcz]

I will offer to anyone who wants, that if they want, I can shuffle stuff from jons place to my place to save anextra 12 minutes of drive time.... I live near Fleet Farm West... if that will help anyone...

Let me know well in advance.

Jason

[Aquabucket]

Don't know why you guys want to support an outfit like saltwaterfish.com ~ especially with a large order. You would all be better off going with liveaquaria IMO. Saltwaterfish often bans members of their own forums who complain of poor customer service and faulty orders. A company such as this does not deserve your business. Check out some of the vendor feedback forums here and you will see what I mean. Liveaquaria is a far better choice hands down.

[kass03]

FYI about the lettuce nudis it says limit 2.
Also I read in vender feedback theres about an $18 surcharge so shipping is'nt really free.

Ive never ordered from them so can't comment myself. I have seen bad feedback for them though.
What bothered me is theres no phone number if something goes wrong. It's all emails.

I doubt I'll order anything anyway lol so don't go by me.
I think the fish and inverts might be ok but don't like to order corals if it is'nt wyswyg.

Jason was that a joke about putting 20 grammas and 15 pygmy angels in a 300? lol

kass

[jandlms]

Well folks!
You can see the feedback from Kass and Spike regarding saltwaterfish.com. Do we still go ahead with the order? It makes no nevermind to me (i'm just doing the ordering- my actual part of the order only amounts to about $30 at this time).
We can look for another vendor if that is the groups consensus.
Let me know soon.

[Aquabucket]

They have a bad rating by the Better Business Bureau, no phone number to contact, block e-mails of unhappy customers and have a bad track record with large orders.

Why support such a business when we have a highly regarded in-state company like Dr. Foster's and Smith?

[RCS]

Well, if they're limiting the number of lettuce nudis, then it doesn't make any sense for me to keep my order then. Let me know if you decide to switch vendors...LA has good deals on Sexy shrimp!

[jandlms]

Its your call folks. The feedback is both good and bad. The BetterBusiness Bureau ( www.bbb.org) under the search for saltwaterfish.com gives them a satisfactory rating. Maybe I'm doing the search incorrectly Spike.
jandlms

[Aquabucket]

It might have changed. I looked into them about 6 months or so ago. It really is up to you guys though. My feelings are this ~ if they choose to screw over just a few of their customers that's enough for me to not support their business.

Here are some quotes from some unhappy customers:

"Its like flipping a coin. You may get a decent order or you may not. If your not satisfied the chances of getting any issues resolved are slim to none." ~ NiTr0x911

"If you have a problem with your order. Good luck contacting them by phone. Apparently this is their easy way out - not dealing with unhappy customers. I suppose you stand 50/50 chance of recieving a good order though." ~ Melody

"I have had good experiances and I also had a bad. They have NO number to call to speak to anyone. IMO you can find a much better vendor to buy from. I personally will not buy from them again. I had some inverts die, sent emails and got rude reply, then posted to their board. It was removed as from the board and the thread deleted." ~ Texas Dolly

"My experience with them has been terrible. I have threads in this forum describing my ordeal. They provide ZERO customer service if you have an issue. They went so far as blocking my ability to send them e-mail when I tried to resolve my problems with them. As you've probably noticed, they provide no phone number for contact. As was recommended above, do a search here and you will find many others with similar, bad experiences. Do your research on this place, you'll be glad you did." ~ Norm R

Check out this thread:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=567702&highlight=saltwaterfish

[jandlms]

The Better Business Bureau rates them as satisfactory for the past year. There is no rating available beyond that. They also list approximately a dozen complaints that have gone through them that apparently aren't enough to raise a flag for the bbb. Maybe 13 complaints causes them to be unsatisfactroy. I don't know their criteria for ratins.

I think the main reasons for looking at saltwaterfish.com were.
1. Prices - A pygmy angel for swf costs 9.99 while LA charges 23.99.
2. Selection - they haev some things in stock that other organizations like reeftopia just don't stock.
3. The urge to try someplace different and see what their critters are like.

This has been a good discussion folks but it is time to fish or cut bait.

By the way RCS I have an email to SWF to see about your 5 nudis. In either case I believe that we can "sneak" your five through because we are a group.
I am slo checking on the "surcharge" and whatever games they are playing with shipping.

Do we go through with the order tomorrow? Reply ASAP.

jandlms

[kiowascout]

the fees for the order are

$9.99 surcharge (I think this is like a box fee or something)

and a $6.99 fuel surcharge that the shipper has imposed upon them.

This is what they charged me on my last order which was only two weeks ago.

The stories about customer service are correct. it is impossible to contact them unless they want to be contacted. But, I think I alluded to that on the first page of this thread.

I'm along for the ride whatever the group decides collectively.

I am even willing to kick in a few extra bucks to help defray the $16.98 in costs.

[jmkarcz]

My vote is that we table this for 7 days. During those 7 days, we look at other sites and costs, and if a new concenesus is reached by wednesday/thursday am this comming week, we change.

I am by no means "hurting" for livestock. I actually have a few things I could put into the trading ring... but I certainly could wait another week. The alternative is , sorry to say it, get burned. If anyone wants a site of a ebay user to buy from to feel what it's like to get burned, I certainly could provide a few.

I also have no desire to force a bad situation, for two primary reasons. First, I value Jons inititive and extended offer for running this thru his source of funds. though I have every intention of reimbursing him, I have no desire to force a bad situation. I think that the last couple buys have gone well. Second. I could wait a couple more days, as I have learned that a serious hobbiest once told me that nothing good ever happens fast in a reef tank. The fish WILL be available from someone next week. Lets take a step back, if only for 7 days.

Spike, I was being quite serous about a large quantities of each of those Angels and Grammas, but maybe not quite that many... I recently got the Angelfishes and Basseletts book, and have fallen in love with the idea that there will be NO damsels (excluding clowns) in the 300. The plan that I have for it, will increase the active water to well over 700 gallons, though the tank will be only 300. The final numbers of these two fish have not been decided yet, but will be high.

I noticed while diving in the Dominican Rep, that everywhere I looked on the coral heads, I saw Angels... lots of them. Then I noticed alot of Gramma like fish. Of course, a few gobies and jaw fish...

I have a really neat plan for the 300. I have completed phase 1 of the 5 part process, but have been temporarily distracted by upgrading my 30 gallon lifeboat reef, to a 75 gallon prop tank. I just laid the block for the stand this weekend. It will be 40" off the ground... and almost at optimal viewing height.

I have some great ideas for the 300, and still waiting for someone who has the patience to come over and listen to them, and offer suggestion and look for pitfalls with me. Your always welcome. (Open ended offer to spike and everyone...) I'm not ready for a meeting though.


EDITED - because it was so long, Dan snuck in something else for me to comment on...

I also offer the couple $ extra as the order isn't truely costing the cost of the livestock... there are hiden costs. I also offer a suggestion, that there be a nominal offer to the person doing the order, like .25 or .50 per item, to offset their costs, to make it worth thier while. This is something that I suggest the club "take up" at a meeting, and agree on a general suggestion... for me, I would have no problem, flipping Jon an extra 1.75 to 3.50 (purely as an example) for his trouble, maybe more... If you've ever seen the mess and the hoops you have to jump thru, or if you have done it, you quickly wonder how you got in the middle of it.

Dang, that added another paragraph.

Jason

[basicsafty]

I believe the fuel surcharge is 20% of their shipping cost, somewhat negating the low prices.

I have had only good service with live aquaria in the past, so I would be more than willing to order from them instead.

[kiowascout]

I agree with tabling this for a week. Let's make the best decision for everyone involved.

Jason is right.

Nothing happens fast in a reef tank.

[jmkarcz]

Just a reality check. The same items I signed up for, that I could live without, from Saltwaterfish.com that came to 74$, come to the following...132$ from Liveaquaria.com

SW - Pygmy (Cherub) Angelfish (Caribbean) $ 23.99 X2
CN-71432 SW - Jawfish, Yellowhead (Caribbean) $ 22.99 X2
CN-78439 SW - Banded Coral Shrimp - Medium $ 8.99 X2
CN-80383 SW - Ricordea Mushroom, Blue/Green (Caribbean) $ 19.99

I am by no means suggesting that they are not worth the $. But I would need to re-evaluate my order. These dollar amounts do not include the charges that Kiowascout was just referring to.

Jason

[jmkarcz]

bluezooaquatics.com


FJAPE Pearly Jawfish – Opistognathus aurifrons $ 27.95 x2
FANCH Cherub Angelfish - Centropyge argi $ 31.95 x2
ISHCOS Coral Banded Shrimp – Stenopus hispidus Small $ 9.95 2x
IPOYU Ricordea Mushroom – Ricordea yuma small $ 36.00

total: 175.70


Only point on this one was that they do not sell individual Rics.. theirs are on rocks with 2-3 small mushrooms.

[jandlms]

I haven't heard from everyone that wished to order yet, but as the person doing the ordering, I feel that the time has come to grab the bull by the "you know whats".
THE ORDER IS TABLED FOR NOW.

Wewill try to get another order (maybe to saltwaterfish.com) by next Friday (not tomorrow) at noon. Start checking the web for alternatives. I will be very interested in seeing what the reply to my email to SWF says.
Good luck and Happy Hunting!
jandlms

[DebsSisterFlo]

after reading all of the posts that have been made today I also agree on shelving this... "if it's too good to be true, it probably is" the negative feedback has put me on edge, and I'm for sure not ordering something as sensitive as a sea star from them if there's no way to contact them about a problem.
I'm thinking I'd rather order from and support our instate Dr's... even if it does cost me a few extra bucks, the peace of mind will be worth it.

[Aquabucket]

You guys might want to check out http://www.reefhotspot.com. You are going to pay a bit more for some things but the selection and customer service is top notch. The owner makes sure all fish are feeding and have no visible damage to them. That's why you pay a little bit more. Many of the corals they have you won't see at liveaquaria. They also have a nice WYSIWYG section. I would consider joining in on the order if you guys went with them. Some of the larger LPS and other corals could be fragged and split up to cut down on the costs.

They have a Monastrea coral in the LPS section for $64 that is just amazing:
http://reefhotspot.com/store/images/Red.Green.Montestrea.jpg

[Bri Guy]

Its too bad Live Aquaria wasn't in Rhindlander! Just my .02 but sounds like you guys have enough for 2 orders. So split your order it get your Common/Sensitive Fish and inverts from Live Aquaria and get your Rare/Hearty stuff from saltwater.com
Dont put all your egg.....blah whatever

Hope every thing turns out well for you.

[DebsSisterFlo]

I just wish dr F&S carried more stuff at their store, and built another one in Green Bay!!! lol! Even when you go to the store you can't get much, not the stuff you want anyways, tho they do have a nice collection of corals from what I've seen.
If we did make an order to saltwaterfish I'd take a chance and order the shrimp from them just because the price is so good... too good?

[jandlms]

The prices are hard to beat for saltwaterfish.com but its wise to hold off for a while and continue to shop around. Most of the stuff we seem to want is available at reeftopia.com and the prices are good there also. I jsut wish they had more of a selection. The site that Spike mentions has some nice prices on a few of the fish we were looking for and the corals are to die for, but the prices on some of the corals (maybe we could split a few pieces). That montastrea !WOW!
Keep up the search!
jandlms

[Aquabucket]

Did you guys check out some of those clams?

[nellie54914]

You could always do a couple different orders at different places like Bri guy suggested, one now and maybe wait a little while and another for fish & corals or something. I was looking through what you guys want and reeftopia has most of what peple are looking for (peppermint shrimp, nudibranches, royal gramma, ricordia, conchs, crabs, etc), and it comes pretty close to $120. ($120 is the magic free shipping number, plus $10 fuel charge).

[Aquabucket]

Another thing to consider is most places are not going to be stocked as much as they will be by September. August is probably one of the slowest months of the year in the industry.

EDIT ~ I forgot to add that Fragglereef.com is pretty good place for hard to find corals and might be a good place to consider in the future.

http://www.fragglereef.com/zen/

[Limpit]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7913863#post7913863 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DebsSisterFlo
If we did make an order to saltwaterfish I'd take a chance and order the shrimp from them just because the price is so good... too good?

Jessica,
The reason that the prices are so low on those Peppermint Shrimp
is that they are absolutely tiny, I know because just before the F&S frag swap I got some from them. When they arrived I though the bag was empty of livestock and just had a piece of plastic window screen in it (they ship shrimp with screen in the bag to give them something to hang onto during shipping). Upon a very closer look I did indeed find 5 shrimp in the bag. So small (1/4" or smaller) that if I would have put them in my big tank my Six Line Wrasse would have ate them for lunch. I put them into a small tank with no fish to grow them out and they are now of a decent size. In fact if you are looking for just one and are going to the Sept. meeting I can part with one if you want.
I have ordered from Saltwaterfish.com a few times but agreed in my head that if there was a problem with something I was going to take the loss. Luckily only things to die were small inverts that did not cost much.
Liveaquaria.com on the other hand I have always had above normal good customer service whenever there was a problem. They always took care of me and I have only good things to say about them. I am sure there are other good vendors out there but those are the only two I have ordered livestock from.

Ron

[RCS]

Just to throw it out there, have we considered trying to work with a local store? We used to have one store in TN that would match online prices for us and the guarantee.

Spike, you have any thoughts on this? I'm sure it depends on the supplier, as prives vary widely. As it was, the store we worked with in TN ordered from the same supplier as LiveAquaria.

What about Coral Boy Farms up in Green Bay?

[nellie54914]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7914911#post7914911 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RCS

What about Coral Boy Farms up in Green Bay?

Coral Boy Farms is over in Two Rivers/Kewaunee area, not GB. I WISH it was in GB!! :)

[RCS]

Bleah, whatever! :lol:

If Kevin can match prices, I'd rather take the business his way. I can pick up and drop off in GB and anything along the wau back to Neenah for me. I've been meaning to head out there sometime soon anyway...

[Aquabucket]

Our store prices are aleady lower than the internet's on many things except fish! I can't put togethor a group buy here because of RC policies. It would have to be at a meeting.

[RCS]

I'm sure there would be some people willing to discuss it. ;)

[DebsSisterFlo]

wow, thanks for the tip on those pepps! I'm looking for about 3 or 4... I had 3 but two went missing after my tank overhaul, I just don't know where they went. I'd like a few more so that they can breed, those little baby shrimp are great seahorse food!
I'm interested in a discussion as far as Spike is concerned!

[kass03]

I know everyone keeps throwing websites out there lol

Ive ordered from this guy a cpl times before.
It's where I got most of my nice rics and some gorgonians and zoa's.
He is very limited because he dives and collects everything in Florida but he has top notch service and shipping.
His rics and corals are nice and colorful.
He always added extra rics to my order and gave me better prices than the website to lol.
He doesnt have free shipping but it's very reasonable.

http://sealifeflorida.com

example of the few things he does have that you guys were looking for

yellowhead jawfish $12.50 or mated pair $30 (which is what you would need Jason if placing 2 in same tank)
pygmy angels $15
royal grammas $12

lettuce sea slugs $6
emerald crab $4.50
red mithrex crab $5

blue leg hermits .60 or 50 for $20
porcelain crab $7.50
coral banded shrimp $9 or mated pair for $20
gold banded $8.50 or mated pair for $25

green ric $7.50
orange ric $12.50
assorted $10
large blue ric $20

If you wanted to order from him I might be able to get you a better deal.

kass

[jmkarcz]

Kass...



Will you marry me? :D

J

[kass03]

LMAO Jason

I had to edit that a gazillion times.

kass

[jmkarcz]

HEY, those of you with nano's theres a nano section, check it out!

Jason

p.s. What does LMAO mean? Does that mean no...?

[kass03]

Ha Ha were both already married.

kass

[DebsSisterFlo]

watch out for Jason, Kass..... muwahahaha! :D

For those prices I may be interested in another ric!

[jmkarcz]

huh....

[kiowascout]

you can only marry her if she were to provide WRITTEN permission from her mother....

That or she would have to bring an adult or legal guardian with her to the ceremony.

[jmkarcz]

Ah... the sweet cool cut of rejection that I have come to aclimated to... It's become so common place lately that I would feel out of place were I accepted.

Those arn't tear drops, thats the RO/DI I left on last night.

Jason

[gooch]

I would pass on SWF.com. A group order to a place like that can and would probably be a headache.

I have been to Sharkey's. I hand picked some awesome corals from his tanks. Was happy with what I have........I should say very happy.

Jimmy's Reef is another place that has just awesome corals. Also been here and can not say enough good things. Had more exotic stuff in one place than anywhere I have ever been combined.

http://www.jimmysreef.com/main.php
http://www.edensgatecorals.com/
http://www.sharkysreef.com/catalog/index.php


I have never purchased anything from Edens Gate Corals but have dealt with him and chatted with him over the years. I have known him and Jimmy for years and personally vouche for both of them. They will bust but to make you happy.

Jimmy's is in Chicago not far from Sharkey's.......you may even be able to combine a group order through both. They have a good working relationship.

I would get into a group order from either of these three if I had my tank up and running.

Shipping shouldn't kill from these sources either. The farthest out is OHIO.

Scott

[kass03]

Yeah Jason I can't marry you because it's after 8pm and dark out and my mom said no.

Sorry

kass

[jmkarcz]

Jeff from Jeff's Exotic Fish just sent me this email at work... usually I don't give out my work email, as someday when I'm not here, I'd rather they didn't know what I was doing.... but any way. I looked this over, and so far, I'm most excited about that site that Kass won't marry me over, so my vote so far is leaning that way... but there are others of you in on this, so keep looking.
per Jeff's email. (an no, not that Jeff, the other Jeff - remember, no Jeff Bashing in this thread, but Jason appears to be game...)

valid only until Wednesday 8/16/2006 or while supplies last.

Also we are also continuing our Free Shipping promotion. Any order over $199 of Fish, Corals, or Inverts, will receive FREE FedEx Priority Next Day Air shipping!* Any shipping charged at check out will be automatically credited back to your credit card after you complete your order. This promotion is not available to customers in Hawaii and Alaska.

These prices are valid only for online purchases and phone orders. Local clients can will-call their orders at our Gardena location to avoid shipping charges if order is placed over the phone or internet.

Live Stock:

1) 50 lb Box of Fiji Live Rock Only $1.99/lb ($99.50/Box)
2) Small Clown Trigger only $39.99
3) 10 Bumble Bee Snails only $14.99
4) 25 Margarita Snails only $9.99
5) Buy any 3 Soft Corals or any 3 Hard Corals and get a 4th Free!
6) Vlamingi Tang Juv. Only $49.99
7) 9 Corals For only $199 on specially marked corals – Free Shipping!
8) 3"-4" Ultra Crocea Clams only $39.99 (Great Deal!)



Dry Goods:

1) AquaEuro 1/10th HP Chiller only $339.99 – Free Shipping!
2) Jeff’s 6-1 Skimmer only $229.99 (up to 125 Gal)
3) Book- “Natural Reef Aquariums” by Tullock only $19.99
4) Book- “Reef Secrets” by Fossa only $19.99
5) Current USA Prime Tower 1/3rd HP Chiller $549.99 – Free Shipping!
6) 3/4" Sea Swirl only $145
7) Hamilton Tech. 150W HQI Metal Halide Pendant only $199.99
8) 175 Watt 10K Metal Halide Lamp only $49.99
9) 175 Watt 14 K metal Halide lamp only $49.99
10) Buy any 3 Kent Marine Additives and get 1 Free!


Jeff
Jeff's Exotic Fish
http://www.exoticfish.com
Toll Free 1-888-442-FISH

[kass03]

If you do order from sealifeflorida. I think he only ships on Monday and Tuesday but not sure if it's overnight he might do later in the week.
I know his shipping has changed since I ordered.

If I kinda knew what you guys wanted I could email him and see if he would do a better deal.

kass

[MarineOne]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7915245#post7915245 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Aquabucket
Our store prices are aleady lower than the internet's on many things except fish! I can't put togethor a group buy here because of RC policies. It would have to be at a meeting.
Ok, when and where :D

[jmkarcz]

Anything new anyone? I'm still interested.

[kass03]

If I were John I would just pick a place and say I'm placing an order if someone wants in.
It was very nice of you to offer John.

kass

[BryanJ]

Jason

I'm interested in ordering do you have a place in mind? I am always up for reeftopia but I know you would like to order from somewhere else. I will get in on exoticfish if you want.

[jandlms]

Just to keep the thread alive and growing.
What are we going to do folks. I am not thrilled with any of the options (I suppose I will find something at any site we choose),but we need to decide on a place so the order can be done.
Somebody mentioned back a ways that Reeftopia has most of what we are looking for. What about them?
jandlms
Jon

[jmkarcz]

My vote is still for :

http://sealifeflorida.com

I seem to like the "sounds like they collect the stuff them selves " that reads from thier site.

I also wanted pairs of o few things... I could pass on the Pygmys, and get those later. What does everyone else think???


Thought abouta couple grammas, a pair of CBS and a pair of yellow headed Jawfish.

I'll talk with Jon again tomorrow when we go for "the ride". one of us Will report back if he dosen't just do it before then.

I saw Kass tonight everyone, you can rest assured that she didn't even wink at me. :( but she did bring me some awesome shrooms! :bum: She did get a little flustered at the thought of seeing me and missed the exit...or could that have been because she didn't want to see me... :eek1:

Don't worry, I've been doing my part in helping the economy...

Jason

[MarineOne]

Wow...

Did you see Jeff's Exotic Fish sale on Premium Fiji Liverock?!

On sale for $99.50 a 50 lb box plus buy 3 boxes get 1 free!


:eek2:

[BryanJ]

As long as whoever we order from has cerith snails under a buck each, I will get in on the order. Unless we order from reeftopia then I will pay the 1.15 for the larger ceriths.

[DebsSisterFlo]

well I've never ordered from anyone yet so I'll look at whichever website is chosen and see what I can find.

[jmkarcz]

I have a Wheel Borrow worth of Lace rock, some premium pcs I've picked over the years that I've ousted from the 300, most are large, if anyone is looking, price is negotiable in livestock... perhaps frags. I have a new to me air compressor and access to sandblast too if anyone wants to do some rock sculpting... if interest we can start a new thread..


j

[DebsSisterFlo]

Is it Reeftopia then? yes, no, votes? I'm going to check out their site so I'm ready if that's where the order goes...

[DebsSisterFlo]

Cerith snail question... would I really need a dozen in my 38g, and if not would anyone want to split an order? I'd like a turbo or two but if noone wants any I'll have to go get them from Mr. Jeff...

[jandlms]

Noooooooo, Not him
I can probably split a cerinth order to save your immortal soul.
jandlms

the question again is not what but WHERE.

[jmkarcz]

Jessica,

I will give you an extra frag for not buying from Jeff...

J

[BryanJ]

Why would anyone pay twice the price or more to buy from Jeff.

[DebsSisterFlo]

I've got to clean out my tank stand so that I can cower within it...
:D
I just don't want to order a dozen turbos, that's why I asked! I'd like maybe 2... and ceriths, perhaps a half dozen...
but I know you're all lookin' out for the well-being of me... and the opposite for you-know-who! lol!

[MarineOne]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7952168#post7952168 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmkarcz
Jessica,

I will give you an extra frag for not buying from Jeff...

J
What's up with Jeff?

:confused:

[DebsSisterFlo]

I'll peek out from under my tank long enough to direct you to this thread... it started out innocent enough, but scroll about half way down and read every post, you'll get a good idea "What's up with Jeff?".
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=899540

[RCS]

You know...maybe it's time to start that discussion up again about opening a shop somewhere...

[jandlms]

I think we are a long way away from the time to talk about opening up a shop again. We are still just trying to organize a group buy. If you are interested in a group buy, then great. If you are interested in starting up a coral store, then start a new thread (there are probably quite a few of us interested in the idea). Lets keep focused here folks.
jandlms

[RCS]

LOL, I said "maybe". :lol:

I'm still interested once we decide where we're ordering from.

[basicsafty]

Sea life florida had a bunch of stuff I'm looking for, including my favorite hermit crabs ever: http://sealifeflorida.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=30&products_id=156 , so I would definitely be in on that one.

[Lishoop6]

just pick one already or this thread will go on until i'm an old lady

[jmkarcz]

New rule, you can't post in this thread unless your buying.... I think were getting to much for the entertainment and peanut gallery comments and no - one putting Jons money on the line.


And again I will vote for florida sealife Look back, I've said it 3 times since Kass posted it. . Sounds like that's 2 votes with Basicaftly...... do I hear 3??? I think 4 will proly carry it.

Jon pull a decision on this by friday sometime like noon or 2 and orders by saturday... I can't wait any longer. I'm glad we postponed, but that was only for 1 week and tomorrow is 1 week.

And Sorry Marineone.. this was a Livestock order thread... I might get in on that if you wanna start a Rock thread...

Jason

[gooch]

I need 25-30 mexican turbos and a bunch of other snails. So if you order from a place with mexican turbo's count me in.

Scott

I can pre pay once you confirm the order has been placed.

[jandlms]

Okay, once agina its time to grab that bull by the.....
sealifeflorida.com it is.
PM your orders to me asap so I can get this order going. NOBODY say anything bad about this place because it won't matter. THIS is who the order is going to be sent to.
Any questions?
NO?
Good!
I look forward to your PMs.
jandlms

[jandlms]

Get those orders in folks. So far only two of you have responded. I will call the order in either Saturday (if they take orders on Saturday) or Monday AM. Go GO GO !!!!!
jandlms

[kass03]

Jon,
why don't you pm me what people want and I'll email Ken from sealife and tell him it's a group order and see if he'll give you a deal.
He gave me better prices when I ordered from him the other times.
It's up to you.
If I just kinda have a list of whats going to be ordered.
I never called him always went through emails but he responds fast.

kass

[RCS]

Are you sure about this place? I heard...oh, never mind.

Put me down for:

4 lettuce sea slugs
1 blue ricordea
1 lime green ricorde
1 orange ricordea
Blue zoanthid cluster
5 neon blue zoa polyps

[kass03]

RCS I got some of those blue zoa's last year and both were really nice. The neons are blue and the others more purple but both cool. I might get some again as I lost mine. I think I had them up too high in my tank. The neons don't like bright light.
I lost quite a few zoa's and not really sure why. I don't have nudis. Some are doing great though so weird.
I have all his colors in rics except for the regular green. Those are all bright also.

I pmed him to see if he'd give a deal but did'nt get an answer yet.

kass

[kass03]

OK heres what Ken from sealifeflorida said.

Kathy, sorry for the delay getting back to you. I'm out of town moving my daughter into her dorm room, so I have limited access to a computer. I can't really do much on price, and our selection is a little limited this week. If you can wait until next week, I'll have more fish and invertebrates listed on the website, and you'd be able to get a better selection of stuff. I'm also planning to add a price for small colonies of zoanthids, so maybe the smaller colonies would fit your needs better than the present selection. Ken

Sounds like it would be better to wait another week.

kass

[jandlms]

As you can see from Kass' post , she has beeen in contact with SealifeFlorida's owner. He says more and better next week. Should we wait? I have not placed the order.
My vote is to wait, but I will go as the group goes.
Jon
jandlms

[BryanJ]

Doesn't matter to me when you order my order won't change unless he adds clams or lps to his site.

[basicsafty]

No big hurry, I vote we wait.

[RCS]

Waiting is fine with me.

[jandlms]

Looks like we wait.
Kass when this dealer says next week does he mean the week of 8/21 or the week of 8/28?
Let me know where we stand.
Jon
jandlms

[kass03]

He usually ships on Monday and Tuesdays so he means wait until
8/28 and he will update the website this week.
He said he pulled alot of stuff off it cuz he was gone this week and will go through the tanks and update everything later this afternoon sometime.

He also said he'll send plenty of free stuff instead of a discount.

So the order should be in by Sunday if you want him to ship Monday. I'd get it in by Saturday to be sure.
What day did you want it to arrive Jon? I think he can make an exception if you wanted it to arrive later depending what day.

Sorry if you read this I keep editing it lol
heres the website again if your going to order

http://sealifeflorida.com/catalog/index.php?osCsid=479b7333e63359b4f281991a6d92051f

kass

[kass03]

Ok he emailed me back and said have the order in by Next Saturday evening.

Jandlms is placing the order so whoever wants in post here and send Jandlms (Jon) a pm please.

kass

[DebsSisterFlo]

that's great news! I wonder what the freebies will be and how that will be handled, would we all get a choice if there's enough to go around, or? Not sure how that's dealt with so I'm just asking. I will have to see what he has for smaller zoo colonies since I'd love some blue ones...

[jmkarcz]

Now I feel guilty, you just ganve me you blue zoos.

I know it's late, nut I vote to wait as well. I relly had my eye on an angel on the site that disappeared since kass posted the site last week, Jon, I will revise my order for sure if that comes back.

I'm sorry if anyone ways trying to get ahold of me, was at a wedding this weekend, and then I slept most of today, except for that trip to Jon's place. Those blasto's are doing very well by the way. No, if Fred can get me that Phos Sponge, maybe all that algae I've been pulling out won't be in vain...

Jason

[kass03]

Jason are you drunk? lol
He said he pulled some things from the site that he didnt have alot of cuz he was going away. He might still have the angel.
What kind was it?

Jess I dunno how the freebies will work. When Joe and I ordered we got extra rics and I just split them up between us.
I'd say it's up to Jon what he wants to do.
I never ordered fish from him but when I ordered zoa's, rics, and gorgs he usually gave extra of what you ordered.

Anyway
He emailed me back again and said this.

Kathy, I'll be adding items throughout the week as I get them and as I write up new items. Ken

I dunno why he said he'd update today earlier but watch during the week and have your order to Jon by Friday so he can place it Saturday.

kass

[jandlms]

ALL THE FREEBIES ARE MINE! MINE YOU HEAR! MINE! MINE!
Oh! the power that goes with this order. Its intoxicating!

Seriously, we'll figure out what to do with the freebies when and if we ever get this off the ground.
Jon
jandlms

[DebsSisterFlo]

freebies! freebies!!! I have room for another ric if one went floating by...
Jason, those are more dark green to me... meh, that chunk was off of a bigger colony so enjoy it! I'm after those neon blues!

[kass03]

He sent me an email today saying he will be diving later this week and will update the website after he goes and sees what he can get.

kass

[DebsSisterFlo]

Just bumping this up as a reminder to get your orders in by friday! I've got mine in, and spent more than I wanted to, but those zoo's are gorgeous! Someday I'll have zoo's to trade, they're addictive little things. (I ordered the neon blue and the yellow eyed), snails and my star!!! :D

[kass03]

I see he did update the blue zoa's to smaller clusters for less money. He also has a single polyp blue ric with pink mouth now like I got from him.

These are the pictures I took last year of the blue zoa's from him.
He only had 2 kinds at the time so I'm not sure which ones they are.
I'm pretty sure these are the blues (which are more purple)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/kass03/c0b33eb5.jpg

and think these are neons but not sure. I emailed him to see if he knows.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/kass03/c4e76841.jpg

I ended up losing them. Ive had trouble with some zoa's and not sure why. I know I don't have nudis.
I wouldnt be afraid to order them as I'm gonna try more. They were healthy when I got them.

Jess how he normally did the freebies was if you ordered rics he gave you rics and gorgs he gave you gorgs etc. Not sure what he'll do now though.

kass

[jmkarcz]

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I stopped counting on freebies, as several of the companies I bought from were said to "throw in a few extra..."

Well I actually counted and everything came out on the head... like the 100's of crabs I bought... or 50 lots.. to the head.... and worse, some die in shipping.

The ole "Don't count your chickens..."

I would be interested in a bulk buy on crabs again... I have a few hangers on... and need to get some to help with this algae. Looking at the ones on SLF - does anyone know if you need the diversity between the reds and the blues... the reds seem pricy to do 20.... for example... I was going to do 50 of the blue, and a couple (4) emerald crabs or does someone wanna opinionate that for me... I don't know and am willing to listen.

I have to say I feel good about this site, did anyone see the Urchin Evacuation link at the bottom? I think we should, if the order goes well, add a stick thread of places to buy from with good environmental ethics.


Jason

[RCS]

Personally, I'm not a big fan of crabs in the aquarium. I usually stick to the small blue hermits if any at all. Emeralds and anything of that ilk I stay away from completely. Even the small chance they have of catching and eating fish is too much for me. Snails are usually better algae eaters anyway...

I guess I'll have to check out the site and maybe revise my order if he's changed stuff.

[jandlms]

Jason,
I know the emerald crabs have worked for me in the past to take care of bubble algae (valonia). They never seemed to do much with hair algae for me. Also, basicsafty (sp?) wanted a few bluelegs. Maybe you guys could hook up for a larger amount.
Jon

[kass03]

I like to have some hermits in my tank but the turbos in my 55 are what eat alot of the algae and I have astreas in my nano just cuz turbos are pretty big for that tank. They do a good job in there.

As far as freebies I just know I ordered twice from him and got several freebies both times. Some of the rics and gorgs I ordered he sent 2 instead of 1. Thats all I know lol.

kass

[jmkarcz]

add another...

[kass03]

? Jason

I asked him if he was adding more yet or done and he said he'd prolly add a few more things yet to the site.

So far I think I might get a jawfish lol wonder why (dunno if I should even try another in there), and maybe that blenny for the nano.I like the rusty goby too but blennys are usually more fun.
A red mithrax for my 55 and some sea lettuce for my tangs.
I want some blue zoa's but can't decide which and can't afford em all lol. He doesnt rem. which ones he sold me. He thinks those were the yellow eye.

kass

[RCS]

Going to update my order here:

1 lime green ricordea
1 orange ricordea
small Blue zoanthid cluster
5 neon blue zoa polyps
small yellow-eyed zoanthid cluster

[BryanJ]

Jason

As far as red and blue hermits the red will become larger then the blue. I have had both for years and try to stock around one per gallon. I kept between 55 and 75 in my 55 gallon. I have no clue as to how many are in my 120 I put a 100 in to start and have added 50 since then. you have to allow for molting accidents where they became fresh food when they exit there shells to molt. Next time we order from reeftopia I will get at least 50 more.

I have always kept emeralds as well and as Jon said they are great for bubble algae. I also know they feed on other micro algaes as well as I have watched an emerald feed for an hour on some type of algae I could not see. I have had emeralds feast on hair algae but there is no guarantee they will eat it. I am trying the Red Mitrax Crab on this order as the description states these are the emeralds cousin which are actually collected off of the reefs.

[nellie54914]

We have had emerald crabs since shortly after we started, they've never hurt anything, and have kept the buble algea under control. They ate some hair algea when we had it (was fun to watch!) but never enough to make a difference. We had 4 in our 75g, then they gradually all died. Or so we thought, we didn't see any for a 4-5 months. Finally got 4 more a few months ago. Then a couple weeks ago a mongo emerald shows up! It can't be from the latest batch because those were quite small, compared to the others we see this guy is 3-4 times as big with huge claws!! It's weird that we never saw him, he must have been a survivor from one of the first batches and finally decided to show himself. Either that or he found some kind of crab steroids in the tank! I'm alittle concerned because he's so big that he's going to catch a ish, but none of them seem to care about him. Actually I think the blenny messes with him, it swims by him quite often and it seems like it's on purpose, gets his claws raised every time!

[kass03]

I see he added a few more fish including an atlantic blue tang (which is yellow as a juv.) I used to have one of those in my 150 and really liked it. Was cool to see it change from yellow to blue.

I wish he'd quit adding stuff lol cuz I can't decide.

kass

[RCS]

Jason and Jon had talked about ordering a larger zoanthid piece and fragging it out as well. Are we still interested in doing that? It would make sense for me...

[jandlms]

Okay folks.
I just got a return email from Ken at FloridaSeaLife. I told him I would have the order to him Saturday night so he can ship it out Monday morning. Therefore the deadline for this order is 4PM (Central time) on Saturday. PM me your order if it has changed from what you wanted last week. PM me only!!!!!!
So far I have orders from Kiowa, BryanJ,Basicsfty, Debsisflo, JMkarcz, and RCS.

Kass, Mako, and anyone else wanting to get involved. Get me your orders!
By the way, we seem to have a lot of orders for small zoo colonies of various colors. I will try and get a better deal on these colonies by combing and ordering larger colonies. If anyone has a problem with thius let me know ASAP (by PM).
Also by the way. Don't get excited by the rumors of FREE STUFF. If and when we receive some, it will be divided up equally among the participants of the order. Be here quickly to pick up your order and you can take your pick of anything we get as a group. Wait too long and suffer getting the half dead domino damsel (or whatever) that is often the way cool FREE STUFF that comes with orders. I'm not trying to be pessimistic, I just don't want anyone getting bent about what they get as a freebie.
Good Night and send those PM's
Jon
jandlms

[jandlms]

Tick tock folks.
4PM today is the deadline for your orders!
PM me.
Jon
jandlms

[jandlms]

Order has been placed.
I will let you know when the stuff arrives (best guess is Tuesday AM before 10 AM).
Jon
jandlms

[jandlms]

Order received.
I was informed we should get everything Tuesday AM.
jandlms
Jon

[kass03]

I thought you were gonna post directions? specific ones for me lol.

I dunno what time were suppose to come. I'll prolly come in the afternoon if thats ok.

kass

[kiowascout]

John,

could you send those of us who ordered via PM that amounts that we will owe? it was so long ago that I ordered, that I forgot how much I will be owing.

Thanks

Dan

[jandlms]

Directions to Casa Jon are as follows.

Hwy 41 North to Cty B. Turn left on Cty B and go several miles (towards Pulaski) to Cty M. Turn left on Cty M. Take Cty M 1/3 mile to Northwoods Rd. Turn left on Northwoods Rd for 1 mile. The first left off of Northwoods is Hidden Pond Rd.
We are 3220 Hidden Pond Rd. (2nd driveway on the left).
My phone number is 920-662-7564 if you get lost.
Jon

[RCS]

Hey Jon, what kind of timeframe will you be around for pickup today? I'll likely head out there after work...I'm guessing I would be there around 6pm at the earliest, since you're a bit of a haul. Just wanted to make sure that would work for you. Also, do we have totals with shipping?

[jandlms]

Fred,
I or my wife will be here all day for pickup. I haven't seen the totals for shipping on an invoice yet, but if it stays the same your SH would be $3. Actually it $2 something but I rounded up to three to cover my pain and suffering. Sorry.
Jon
PS
See directions on this thread to get to my place.

[jandlms]

The order just arrived
jandlms

[BryanJ]

Jon do you want us to PM you with set times? Is there a time of day you don't want people there. (Naptime, dinnertime, ect...)

[jmkarcz]

I just picked up my portion, 12:30 or so, everything looks well and to have traveled good. I did pass on the consolation freebe, I left that for the slower one of you guys. I picked what looks like 4-5 palys... I'll wait for them to open and post a pic. I left some of the bigger ones for those for you "Jess" that are so excited about the freebees. I'm most excited about my Jawfish. They look spetacular.

Jason

[scooters reef]

Connie just went out the door. I'm just waiting to have a Royal Gramma again for the first time in years :)

[scooters reef]

Will be up to FOUR whole fish in a 200 gallon running for almost two years. LOL, talk about patience :)

[jmkarcz]

I love mine, thats why I'm not doing damsels in the 300, just grammas and black caps... and perhaps angels.

[scooters reef]

I've got two angels. A flame and a lemonpeel. Last fish is an ocellaris hosted in my saebe that I got by accident and for free :) Had two clowns (was part of the Reefscience order I split with Kass) and they were the smallest clowns I had ever seen. One took a flying leap to the floor though :( The one left is getting big, and thinks my hand is food. Connie has burned herself on the MH 3 or 4 times from jumping when it goes after her when she's scraping the front. I wanted more than one clown though, so now I have to figure out how, when, what size, and how many and hope it works ok.

[scooters reef]

Jon,

Don't let Connie take an emerald please :) I'm not worried about it hurting anything, but it would starve. If offered, she may take it because she thinks it's cute. BUT, she's a freak and likes bubble algae (of which there is none), so if she argues just remind her what the emerald's favorite food is, LOL

[jandlms]

Come and get them folks. BryanJ anytime is fine before about 8:30 tonite.
2 deaders so far. The jawfish that Kass ordered and my sailfin blenny.
jason, we are saving the consolation freebie (crab of unknown origin and appetities) for you if no one else wants to take a trip to the wild side. Most of the freebies look to be chocolate zoos (and the crab). One bag of freenies was mushy and smelled nasty so was dumped. One bag has one stalk of caulerpa (the frond type). I'm keeping the extra freebie of caulerpa. You are all welcome to a 10% slice of it now or as much as you can carry when it grows in my sump). I keep looking in the bag for something else but its just this little piece of caulerpa.
Oh well, the freebie zoos are nice and they are by definition good zoos because they were free zoos. A few look a little different (kass already snagged a bag of those) so hopefully a little diversity will show up.

Come and get those orders.
Jon

[jandlms]

By the way scootersreef,
Your ricordea is the biggest pig of a purple and green ricordea I have ever seen. At least three mouths and silver dollar sized in the bag.
Jon

[scooters reef]

Awesome :)

[DebsSisterFlo]

My stuff is acclimating, and thanks yet again Jon for being our go-to guy!
My harlequin star is just awesome! I am thinking that the freebie crab is a porcelain crab by his website. The neon blues had opened in their bag while floating!
I hope everyone is happy with thier order, and sorry again about your fish, Jon and Kass.

[scooters reef]

Will they re-ship the two fish?

[jandlms]

I had them credit me with Paypal. Kass was not charged for the deader, nor was I. The company has been very easy to deal with.
Jon

[basicsafty]

I should be out there to pick mine up around 6:45, depending on traffic.

[scooters reef]

Connie is home! Be back later. I have to go acclimate. Or, well, not me personally, but the fish :)

[jmkarcz]

I'll take the cast away emerald, only if no one wants him... if he's bad, I'll exile him to a 40 gallon breeder in the basement...

I though I only got the Choc Paly's but when I got home here's my stuff after soaking all day.

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Special thanks to jon for putting up with all the crap that this order dished out... the waiting and deciding and all... I think everything I got turned out quite well. I am quite satisfied. My jawfish survived, and I will post pics when they are not so timid.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I would and will order from Floridasealife.com again.

Jason

p.s. jon, you know my number if that crab is still sitting there...

[kiowascout]

My stuff is acclimating right now. The blues opened up in the bag on the way home. they look nice enough.


The gramma is doing his 'laying on the side looking unhappy" thing.

This would be the first actual fish I've ever ordered, I do hope it does alright.

[jandlms]

Jason,
What was that number again?
Sorry the crab was snatched up by RCS. I hope everybodies zoos turn out as varied as Jason's. Mine ar looking kind of grey but only actinics are on at this time. As for ordering from this place again, yeah I'm in,,,but,,...
I would like to monitor his site for a while and see if his selection gets a little better. Hope this buy worked for everyone (sorry for your loss kass) and thank you to everyone for the prompt retrieval of your purchases. The one thing I absolutely insist on is that we work at NOT killing anything with these purchases.
Jon

[scooters reef]

Kiowa, I've had numerous grammas through the years (was in the Navy, so gave everything away just to start over many times), and they all did that.

However, this one today scared the hell out of me. Was no only laying on it's side, it didn't look like it was doing anything. I lost control and had to nudge it. Still didn't move! Since it has been awhile since I needed it, was starting to wonder if my drip bucket had been been used for something nasty without my knowledge and freaked even more.

Also, while I usually QT, everything is getting moved around again with the basement still in work, so had already decided to risk it this time. LOL, sooooo, with what looked like MAJOR stress even for a gramma, I took the risk and moved it to the tank much quicker than I think I have ever done an acclimation. (naughty, but thought for sure something was in that bucket and took the only way out I saw at the moment).

Well, the darn thing hid for a WHOLE 10 minutes, and has now been out looking for his own hole since. I didn't even bother turning the lights out. When I fed, he ate more than either of my angels :)

Looks like 1) He has a new home, and 2) I need my Qt tank set back up so I don't have to stress like this again!

[basicsafty]

Got everything home and now I have to wait for it all to acclimate. Thanks for dealing with all the logistics Jon.

[scooters reef]

I found a little starfish hitch-hiker too :) Was almost pure white.

[kass03]

When I got home the tang was laying on the bottom of the bag and didnt look good. If I moved the bag it would get up but then go on the bottom again.
Now I know tangs act funny also when stressed but same as scooter panicked and really thought it was dying. It was breathing heavy and just laying sideways.
I had started acclimating it to the 150 but kept looking at it so small and my other fish so big plus it looked half dead I did'nt know what to do.
I decided to put some water in the bag from my nano as it tests perfect. Then I started thinking. Should I put it in the 150 and take a chance of it getting beat up after its so stressed already?
Or should I put it in the nano where nothing can bother it and hopefully it will recoup.
Well I acclimated it for over an hour pacing the house trying to decide when my hubby finally said (who doesnt know alot about keeping fish lol) why put it in the 150 and risk it. Wouldnt you rather rip the nano apart to catch it later on and have it safe for now?
So I said ok the nano it is. My kid said "mom why would you listen to daddy" lol and I said I dont but just wanted someone to say it's ok.
Soooooo the tiny atlantic blue tang is in the nano (tang police are at my door).
My thinking is if I quarantined it that would be like the same thing or if it was at an LFS would prolly be in a small tank to. It's small (I didnt know they made em that small lol but it did say 2 1/2 inches and thats what it is) so the tank is big enough for now. Plus I figured theres a good chance of it dying anyway the way it looked.
I put it in and for over an hour it hung in the corner and did'nt move. I turned the lights to actinic only and it started to act more normal and swim around after awhile.
Now it has ich kinda bad which I did'nt notice before but it's a tang nuff said. I fed it some garlic soaked brine tonight as it was picking on stuff and it did eat it. I also put some sea lettuce on a clip for it.
I treated the tank with my sano herbal remedy (which I always do when adding a new fish) and we'll see what happens.
Although the sano stuff is for my big tanks at 1 drop per 50 gals so I added it to fresh water and a syringe so dunno if it will work.

The saddled blenny seemed fine all the while and a pretty cute fish.
It reminds me of a cross between a blenny and a hawkfish.
Yes it could get ich but Ive seen many times before where only 1 fish gets it. I havent lost a fish to ich in many yrs and hope my record keeps going but my luck hasnt been to good lately lol.

I like Ken and I'm the one who suggested him but think he coulda put more water in the bags with the fish. It's the first time I ordered fish from him.
My zoa's opened right up. I dont think theyre the same as mine last yr but under PC's this time instead of my T5's so may look different. I was hoping for the same ones I got last yr.

Oh and the sea lettuce I put in a hang on in tank fuge for right now. It has some creepy worms I need to get an ID on right away lol they look like a worm but have tentacles all around the mouth.

I am really sad about Jon and I's jawfish. I don't like killing things either. I hope Jasons make it ok.
I hope the tang makes it to. If it was'nt for the ich it seems to be doing good. If I see my cleaner shrimp in the 55 again lol I'm gonna try to catch it and put it in there to.

Ok sorry for the book here lol and yes thanks very much to Jon for doing this. I did'nt even get lost lol and would order from Ken again.

kass

[RCS]

Kass, you don't want more water in the bags in most cases. At ratio of 2/3 air to 1/3 water is ideal for most cases (especially overnight shipping). But I will agree the bag was likely a bit on the small side, even if it was a tiny tang. They stress easily during shipping. Air contains more, well, air than water does, and with too much water in a shipping bag, you run a good chance of suffocating the fish. Ideally he would use pure O2 in the bag, but I don't know how he ships his stuff. I usually use either breather bags for small fish that can handle it, or a good 6x12" bag that filled with about 2.5" of water and a good 6-8" of air in it.

I think you did alright putting it in your nano for the time being, hopefully it will pull through.

Jon, thanks for putting the order together!

[kass03]

Yeah he does use oxygen.
The tang looks better today as it's acting normal but still has some white spots on it. I know they get so stressed when shipped. Hopefully it will get better.
Sounds like overall things went pretty well for everyone.

Jason those zoa's look great. I'd recommend everyone starting the zoa's on the bottom of the tank as he said they were deep water zoa's.

Oh and I'm glad the little crab found a home. My daughter kept begging for it lol but I had ordered a crab and did'nt really want another 1. I was afraid nobody might want it though.

kass

[MarineOne]

Smart move with the QT...

If you would have put him in your 150, your whole tank would be ich infested right now....

But try to get him out of the nano as soon as possible... (tang police)

:D

[kiowascout]

Just wanted everyone to know that the blue zoos are really really awesome!

I took some other polyp rock as a freebie, but when I got home tonight, it was upside down on the sand. I uprighted it, but havent seen what they are yet.

The gramma is out and about and looking great!

[basicsafty]

My ricordea turned out amazing, but the yellow mouth zoos are just ok. They are still opening, hopefully there are more exciting ones all closed up.