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littlemannin
08/17/2006, 05:38 PM
has anyone done a FW dip for a fish with ick? I came home from work and hes covered with white spots, pale, and rubbibg on rocks. Then stops in the cornwer of the tank and rests. Does this sound like ick and will the FW dip help. How long do I leave him in FW. My Quaratine isnt set up right now?

littlemannin
08/17/2006, 06:15 PM
Ok. I guess not. Anyone know how to catch a domino with ick? My god this guy is quick!

TWallace
08/17/2006, 06:23 PM
FW dips won't do much for ich. They infect the whole tank, not just the fish. Dipping may kill some of the parasites, but most will be embedded too deep in the fish to be affected by the water conditions. Also, many more parasites will be free swimming in your tank, where they'll just reinfect the fish after the dip.

Cesar333
08/17/2006, 06:32 PM
Hey whats up, my first post here.
I used to do this a long time ago when i was an aquatics specialist at a fish shop. first get a small tank or container and fill it with RO/DI water and try to match the temp of your tank. Make sure to have your freshwater dip tank properly airrated. take your little domino and drop him in the freshwater for 3 to 5 min. then put him back in the tank. I found this method worked 90% of the time.

Zoos
08/17/2006, 06:36 PM
Wow a damsel with ick......... lol

littlemannin
08/17/2006, 07:24 PM
my damsel with ick is gonna take out the entire tank! I know its just a damsel.... but now... how do I get him out!.My god .. I never thought a $4 fish would take down a $3000 tank! Never again!
Sorry stressing here!

TKByrnes
08/17/2006, 08:23 PM
go fishing..... litteraly. small barbless hook and a piece of shrimp. it has worked for many people.

druce
08/17/2006, 08:39 PM
this my friend is why you QT your fish

I learned this the hard way 6 months ago....

blas
08/17/2006, 09:08 PM
Agree on quarantine but even with that things happen in the main tank, ich is almost always there and it take a fish down on their luck and whala! ich is here again. I have been battling that stuff for a month in my 180 with a tang that up until now has not ever had ich, I hate that stuff and try catching a fish in a 180 stocked with 250lbs of live rock pretty much next to impossible not to mention the stress you would put the sick fish through. One of the hazrds of this here hobby : (

Freed
08/17/2006, 09:20 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7962078#post7962078 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by blas
Agree on quarantine but even with that things happen in the main tank, ich is almost always there and it take a fish down on their luck and whala! ich is here again. I have been battling that stuff for a month in my 180 with a tang that up until now has not ever had ich, I hate that stuff and try catching a fish in a 180 stocked with 250lbs of live rock pretty much next to impossible not to mention the stress you would put the sick fish through. One of the hazrds of this here hobby : (

OK, here we go. First off, blas, get the idea out of your mind that ich is almost always there in your tank whether you like it or not. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST RIDICULOUS ASSUMPTIONS AND OLD WIVES TALES ANYONE CAN COME UP WITH. Ich is not always present in a tank. It has to be introduced into the tank via fish, inverts, live rock or anything WET. This is the only way to introduce ich(cryptocarian irritans) into your saltwater tank. IF you QT properly, you will NEVER introduce it into your main system. This means QT ALL live rock, fish, inverts, corals, etc.

The reason you have been battling it is because it looks as though, and I am just assuming, that you haven't properly QT'd your new arrivals and are now fighting the monthly cycle of the ich reinfesting all of the fish you have. If you would take the time to take all the fish and put them in QT and properly do hyposalinity on them, you would be rid of the "ich" and you wouldn't have any more worries.

ReefWreak
08/17/2006, 09:20 PM
The arguement of having a lot of rock and stuff is definatly valid, but that's why some people suggest that you use the barbless hook if you can't catch it by net. I've got a tomato clown that had it last week, I never treated for it cause I couldn't catch him (don't have the time/patience/heart to hook him), but it's gone now so i'm waiting to see how it goes.

Either way, good luck to all of you/us with ich!

littlemannin
09/09/2006, 06:33 AM
Well, the damsel died and the ich took out my yellow tang also... but... There is a good side to this happening. I have always had a problem with nitrates in my tank. Not real bad (about 2 to 4). Now that the Yellow Tang and the damsel are gone and I only have a Coral beauty left in the tank with some mushrooms, snails and hermits, my niitrates are 0. I'm thinking there is definately some merit to the "TANG POLICE" saying 55 gallons is to small for a tang. Go figure. Just goes to show sometimes bad things turn out for the better. I think for now I will just keep the one fish and finally knock the green hair algea out of my tank!

MJAnderson
09/09/2006, 08:34 AM
I'm confused about QTing everything...

I thought when you QT for ich the 2 things you do is low salinity and copper, both of which you can't do to LR, most corals or inverts. So how do you QT everything? I've QTed corals for bugs and fish for ich, but have never QTed inverts or LR.

ledford1
09/09/2006, 09:53 AM
In QT, you don't necessarily have to lower salinity and and copper. ALthough you may choose to do so should you see a disease/parasite to treat.

You can just run a QT normally. Put in a new fish and let it acclimate to feeding and such, and of course look for any problems with the fish. Running the QT normally would allow you to keep an eye on LR additions as well. Should there be any Ich on the rock, without any fish in the tank, it won't last much longer - and you don't kill the rock with copper.

Cosmo^Kramer
09/09/2006, 05:41 PM
You don't go fishing you use a fish trap.When my regal tang had it I lowerd the salinity in a QT tank.I also used melafix in the QT.Worked out great.Melafix also kills flatworms,I discover that by accident.I'm happy so say the regal out grew my tank and is now living in a 250 gallon reef.Heres a link to the fish trap,they work great
http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewItem.asp?idproduct=UL1511