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EMBRYOGUY
12/05/2006, 05:58 PM
thank you to all breeders for your patience with my simple questions:

broodstock salinity 1.025,
rotifer salinity 1.015,

morning of hatch, when i add the rotifers, will the change in salinity hurt the rotifers?

my plan is to drip 1.010 sterile broodstock water on day 1. target is to achieve 1.018-20 by day 3.


is this ok>? thank yo again.

Kmiec123
12/05/2006, 06:03 PM
Books say not to change rotifers SG more than 7 pts rapidly, and more needs slower acclimation. How meny you got after hatch?

EMBRYOGUY
12/05/2006, 06:23 PM
my hatch is this weekend.

but thank you, i got some reliable info. from good sources. thank you .,

Luis A M
12/06/2006, 01:16 PM
You can hatch the eggs straight in 1.015 if you wish.No problem.

Baalz
12/06/2006, 02:05 PM
Broodstock salinity 1.025 and rotifer salinity 1.015 should not cause your rotifers to die. Them buggers are hardier then you'd suspect.
My runs same levels and Ive been doing it for years.

Dman
12/06/2006, 03:58 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8693152#post8693152 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Luis A M
You can hatch the eggs straight in 1.015 if you wish.No problem.

Isn't that a little low?
and if it isn't, how low can you go?
Sorry for the hijack.

David M
12/07/2006, 10:37 AM
Don't know how low you can go but I hatch larvae in 1.016 and keep them there until transfer usually at about 30 days. I pull the nest from broodstock tanks at 1.020 and plop them straight into the 1.016. I also keep the rotifers at 1.016. The simple reason is to make things easier re water changes. I use the same water for rots and larvae. Also keeping the larval tank sg low has many benefits including better rotifer density for co-culture.

Luis A M
12/07/2006, 11:33 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8694256#post8694256 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dman
Isn't that a little low?
and if it isn't, how low can you go?
Sorry for the hijack.
No.1.010 is fine.Around 1.009 is isotonic with body fluids.Beyond that osmoregulation should have to work like in a FW fish,which might not be possible for most species.

David M
12/07/2006, 12:45 PM
Bear in mind that diluting your salt water lowers pH at the same time.

Luis A M
12/07/2006, 01:10 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8700246#post8700246 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by David M
Bear in mind that diluting your salt water lowers pH at the same time.
Actually alkalinity is lowered,which sustains the pH.Calcium is also lowered (like everything else).

David M
12/07/2006, 01:50 PM
My bad, just shooting my mouth off again. :lol:

Kathy55g
12/07/2006, 02:00 PM
Actually, alkalinity is diluted, therefore buffering capacity is lowered, and it is much easier for your pH to swing high or low depending on what is driving it. In our systems, it will likely fall, as the CO2 is respired from the fish, thus acidifying the water. You may want to supplement the alkalinity to keep pH good, or do as Ed does, and do a water change.

Dman
12/07/2006, 03:01 PM
It also makes your salt go farther. :D:D:D All my systems are at 1.020 +/-.001.
Down, down, down she goes. Many thanks.
But......Isn't there always a but?
My pH drops like a stone all the time, I'm using Dr. RH-F's baked baking soda supplementation regime. Is there a better way (gotta be cheap, though) to do this?
Someone is gonna mistake me for Osama the way I hijack threads. :D:D:D

Kathy55g
12/07/2006, 04:12 PM
I don't think there is anything cheaper or more effective than baked baking soda. I do the same thing.

Kmiec123
12/07/2006, 04:56 PM
Just read that higher SG Makes Nitrites less Negative toward larva, but I guess not an issue with more frequent water changes :) Just a thought...Carl

David M
12/07/2006, 04:57 PM
Speaking of hijacking threads, what do you all do to test pH? Surely not some "drops in a test tube" regime, with so many tanks? I am thinking about one of those Hanna probes, anyone tried one? I guess I don't really trust the dip & read strips.

Kmiec123
12/07/2006, 05:11 PM
I Use the strips for quick Nitrite/Nitrate ref. I use drops for ph but looking into a probe as well....Carl But, I really don't have that many tanks...Yet :) Thanks for the help David...Carl Sorry E

David M
12/07/2006, 06:14 PM
What is the baked-baking soda deal? I need to raise pH.

Kmiec123
12/07/2006, 06:25 PM
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-02/rhf/index.php#20

This might help David

Kathy55g
12/07/2006, 07:05 PM
I use the milwaukee pocket ph probe, but I would love to have a real pH meter.

Luis A M
12/08/2006, 09:34 AM
Hanna pH hand meters are great,cheap,automatic calibration,precise temp.reading,etc.And water proof:)
I always heard that a home made buffer mix is 1 part Sodium carbonate and 5 parts Sodium bicarbonate.That´s cheap:)

Dman
12/08/2006, 12:14 PM
Hanna hand held as well, life saver, literally.