Purple People Eater. Question/Help

[jjmatti]

I have noticed this growth under my PPE polyps, can anyone tell me what this is??

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e129/jjmatti/DSC00143-1.jpg

Thanks.

[MarvinsReef]

you're going to be a happy camper after those babies pop up.. looks like it's sprouting multiple babies at the same time.... I'm guessing two or three polyps will come out of that.. ;)

good luck.. keep us posted on how long it takes for the babies to come out and become apparent..

Marvin

[jjmatti]

I was really hoping thats what it was.. I inspected them over and over for any sort of disease. But since these are my first zoo giga/Paly, I wasnt sure what reproduction would look like..

Also if that what it is then I can chronicle the sprouting.. That above picture was taken 11/18:rollface:

[MarvinsReef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8591378#post8591378 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jjmatti
I was really hoping thats what it was.. I inspected them over and over for any sort of disease. But since these are my first zoo giga/Paly, I wasnt sure what reproduction would look like..

Also if that what it is then I can chronicle the sprouting.. That above picture was taken 11/18:rollface:

cool... thanks.. a weekly pic would be awesome...

btw, good start with your giga/paly collection... my favorite in the family... :)

Marvin

[mfinn]

Marvin I'm going to disagree with your assessment on the grounds that I've had ppe's for a couple years and never had new polyps come out like that.
I have had that werid growth under some polyps(not ppe) before, and it wasn't good. I separated most of the good polyps away from that growth on the colony that had that problem.
Personally I would try and get any polyps that are not connected to that growth away from it to a new rock.
I don't know what it is or what to do about it, but I don't think it's new growth.

[Reef Junkie]

That's a tough one. It's hard to say if it's that strange growth we saw here earlier this year with a few reefers or new growth. Who had that really bad?
It's looks a little like both to me, lets hope that turns into new polyps.

What was the workaround for that problem anyway? Cut out the good polyps?

[RevHtree]

IMO it is new growth! :)

[MinibowMatt]

I have had that happen and turn into new growth. But I also had that happen and then after a few weeks the bubble/cancer just went away leaving the paly's alone, just the way they were.

[jjmatti]

I am really hoping that it turns into new growth, either way ill take pics and post here. Thanks for the info.

[MarvinsReef]

here's a disturbing pic but I had to share it... this guy ended up popping multiple polyps.. but I didn't keep track with week by week pic.. unfotunately for this frag, I lost it when I moved everything to my 32g..

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b197/Marvins_Reef/12%20Gallon%20Office%20Nano/PE_Sparkle_weird.jpg

[mfinn]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8599709#post8599709 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MarvinsReef
here's a disturbing pic but I had to share it... this guy ended up popping multiple polyps.. but I didn't keep track with week by week pic.. unfotunately for this frag, I lost it when I moved everything to my 32g..

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b197/Marvins_Reef/12%20Gallon%20Office%20Nano/PE_Sparkle_weird.jpg

I had almost the exact same thing, that ended up with all of the polyps that were involved like that dissolving.
Like I said earlier, never seen new polyps come in like that on ppe's.
I really hope it works out for you. Hope to see more pictures of how it turns out.

[geo*SanAnto]

I cant really tewll where you have them placed would you elaborate if you dont mind.High ligh,flow etc. thanks

[Reef Junkie]

That's practically pornographic!:lol:
Thanks for posting it Marv.:lmao:

[jjmatti]

Got home today from a Thanksgiving trip and this is what I found.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e129/jjmatti/PPE11-24-2006.jpg

This looks much better then when I left. This to me looks like a third polyp coming out... Let me know what you guys think..

[Reef Junkie]

Looks like it could be a new polyp!:)

[ct_vol]

Wow great pics Marv and jjmatti!!!

The second pic definately looks more promising than the first... :D

[jjmatti]

Weird how it went from a growth that looked liked it would cause the eventual death of the polyp to looking like a third polyp sprouting.. I will keep taking pics and follow up in the following days/weeks.

[Reef Junkie]

PPE's are a fickle coral. When I re-acquired mine they immeadiately grew 3 new polyps in one month. It took another 3 months to grow 2 more polyps.

The one thing I noticed about my PPE's is when the polyps are ready to sprout a clone, the oral disk becomes elongated, almost elliptical. I have 3 more polyps in my colony that look like this now.:D

[jjmatti]

ReefJunkie,

Have you found any secrets to getting them to sprout quicker? More light, More flow, less flow, food, ect.....

[Reef Junkie]

I have and it will only cost you a small monthly reoccuring fee of $99., plus a very short 5 year contract.;)

Seriously, it's a mixed bag when it comes to that coral. They like flow, but not too much. Just enough to make their skirt ruffle sporadically.

As far as lights, I have been using 400 watt MH for almost 10 years now, but I have some compadres that use PC's and lower wattage MH.

With PC's you can keep them higher 5 to 15 inches from the bulbs. MH's, I'd keep them at least 10 to 15 inches from a 250 and probably 18 to 24 inches from a 400. Mine are at the bottom of the tank (24") and off center of the Luminarc Laser beam.:)

Food, don't get me started... I never feed my corals. They only get what my fish miss and poop.

A really big help is consistency. Try as hard as you possibly can NOT to touch them. If you put them in one spot, leave them there. If yours are cloning, then I'd say they're happy.

Also, keeping your parameters the same (Alk, Ph, Cal, Salinity...) will go a long way with reproducing and coloration. Unless your alk is too low, then it will eventually cause a Ph dropout and that's just plain ugly. Higher alk will also help your corals get deep rich colors.

HTH

[mfinn]

One thing I have noticed when trading or selling PPE's is when you move a frag to a new system, they seem to have a growth spurt before leveling off.

[ct_vol]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8615827#post8615827 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mfinn
One thing I have noticed when trading or selling PPE's is when you move a frag to a new system, they seem to have a growth spurt before leveling off.

Do you think that its a survival adaptation??? I've read the same things about anenome's splitting and other polyps... When stressed the animals asexually reproduce in order to increase chances of survival... I know some poeple who will purposely have temperature spikes in order to induce growth/splitting... I would think changing systems would cause similar stress... I'd rather have a healthy speciman, and let it occur naturally, than try to induce, but was wondering your guys' opinions???

[kcb1123]

Whayt does it mean if they get some speckling

my roomates has some speckling on the body thats the same color as the skirt

[ct_vol]

White speckling is usually due to intense lighting... Its not a bad thing at all... :) I kind of like them better that way...

[mfinn]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8616730#post8616730 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ct_vol
Do you think that its a survival adaptation??? I've read the same things about anenome's splitting and other polyps... When stressed the animals asexually reproduce in order to increase chances of survival... I know some poeple who will purposely have temperature spikes in order to induce growth/splitting... I would think changing systems would cause similar stress... I'd rather have a healthy speciman, and let it occur naturally, than try to induce, but was wondering your guys' opinions???


I don't know if it is or not. It could be. Who knows?

The growth spurts were done usually after a trade or sale occured and the frag was placed in the new owners tank. I don't think it has anything to do with the health of the frag.

[mfinn]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8617191#post8617191 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ct_vol
White speckling is usually due to intense lighting... Its not a bad thing at all... :) I kind of like them better that way...

I few years ago I posted a picture of my new PPE's ( when they were actually hard to get and considered rare) and they had a little bit of speckling on them. I was really proud of them. Then someone made a comment about how "ubber collectors" would consider that a mark against them and they weren't really all that great. Boy did that pop my balloon.:lol:

Now they are in style:smokin:

I should move a couple out into the direct mh light and see how speckled I can get them.:eek1:

[Reef Junkie]

Uber Collectors :lol:
You should do it, I hear all the cool kids are...:cool:

Here is an example of what I meant by the polyps becoming elongated. The bottom polyp in this picture has a bud (you can't see it) coming out where the oral disk seems to be pulled the furthest from the mouth.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/reefphd/PPEBabycopy.jpg

[jjmatti]

I said I would keep the posts up so here are some of the latest pics.
They seemed quick to bud but not to quick to turn into full polyps.


In this pic you can see that the growth from the first pics has now turned into a new polyp. I took this picture right after feeding the two main polyps. That is the reason why they are closed up.
(They seem to like mysis shrimp, I target feed and they swallow them whole..)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e129/jjmatti/PPE2.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e129/jjmatti/PPE3.jpg


In additon to this new polyp there are three more budding on the other side of the frag rock. I will get some pics of that and post them soon as well.