Whats up!

[Boses]

Hey yall

I am getting started with my first tank (30g) Jamokie is helping me out. Justed wanted to say hello and hope to talk to you all soon.

Later
Boses

[sportsguy247]

Sounds good man keep us updated on how it goes.

[STACKER]

Ralph, sorry to hear Mike is helping... J/K hey, I have tons of stuff I need to unload. You guys need to hit the cash machine and stop over. I plan to just keep frags of my favorite stuff and get rid of the bulk stuff for now.

[Jamokie01]

Hey whats poppin.
Actually Dale, that isnt Ralph, this is my buddy Jason. Ralph just had the baby so he got out of salt for the time being, hes setting up the 72 bowfront as freshwater.
We will have to set up a day to stop by your place and check things out. Maybe Friday evening? Or will you still be involved in holiday matters? Do you have any fish left that you are getting rid of? Im looking for some.
Anyways, Jasons tank is being started with rock from Ralphs, so its all cured and ready to go, so hes not really gonna have to wait long before getting stuff in. His lighting will be here early to mid next week, hes got some T-5s coming, and I think we will order a cleanup crew online for him early next week as well.
Also, I have been talking to him about building a HOB refugium. Im wondering if you might be able to help out with building an acrylic tank. The dimensions would be wierd, 30-35" long, 6-8" wide and about 18" tall. Any estimate how much that might run? You know how trying to build a "welfare tank" goes. I was also thinking of building it out of glass, any suggestions?

[Jamokie01]

Oh yea by the way Dale, I told Jason to talk to you about something. Somebody bought him a wine making kit like a year or 2 ago, and he never used it because he didnt know what to do. I said youd be the guy to talk to.

And Paul, I was wondering if you still had frags from "The Great Trimming".

[STACKER]

My bad, I "assumed" again... sorry I missed your call too but I don't live and breathe on my cell so when I get home it sits in my truck. I have a yellow tang, pair of tomato clowns, LMB, bi-color blenny, serpent star, and a CB shrimp along with most of my large coral colonies all needing a home. I'm starting a nation-wide sandtrade so I need the space in the rubbermaid Stock tank. I want to get rid of the bulk stuff and keep frags. I'll get new LR and sand when I restart but keep my fav's in the nano for near future history. The sand trade starts next week so I need to get stuff out. I also have a big cheato ball and some caulerpa from the fuge that I want to thin down. They are crawling with pods!

[hookedonfish]

Yup, Still have plenty.

[Jamokie01]

Alright Paul, I wanna stop over Dales to help him clear his stuff out first, but Id like to stop by your place maybe sometime next week to check out what youve got left, if that works for you? Since my buddy is just getting started, Id like to try and start him out with some easy frags, plus I might like some myself :D.

[hookedonfish]

Sounds fine Jamokie, I will be tied up next Monday evening but should be home the rest of the week.

[Reefer247]

stacker i need some of this .. big cheato ball and some caulerpa ... and what corals you have ? any pics.. i may be intrested in a few shortly..

[STACKER]

Favia (other stuff is not for sale in the nano)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/stackr/tankmove/DSCF8709.jpg

General crappy shot

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/stackr/tankmove/DSCF8792.jpg

another general shot

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/stackr/tankmove/DSCF8837.jpg

Pagoda cup (approx. 5" x 9")

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/stackr/tankmove/DSCF8838.jpg

Fluo green shrooms and large pincushion leather (about 5" dia. and 6" tall)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/stackr/tankmove/DSCF8839.jpg

I have YSP, MSP, GSP, green paly's, tan paly's, and other misc soft stuff.

The large coral colonies are residing on LR pieces from a lb. or to to over 5 lbs.

I'm running a sand trade right now and am getting 2 cup batched in from all over the country. I'need to atleast remove the large LR pieces so I have sand space. That or bury them in the sand for now.

[Reefer247]

If you have any ric's id be intrested in them.. maybe some shrooms ... and frog spawns.. im going to stay away from some of the other stuff for now and just keep the very low maintnace corals.. as i dont have a ton of time to devote to my tank.. working 2 jobs now.. i might be able to use some small to rubble rock peices covered in Coraline to help start me back up as well.. do you have any use for an iwakie pump or panworld pump? i have 2 brand new one does like 1100-1500 gph and one does like 2500 gph.. im also looking for a mod for my big berlin skimmer to hang on the back of my tank instead of a sump again.. to many worrys with overflow..

[STACKER]

You need to contact Paul for Rics. I just fragged my frogspawn and hammer for Jamokie and they need time to rebound before I hack of any more. I really don't have any rubble I want to part with, just pieces from fist size and up. No, I have no need for any pumps. A hang-on bracket fot a skimmer would be no problem to make quickly.

[Jamokie01]

Alright Dale,
How do you feel about building a refugium for Jason? The dimensions would be 36" long 18" tall and 6" wide. We want to set it up with a small pump or powerhead run inside the right side of the refugium pulling water from the tank, this way we can setup something to skim the top of his water. There would need to be 2 dividers to prevent macro from clogging the pump or draining back out into the tank. Heres a fun 2 minute Windows Paint representation or what Im layin down for ya.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b256/Jamokie01/MadSkills.jpg

Ill take care of making a spout and drilling for an inlet, we just need the tank itself built. Whaddaya think?

[STACKER]

Simple and should be pretty easy yo make. I'll check on material cost and let you knwo what it plus a 12 pack for labor is! :)

I'll make the main tank piece from a single piece then add the baffles and end caps. The return spout can also be be an easy cut, make a couple thermal bends and glue into place. Might cost another 6 pack.... LOL

I have one simple question.. Light for the fuge? Are you using a PC or a strip light, or a twist socket fluo? I can easily add mounting tabs or bracketry for the light too.

BTW, I got an order for 2 MJ-Mods so I'll be adding a bit olf black magic mojo repair to your pumps very soon.

[STACKER]

Ok fellas plastic will hit for about $40. I'll make you a whizzbang fuge for $50 and a 12 pack. Lemme know

[Jamokie01]

Sounds good. The exact height of the tank is 16 3/4. So the spout would have to be just above that but not too high so as to cause splashing. You can start it whenever youve got time to do so.

Thanks Dale.

[STACKER]

What about the lip extending in, over the tank rim, then down to the water level or just below? No sense in not eh?

[Jamokie01]

Sounds good, theres a 3/4" lip going around the tank so ud just have to go over that.

[STACKER]

Yup

[Jamokie01]

Hey Dale I just wanted to check and see if you had a chance to get anything done with the pumps or refugium.

[STACKER]

I've been waiting on you guys! I have basically done what I could on the pump bodies but never heard any go ahead on the fuge so I've just been waiting. I can save Jason a few bucks if he's willing to go 24" wide or 10" deep. I have an unscratched sheet of PET 24 x 48 and planty of cuts to make him a cool fuge that's 1/2 bent rather than fully cut and glued. Let me know ASAP as I need to order some acrylic for paying jobs and would have to add to it for his stuff. Call my celly 330-719-3530 and I could get to work on his fuge tomorrow. Today I'm buried!

[Jamokie01]

Well i wouldnt worry about saving the few bucks. We dont have much room back there for a fuge and want to get as much extra volume out of it as we can. The original dimensions I gave you are the best way for him to go.

[STACKER]

alrighty then... So I take it you'd like me to proceed?

[Jamokie01]

Yes

[Reefer247]

slacker im thinking about getting fuge built for the 75 g.. as i dont want a sump any more .. but need to make my skimmer work with it as well.. any ideas size prices etc. thanks man.. i can go any size as i have alot of room behind the tank.. thanks mike

[STACKER]

What size tank? What size fuge do you want? You could plumb the skimmer off-line and have it drain into the fuge and use that as your fuge feed. Depends on the simmer design tho. IF you changes the out flow you change the entire dymanics of the skimmer and it may not work at all. Impossible to guess at whilr fumbling about in the dark... :)

[STACKER]

Ok, I'm ordering plastic tomorrow (too busy yesterday and I'm swamped today too) I may have it completed by late next week, depends on the curves that life tosses my way... I'll letcha know tho.

BTW, not much luck with the MJ's first high-tech repair run. I have another option that is much lower tech but I doubt I'll get to it soon unless you are in a panic. Or I could get one going as a test platform fairly soon...

D

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8778689#post8778689 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jamokie01
Yes

[Jamokie01]

Whenever you have time, no rush on my end.

[Jamokie01]

Just checking to see if you have had time to make any progress Dale. Also, how was everybodies christmas?

[STACKER]

O ordered the plastic, should be here today or Fri. If all goes well I'll have it done on Sat. if not, don't plan on hearing from me till Tue... :)

[STACKER]

It's here but I hope you're sitting down... Freight was more than the plastic sheet. $65 in freight because the sheet was bigger than UPS could ship and I had to pay the freight collect. DAMN! You needed 36 x 6 x 18 so I had to get a 48 x 48 sheet to make it happen. Better go to the bank! :) Looks like this sucker is gonna cost $89 plus labor plus beer... Oh well, you'll be getting a bigger fuge than you can get online, custom made, and still cheaper than then next closest. I'll be working on plastic most of the day tomorrow and this will be one of the projects.

[Jamokie01]

Aye Dale, just checking on any progress.

[STACKER]

It will be done tomorrow. I called Jason yesterday and left a message regarding where to put brackets and if you wanted any predrilled holes (much easier for me to do before anything is bent). I plan to add 4 hanging tabs at the same level as the bottom of the inlet and outlet plumbing which supports the fuge on the tank and takes stress off the plumbing. I also wanted to know if you wanted any mounting brackets ot stand-offs for lighting. the sides and partitions are dome and I was going to make the bends, then do the fab. Barring stupidity... it should be ready to pick-up tomorrow.

[Jamokie01]

Actually Dale, you wont really need any hanging tabs, as the fuge wont be hanging. It will be sitting on the same surface as the tank, just behind it. Id say dont worry about mounting brackets for lighting either, because we havent even picked out a fixture. Are you going to be adding a lip onto it for the return? As for the intake, we dont really need anything for that either. Ill check with him about when we can pick it up and get back to you. How much cash and beer should we bring?

[STACKER]

Ok, if you want a return spout Ineed to know exactly how high the tank is form the base to the top of the trim, how wide the trim and inside lip is (typically 5/8" for AGA) and at what level the water will be at (you probably don't want tyhe return water falling and splashing). this is why I thought it would be a good idea to use a plumbed return like the CPR design. Please call me when you get a chance 330-719-3530 so I don't make scrap. Bring lots of money and lots of beer... I'm certain I can find good use for both! Actually I'm thinking the cost to make this fuge will be in the $125-150 range (mostly due to material and shipping cost). I work cheap but I had to pay for the material and shipping COD because it came freight. I had $89 bucks in it before I even touched it. this is why I tried to talk you into a slightly smaller unit as I had a piece of material in the shop that would have been cheap cheap... Oh well!

[STACKER]

Mike, I made it, I'm not happy with it's structure at all. Way too flimsy! I think I have enough 1/4" lexan to build it as a 5 sided unit with no bends that should be alot stronger. I have a meeting at 2 and need to leave in about 10 min. I'll resume construction tomorrow AM and have the second one done in the afternoon. Still please give me a call so we can go over a few things or you'll just get a rectangular cube with 2 baffles.

[Jamokie01]

Hey Dale, I didnt even think to ask yesterday if you ever had a chance to do anything with those maxi jets for me.

[STACKER]

I started but got sidetracked.... I should have time to mess with them next week. I'll let you know

[Jamokie01]

Sounds good

[Jamokie01]

Hey Dale,
Just checking to see if you had a chance to do anything to those powerheads. If you dont have the time I could just pick them back up and adhere the sheath to the pump with some caulking.

[STACKER]

I'll get to 'em soon... Actually I have 1 of 3 repaired then forgot about the other 2 comletely. After lookingat them on Sun. I see that I have to get a replacement impeller for one and 2 new props. The repair is making plastic blocks, glueing them to the body and cowl and attaching the 2 with a zip tie. Silicon won't hold... been there, seen it fail....