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2ndThief
10/21/2006, 06:38 PM
This is my new 29 gallon biocube. Its been cycling for about two and a half weeks now and I was hoping for some feedback, tips, suggestions, advice, anything.

Plans:

1 (or 2) gold stripe clowns
1-3 sexy shrimp

rest of verterbrates and invertebrates unknown

I want to put in two more types of vertebrates but I dont know which kind, and I would love some suggestions (already a no to royal grammas or damsels).

current inhabitants:

a clean up crew
green star polyps, red mushroom, and a candy cane trumpet.

My current levels are:

0 nitrate
0 nitrite
8.1 pH
180 alkalinity
410 calcium

Pics:

front of the tank

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/fronttankbrown.jpg

left side of the tank

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/sidetank-1.jpg

right side of the tank

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/rightsidetank.jpg

green star polyps

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/greenstarpolyp.jpg

candy cane

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/candycane1.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/candycanefull.jpg

red mushroom

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/mushroom1.jpg

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here's what I would like,

any advice that you can give me for keeping this tank. What you thought on first glance, is there anything that immediately strikes you and says "he needs this right now!"? Fish suggestions would be wonderful. I am extremely open to advice, because I accept that I know next to nothing, and I dont want to waste money, and I want a healthy aquarium. Thanks and God bless.

siren
10/21/2006, 08:32 PM
fish for a nano...I'd stick with small stuff like gobys and blenny's, possibly a small clown. The sexy shrimp, I think, would make a great addition to a nano. I'd say no to the maroon clowns though. They usually come into the stores at 1 1/2 - 2" and they get HUGE as far as clowns go. Perhaps a smaller species such as tomatos or something. AS far as inverts go, there are lots of other shrimps and crabs you can get that would make a stunning addition to any tank.

Other than that, just make sure that your chems are in check at all times, and good luck!

Illuminati
10/21/2006, 10:56 PM
Before fish I'd add some more cured Live Rock. It should be the main filtration for your tank.

Fish wise I agree with Siren. Maybe a small goby (Watchman Goby or a goby that is paired up with a pistol shrimp), firefish are nice and add color to your tank. Also Assesors are nice, I have a blue one but wish I got a yellow assesor, very peaceful.

I'd pass on the maroon clown idea unless you really want one. They are so aggressive it will limit the number and type of fish you can keep in the future.
Gotta pick, 1 or 2 aggressive fish or 4-5 peaceful fish.

I would also say a pseudo but you want to keep shrimp so that isn't a good idea. I have a blue bar pseudochromis and he has gone through 6 peppermint shrimps, I finally got some Aiptasia killer since I couldn't keep a peppermint alive enough to make a dent.


If you go with the peaceful tank idea flasher wrasse's look great as well.

Check out www.marinecenter.com, I have gotten most of my fish from them and will get any future fish from them. You can see pictures & info of most of the fish I talk about there.

2ndThief
10/22/2006, 05:28 AM
thank you for the replies :)

If you could please explain this to me. Difference between LR and base rock, I think I understand difference between cured and uncured. Uncured is when the tank will have to cycle it uncured you can go ahead and add fish. Correct? Is base rock the uncured rock you put in to begin the cycle? Thanks :)

Illuminati
10/22/2006, 08:08 AM
Base rock can either be cured or uncured when you buy it but is usually uncured.

Base rock is just "ugly & shapeless" rock that would make a great base but gets covered up by nicer looking pieces.

Since base rock is cheaper than live rock (usually because it's uncured and uncured live rock is cheaper) people with huge tanks use mostly base rock and use nice show pieces of live rock on top of it when they aquascape.

2ndThief
10/22/2006, 01:22 PM
I took your advice colinadam and added ten more pounds of live rock

2ndThief
10/22/2006, 01:54 PM
alrighty here is the new look:

front

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/front2.jpg

right side

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/rightside.jpg

left side

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/leftside2.jpg

(if you look closely at this last one you can see the new mushroom and green star location)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/leftwithcoral.jpg

tell me what you think of the aquascape or if there is anything you would change if it was your tank. Thanks!

Illuminati
10/22/2006, 05:34 PM
Looks great. As long as it's stable and no rock is against the glass your off to a good start.
Rock slides are not a good thing :)

2ndThief
10/22/2006, 06:26 PM
i gave them a couple firm pats and they didn't budge, and nothing is against the glass :)

Me No Nemo
10/22/2006, 06:43 PM
Looks great. Be careful with the green star polyps...I usually suggest they go on a rock NOT attached to your general rock work. They can spread very quickly and overtake other corals and become a general nuisance in no time at all. You did great on your rockwork. Make sure you have lots of openings to allow good flow throughout the tank so as to avoid "dead" spots as these could trap food and detritious that can cause phosphate problems down the road.

I love sexy shrimp and an LFS with a good eye should be able to pick you a male and female pair. They do very well together. Another nice addition is a pom-pom crab. Red fire shrimp and cleaner shrimp are fun to watch when they climb on board the fish and clean them up. I especially get a kick out ot the shrimp climbing in the fish's mouth to clean there.

I also agree that Maroon clowns, and Tomatoes, are pretty aggressive choices, especially in a tank that small. How about some Naked clowns from ORA or their black and white oscellaris. Really different but still affordable. A nice pair of True Percs with lots of black are also really nice.

I would avoid some wrasses as they do best with a refugium to provide ample live food to keep them healthy. They like to hunt and peck and can clean out a tank's pods pretty quick.

Purple or red firefish are nice as are Starry Blennies, the goby/shrimp combos are fun to watch and, can't tell by the pics, but if you have a decent sand bed Pearl jawfish are lots of fun to watch as they move little rocks and shells around their "front doors." GL and have fun. Congrats on being an informed hobbyist and taking the time to research your livestock well. Doing so will save you lots of money and the creatures you may have inadvertently added to your tank in error from suffering and in many cases a very early demise. Marcye

2ndThief
10/22/2006, 06:54 PM
Thank you so much for your reply me no nemo, I actually was thinking about getting a fire shrimp and the fish suggestions are well noted.

2ndThief
10/22/2006, 07:30 PM
well I just went to see how my mushrom was doing and saw the greatest thing ever.

aiptasia

I've read that a way to get rid of them is with vinegar. Explain please and tell me how you have been successful in eliminating this pest. Much appreciated :)

2ndThief
10/23/2006, 03:20 PM
Hey!

Well I added a gorgeous clown. He's got white stripes and blue thin lines outlining the white with black trimmed fins. Also added two different types of zoo's (one green and one orange) and a yellow polyp coral :)

2ndThief
10/24/2006, 09:47 PM
quick updates:

I saw an aiptasia so I purchased a peppermint shrimp to hopefully take care of it, and the shrimp molted during the first night of being in my tank so I was wondering what I should do with the exoskeleton or will it take care of itself?

Here are some pics of the updated tank:

The candy cane looking less stressed

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/healthiercandycane.jpg

My new clownfish

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/clownfish.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/clownfish2.jpg

Here are the yellow polyps

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/yellowpolyp.jpg

Orange zoanthids

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/orangezoa.jpg

Green zoanthids

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/greenzoa.jpg

Question:

here is the red mushroom I've had for about a week and a half, and he is still not opening all the way, is there something I can do to help him or should I just be more patient, and what is the average wait time for him to open? (you'll have to look close for him, sorry about bad quality picture)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/closedmushroom.jpg

2ndThief
10/25/2006, 02:13 PM
I was observing my green zoas and found this growth on beside them on the same rock that came with them from the LFS. If you know what this is please tell me, I would appreciate it.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/what.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/whatt.jpg

Also, if anyone knows how to coax my red mushroom to open I would love the help, he seems to have closed up even more.

2ndThief
10/26/2006, 04:55 AM
bump

fnicklaus
10/26/2006, 09:23 AM
Those are beautiful,but they look like maroon clowns.Be advised that they get large and very territorial.Peppermint shrimp are pretty hardy and they feed on aptasia.I noticed that you have yellow polyps-they also feed on these,so Beware.The corals that you are chosing are nice beginning corals.Get rid of the aptasia immediately as it will populate like crazy and sting your corals.

fnicklaus
10/26/2006, 09:29 AM
Just saw your post.I see you got the peppermint shrimp already.Watch it around the yellow polyps.Remove the exoskeleton if you can without disturbing anything.

fnicklaus
10/26/2006, 09:32 AM
mushrooms like low flow and low light generally.

2ndThief
10/26/2006, 05:05 PM
thank you for the replies.

It is one maroon, I understand (and understood before I got him) the aggressiveness. I will add only one or two other vertebrates that will be compatibale with him (maybe a six line wrasse). Anyways, now that I've moved the mushroom coral towards the back bottom where he wont be disturbed I've been thinking about moving my green star polyps to his old position, tell me what you think (yellow circle is where he is now red circle is where he could be) do you think I should move him closer to the edge? Maybe that could help keep growth under control if it gets crazy?

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/greenstarpolypmovements.jpg

2ndThief
10/26/2006, 06:16 PM
edit: definately meant the green circle is where he could be

2ndThief
10/26/2006, 06:55 PM
I'm pretty sure that I have decided on my final stock for my vertebrates. I already have the gold striped clown and I plan on adding a sixline wrasse and a tiny little dwarf angel I think called bicolor angel (all blue with just a tiny yellow head).

Jamie1210
10/26/2006, 10:28 PM
do you mean the pygmy angel? maybe a dark blue, almost purple body with a small golden yellow face? B/c the bicolor is pretty big, and it's about half yellow and half blue :)

boomsticks
10/27/2006, 09:43 AM
Nice start! I have had a maroon clown and a perc living together for about well since I started my nano maybe almost a year ago? Can't remember, anyway yes the maroon clowns do get big but they aren't that bad except when I am cleaning the tank it hates my hands anywhere near its anemone. It will bite me, spit gravel and algea, and even headbutt my hand! Kinda funny, but when they get big they actually hurt.

2ndThief
10/27/2006, 05:02 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8424607#post8424607 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jamie1210
do you mean the pygmy angel? maybe a dark blue, almost purple body with a small golden yellow face? B/c the bicolor is pretty big, and it's about half yellow and half blue :)

Thank you! That's what it was called :) :) :)

thank you the pygmy was what it was :)

2ndThief
10/28/2006, 05:19 PM
Here are some new pics! I added some corals today:

Mushrooms:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/morefurrymushroom.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/greenfurrymushroom.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/furrymushroomside.jpg

Goniopora

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/goniopora.jpg

Full tank:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/fts.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/diagonalview.jpg

Side tank:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/rightsideview.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/leftsideview.jpg

Also, one quick question. Here is the red mushroom I purchased a while ago and it is now two pieces is this a "hey! Cool, now I've got two red mushrooms!" or "poo, now I've got no red mushroom"

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/perrydoyle/29%20gallon%20biocube/splitmushroom.jpg

MimicTang
10/29/2006, 12:27 PM
u can do maroons but you'll need to plan on getting rid of them later. GSM and WSm can get to be 6" Oscellaris would be better either black or white.

2ndThief
10/30/2006, 08:57 PM
I added a pygmy angel to the tank today and he is absolutely beautiful

tgcreef
11/01/2006, 02:48 PM
your goniopora is actually alveapora closely related

2ndThief
11/01/2006, 03:22 PM
thank you for the correction

db_triggerfish
11/01/2006, 03:23 PM
IMO SLOW DOWN, too many fishes to fast your tank has not fully cycled based on first tread (2 and 1/2 weeks on 10-21-2006). I am new to corals but as fish go imo you will have some fishes die. I saw you added more rocks many times lfs say that it is cured when it has not been cured, the die off that you can't see spiked your nitrites and then nitrates. Thanks for your thread and keep us posted.
Thanks