View Full Version : Flow suggestions for a new tank build!
I have studied and studied what I want in terms of flow in my new tank, but everything has it pros, and cons. It will either be 48x30x25 rimless from glasscages or an acrylic in the same dimensions. I like the asthetic look of the vortech's but they are pricy and can't find much info on long term usage etc. I really would like a wavebox, but not sure that would be dangerous on a rimless tank. Or just a couple 6100's or one 6200? Anything would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Kyle
gasman059
11/20/2006, 03:38 PM
More Flow! ( 1 2 3 4 )
HOPE THIS HELPS!
cmc0814
11/20/2006, 03:47 PM
Hey Kyle. I like the idea of the Vortechs, but I want the ability to make waves with them and they don't have the wavemaker yet. And for the same price you can buy a 6100 and a controller. So for right now I'm going with the 6100's.
-Chris
That's exactly whats deturing my buy. I love the Vt's but the tunze have the controller. How will the wavebox affect the rimless tank? Loosen it? Gman I will end up getting something more, but money is an object for me!
cmc0814
11/20/2006, 04:13 PM
I don't think a wavebox would have any immediate effects. Yes, I'm sure it will eventually weaken the seals, but I'm not sure that it will be enough to cause failure. Personally, I am just staying away from fear of a leak...
gasman059
11/20/2006, 05:26 PM
hey kpk money right now is an object for me so before i populate my setup mjmods it is. for now 2 1200mods targetting the specific sps area.
Yeah I saw your thread that is a good idea. I have enough to do one of something now, and save up for another later. I just don't know which to get first. I have a few seios that would work as supps to the main circ pump. Anymore suggestions? How about a 6200 and a 6080?
REEF-DADDY
11/20/2006, 09:12 PM
The wave box won't work well on a 4' tank. 2-6100 was my vote
Thanks for the heads up Steve, but why wont it work? (I believe you just wondering). Looks like the 6100s are blowing everything out of the water...
onehundred20
11/20/2006, 11:23 PM
I would say 2 6100's....
sounds like an awsome setup, i really want to do a rimless tank like this with hanging giessman lights, such a clean look. What thickness glass would you need, 1"?
Well I talked to Tom at glasscages and he said he would use 1/2" glass. The size I want is the same as one listed with braces, and also 1/2" so it won't be anything special just leave off the braces. How safe is this? I am still scared to do it?
gasman059
11/21/2006, 05:11 AM
hey man again tunzes r d way to go but it will setu back about 1,000 when all is set and done, after modding 2 1200 i'm out 100, lots of headaches but will get them fix, LOL.
cmc0814
11/21/2006, 08:51 AM
Why 1000? I was pricing 6100s the other day and with the controller they were only 390 each. I'm in the same boat as you Kyle, I'm getting either a tunze or vortech next month...but I wasn't sure about which one. It's just that there of course is the lack of wavemaking with the vortech, they can't be moved...and I really don't see a huge difference with the fact that the motor is outside the tank. The Tunzes have such a low heat transfer rate already...It just doesn't seem like there is a whole lot of comparison right now...except that the vortechs are wicked cool...
gasman059
11/21/2006, 08:59 AM
400 + 400 = $ 800 +- the rest of the other stuff such as taxes and any other paraphernalia involve = 1k right!
Yeah looks like all said and done I'll be looking at $850 w/o magnet holders, and multicontroller. I never thought I would be even discussing spending this kinda bank on freakin' powerheads, lol. I have always had a closed loop, but it's just a big pain, looks like crap etc.
Chris this is a crappy boat to be in. Either way we'll spend 800-1000 when the vortech controller comes out, but I am gonna need something pretty soon hopefully. I may just piece it together over a few months, and wait longer on the tank. Only bad part of that is glasscages is coming through in like 2 weeks! Only chance I'll have.
gasman059
11/21/2006, 09:30 AM
lol i know man, i'm on the same frikin boat but in my case its a 200 flow turnouver that i have to acomplish. Good luck
cmc0814
11/21/2006, 10:49 AM
Yeah, I think what I'm gonna do is buy 1 6100 and then wait to see what Vortech does. They may address all the things that I have problems with. And then I'll see whether I want to try a Vortech, or just get a second 6100...
gasman059
11/21/2006, 11:10 AM
or just get two maxijets with mods for 100 bucks and wait until your vortex q's are answered that's my route.
cmc0814
11/21/2006, 12:53 PM
Right, whatever you decide to do will be great, I'm sure. That's just what I plan on doing!
-Chris
the_anti_honda
11/21/2006, 03:37 PM
I say wait for the vortechs to come out with the controller. Use something else in the mean time.
cmc0814
11/21/2006, 03:46 PM
Just want to hear your thoughts, not trying to start things. Does it bother you that the vortech is non-directional? That kind of turns me off of it. Especially when it is $350.
the_anti_honda
11/21/2006, 03:56 PM
For the amount of flow you are getting with none of the electrical and heat issues not to even mention how much better it looks aesthetically it don't think it bothers me. When your running 3000 gph per powerhead in a tank I dont think it matters much if its directional. Your not going to head dead spots.
I'm with you on that honda that's alot of flow. Actually I wouldn't want to direct that anywhere. I'm still debating. How long until a controller?
dhnguyen
11/21/2006, 04:50 PM
Why don't you try the MJ1200 mod first. If worse comes to worse you're out what $40-$50 at the most? Then you can always jump on the Tunze bandwagon afterwards. Trust me on this that a MJ1200 mod can put out as much if not more flow than a Tunze 6100.
D.
D what are the MJ mods suppose to push GPH wise? Thought they where at 2000gph?
Are there new and old style tunzes?
cmc0814
11/22/2006, 09:02 AM
I think so. Because on the website, the 6100 says a max. flowrate of 3,175 gal/hr and the 6000 is 1850 gal/hr.
gasman059
11/22/2006, 02:50 PM
$100 bucks and 4,000 flow , and i mean 2000x 2 flow real flow. After this just figure out a way of bracketing them which i'm doin right now and viola!http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n320/gasman059/IMG_1803.jpg[/IMG]
gasman059
11/22/2006, 02:52 PM
some other mods at the end but u get d idea right
the_anti_honda
11/22/2006, 02:54 PM
I think the Seio controller works on the Vortech with some mods...
Not sure so don't quote me on that.. I just heard it in a thread...
dhnguyen
11/22/2006, 02:57 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8601682#post8601682 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by the_anti_honda
I think the Seio controller works on the Vortech with some mods...
Not sure so don't quote me on that.. I just heard it in a thread...
I doubt that's true. The Vortech runs on a DC motor and the SEIO controller is for AC motors.
RichConley
11/22/2006, 03:02 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8595099#post8595099 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kpk
D what are the MJ mods suppose to push GPH wise? Thought they where at 2000gph?
I havent tested the new style, but the bell housings with dumas 3004s absolutely torch my Tunze 6060. Maybe twice the flow. Its not even close, so theyre movign significantly more than 2000.
Considering the 3004 is a much larger prop than the Tunzes run, it makes sense.
RichConley
11/22/2006, 03:03 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8601707#post8601707 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dhnguyen
I doubt that's true. The Vortech runs on a DC motor and the SEIO controller is for AC motors.
Anyone checked the voltage/current numbers, and figured out whether you can run a Vortech on a Tunze controller?
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