PDA

View Full Version : where oh where to drill


Catharsis70
09/06/2006, 10:46 AM
Ok so I got my 60 mm diamond hole saw and the victim is a 75 gallon perfecto. Talked to a rep and was told only the bottom is tempered so of course I am drilling the back. My question is how far from the edges is it safe to drill? Is there a minimum distance from the top, side, bottom of the panel I should be aiming for?

schlegelli
09/06/2006, 11:04 AM
I'm getting ready to do the same to my 125(waiting on bits) and I've read a few different things at a few different sites. Everything from 2 widths of hole saw to 6 inches....to center of new hole. Not much help, just passing on what I've learned. I think I'm gonna drill 2" from edge of glass unless I hear something different. Good luck!

Catharsis70
09/06/2006, 11:09 AM
Same to you! I am scared big time.

ScoobyDuu24
09/06/2006, 11:28 AM
I was planning on drilling my 125. I hate to use you guys as guinea pigs but let me know how it goes.

schlegelli
09/06/2006, 11:47 AM
as with everything in the reefing world......TAKE YOUR TIME!!!!!

8BALL_99
09/06/2006, 12:53 PM
Ahh NP. I've drilled about 100 Tanks. Everything from 20L to 180's. Just have running water going on the bit and take your time. I would Atleast drill 2" from the Edge to the edge of the hole. Don't just think about the Strength of the glass also remember to leave room for you plumbing or overflow. Its better to go to low then to high. If you drill to low you can always just add pipe to raise the water line.. If you drill to high.....

SDguy
09/06/2006, 01:10 PM
Also, what are you drilling for? Closed loop intake, CL outlet, sump return, Calfo esque overflow? For example, you don't want your closed loop intake to be too high...it might creat a vortex, and suck in air. Just some stuff to chew on.

hth

Catharsis70
09/06/2006, 01:21 PM
I drilling for overflow only.

Pbrown3701
09/06/2006, 01:39 PM
still don't drill to close to the surface of the tank. I would go as low as possible.

The lower, the more pressure you have feeding the drain. If you go to close to the top, you won't get good flow (i made this mistake on a tank recently).

ALso, when you start up the return pump, the water level will fluctuate until it stabalizes. If you are too close to the top, the up cycle could overflow the tank

Lower is better.

schlegelli
09/06/2006, 02:00 PM
I am drilling for everything...overflow, return, haven't decided about closed loop yet...

jeninjohnk
09/06/2006, 04:13 PM
you can do it it just takes time. i did my 125. i practiced on a 10 first - cracked it. ha ha ha i useed a dremel and a diamond bit. took about 50 min. a hole good luck

drinkhomebrew
09/06/2006, 04:34 PM
I plan on drill glass very soon also. What works better, high speed drill or a slower speed.

schlegelli
09/06/2006, 04:53 PM
everything I've read says between 500-800 rpm's.

tye_c
09/06/2006, 05:08 PM
The rule of thumb I have seen on here before is the width of the bit away from the edge. I have kept by that rule and never had any problems.

schlegelli
09/06/2006, 05:20 PM
hey tye_c, is that to center of hole?

tye_c
09/06/2006, 07:59 PM
Edge. If you have a 2" but then the edge of your hole should be at least 2" away from the edge.

BuffaloM
09/06/2006, 08:36 PM
When drilling a drain hole on the back of the tank in the overflow does it matter if the hole is 2" down from the top with just a downward facing elbow or should they be 2" up from the bottom and then have an upward facing elbow and a stand pipe?

Catharsis70
09/06/2006, 10:10 PM
excellent advice all. keep it coming

schlegelli
09/07/2006, 01:53 PM
thanks all....got my bits today, yeehaw....guess i'll be tryin 'em this weekend....will post success!!!!

Pbrown3701
09/07/2006, 09:11 PM
Buffalo - as long is it is not too close to the top, it doesn't matter. I would go as low as possible with the stand pipe from my experience.

schlegelli
09/10/2006, 04:13 PM
To let everyone know...just finished drilling my 125... two 2 3/8" and four 1 1/4" holes....PIECE OF CAKE!!! Made a guide hole in a scrap of 1x6, taped it to glass, squirted a little H2O in the hole, drilled a starter groove, removed the wood, formed a dam around the groove with play-dough, filled it with water, placed tape on opposite side of glass, continued drilling at medium speed until almost through, slowed rpm's for the final breakthrough....DON'T LET IT INTIMIDATE YOU...if I say so myself, looks very professional. Any help I can be of...let me know. Karl

impur
09/11/2006, 03:16 PM
I'm drilling for a CL on my 75 tonight! 6 holes!

schlegelli
09/11/2006, 03:24 PM
TAKE YOUR TIME...until you get the feel of it. I took more time on the first hole than the rest of them combined. I also stayed 2" from any edge to edge of new hole. You won't need luck, just confidence....good luck anyway LOL!!!

Catharsis70
09/12/2006, 11:18 AM
Did mine yesterday. Went smoothly, some minor chipping on the end of the hole even though I did the duct tape thing. I think the chuck on my drill might not be perfectly straight. Otherwise I would suggest anyone try it at least once. Kind of fun.

schlegelli
09/12/2006, 03:23 PM
not as bad as everyone thought eh?

Catharsis70
09/15/2006, 02:56 PM
It kind of made me drill junky! I keep looking for excuses to drill more tanks. Offering friends etc.

schlegelli
09/15/2006, 03:05 PM
yeah, i'm in the mood too !!! i still have plenty of bit left...luckily i'm drilling 2 more smaller tanks for my own system, maybe that'll keep the addiction sated for awhile hehehe!!!

donald altman
10/02/2006, 06:34 AM
Okay IO want you guys to try doing it on an established reef that is currently running.. let me know how it works.. I got a 100 gallon to do soon

BenjieC
10/02/2006, 07:37 AM
I use vegtable oil to use as a lubricant and coolant. It works great! I start with a jig I made then take it away and the oil stays in place it makes the process a whole lot easier than using water and a dam.

JustOneMoreTank
10/02/2006, 09:22 AM
I guess that everyone has looked at my thread Step-by-Step: Drilling Holes in Your Glass Tank for Bulkheads? You can find it in the DIY forum. I would cut and paste the link but I am at work and the mouse/computer doesnt work worth a lick.
Lots of info in that thread. :)