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EleganceMan
09/09/2006, 08:48 PM
I just put this thing together the last week and i need some help with how it is working. I am having a couple of problems, first one is i get tons of micro bubbles from my skimmers and the bubble chamber overflow where the display tank water enters. Second is that the refugium part in the middle is getting a film on top of the water because of no top water movement. I dont want to here about the bio ball also...i know, i know!!!
Pics are from left to right!!!

EleganceMan
09/09/2006, 08:51 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/joshvance19/Picture017.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/joshvance19/Picture020.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/joshvance19/Picture021-1.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/joshvance19/Picture023.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/joshvance19/Picture025-1.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/joshvance19/Picture026-1.jpg

EleganceMan
09/09/2006, 08:53 PM
Inner pic of the water entering into the sump
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/joshvance19/Picture019.jpg

EleganceMan
09/09/2006, 08:55 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/joshvance19/Picture022.jpg
I put all this media in here to try and stop the bubble but i need another more effective way....any ideas im open.

EleganceMan
09/09/2006, 10:21 PM
no one knows anything i could try

outy
09/09/2006, 10:56 PM
step back and give us a view/pic of the whole fuge

not sure why you have submerged bio balls

i think if your skimmer was doing its job better that film would be gone in the center, maybe with it being a new set up it just needs time. the film should be gone soon if thats the case.

outy
09/09/2006, 10:58 PM
micro bubbles are fine on that side of your fuge, as long as there not going back to the display tank i dont see a problem

msuzuki126
09/09/2006, 11:01 PM
Should get rid of the bio-balls.

EleganceMan
09/09/2006, 11:04 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/joshvance19/Picture030-1.jpg
skimmer is in a different bay than the water that has the film. as you can see the skimmer is before the fuge and they are seperated by a piece of glass so my skimmer section stay at the same water level for consistant skimming....but not really working because the level of the water in the skimmer bay may be too high anyway and i cant get the skimmer dialed in right. How high is the water supposed to be aroung this type of skimmer?

75reef
09/09/2006, 11:13 PM
I think your water level in the sump is a little high. Do you have enough capacity if the power is shut off and the tank partially drains to the sump? A deep sand bed in the refugium section would also be a benefit. Looks good though. Did you make it yourself?

mahoneyc3
09/09/2006, 11:14 PM
down the line that media is going to end up a nitrate trap, know its not staying for long, just saying- if i were you, i would sacrafice some of your more than ample fuge room for a set of bubble traps, pm me with any further questions, more than happy to help- chirs

EleganceMan
09/09/2006, 11:22 PM
Thank you for the responses.....I am planning to remove all the media on the left side of the sump and also plan for a 6 inch deep sand bed, still work in progress to day was the first day turned on. Yes 75reef their is plenty of room in case a power falure, the level on increases a bout a half inch or so. Also the i think i could increas my skimmer output if i where to make another surface skimmer in the refuge part (where the film on the water is) and connect that water directly to the intake on my skimmer. But how to do that in the space i have is the question?

EleganceMan
09/09/2006, 11:26 PM
oh and yes i did make it myself....actually really easy to do and way cheaper...all the glass was only $100 thats cut and edge sanded. but i should have bought a piece 14.5" and cut all the inside pieces my self that would have saved a lot. Thanks again

outy
09/09/2006, 11:43 PM
everythings fine and looks good in the whole pic

i would not run a dsb in the fuge, its just a detritus trap. if you saw what i clean out of my sump weekly you would not run sand. [i did for 2 years and it was a mess]

i would ditch the other bio balls on the left side where the water enters and make sure you clean the poly filter weekly so that its not a nitrate factory.

once you get your skimmer dailed in the film in the middle will go away. [skimmer needs to be raised so that its 6"-8" deep]

heres mine
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/864/p1010445ob7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

EleganceMan
09/10/2006, 12:34 AM
well i may have a couple different problems then....my skimmer sucks for one....anyone have any luck with this one? i only have about two inches i can raise it and that would put me at 10 inches submerged. bio balls are there to help stop the noise and bubbles from getting into main tank. also the sponge on the right, before the return pump chamber.. i should have made that last piece of glass about two inches off the bottom because you can see how the water is higher than where the pump is...its forceing the water through the sponge...which means when it clogs up then over the last piece of glass goes the water and more bubble problems.

outy
09/10/2006, 01:00 AM
you dont want the sponge its a nitrate factory

and as for the noise on the water entering on the left. you can add a 90 degree elbow submerged in 1-2 inches of water without using bio balls. look in my pic you can see the 90 in front of the skimmer. after looking at your pics i see you added the glass so that the water splashes. if it was me i,d yank that out

Columbo
09/10/2006, 05:25 AM
Outy-

What is that on the bottom left of Your sump?

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