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vijaym85
12/08/2006, 07:49 AM
WHAT IS THE PUMP NUMBER IN THE STREAM FAMILY?
rvitko
12/08/2006, 08:12 AM
It is a 6260, a hybrid between a 6100 and 6200 that cannot be used without the 6091 wavebox controller. It will burn out without the controller.
roger, Can it use without the box?
rvitko
12/10/2006, 06:33 PM
No, not without either changing the propeller to the 6100 type or changing the transformer to the 6200 unit. It does not have a big enough transformer for continuous use.
I mean that still use the same pump, controller and transformer, acting like wavebox but without the box.
rvitko
12/11/2006, 10:28 AM
Yes but the wave effect is very reduced without the box.
thanks for the information.
triggerfish1976
12/12/2006, 10:10 AM
Can any of the standard pumps be modifed to use in a wavebox to get increased water flow?
rvitko
12/12/2006, 10:18 AM
No modification can increase the power at this time, in the future it may be possible a 6300 would make for a stronger wavebox but that has not been tested and it is possible it would just fill the tank with air bubbles from running the box dry.
triggerfish1976
12/12/2006, 10:34 AM
A 6300 in a wavebox would be insane. I hope that figure out how to make it work.
rvitko
12/12/2006, 11:31 AM
Basically, I know it would work on small tanks to make a bigger wave, but on long tanks with longer intervals the flow would empty the box and air bubble would enter the tank.
triggerfish1976
12/12/2006, 11:44 AM
One of the original demos of the wavebox showed a huge double wave in tank. The frequency was so big that the fish would move eaily 6" as they swam around the tank as the waves crested. I heard that the waveboxes that are available now were tuned down to get a more gentle wave. Is this true and if so what motor was being used on them originally?
rvitko
12/12/2006, 11:54 AM
The tank was specially designed to give this effect, it was long and narrow and shallow. The only difference is it had the bigger 6200 transformer but this is of no advantage except on a very long tank where the pump could actually ramp up to use that wattage. On a 4-6ft tank the pump never goes past 55w of consumption so the 60W transformer is more than adequate. On a bigger tank it may momentarily peak at 65W and the 80W transformer gets it the power faster and more efficiently but even then, the difference is about 1/4" in height at most.
triggerfish1976
12/12/2006, 03:05 PM
As you may remember, I have an 8' long tank so can I switch out the transformers to the 6200's or are more mods needed?
rvitko
12/12/2006, 04:00 PM
You would just switch the transformers but from experience it is a lot of money for such a nominal gain the 6200 transformer is over $100 and at best you may gain a 1/4" extra wave height but 1/16- 1/8" is more likely.
triggerfish1976
12/12/2006, 04:02 PM
Is that gain per wavebox?
vijaym85
12/13/2006, 02:32 AM
If the 6260, is a hybrid between a 6100 and 6200 then is the GPH an avergae of the two ?
rvitko
12/13/2006, 08:41 AM
The wavebox flow rate is more complicated to calculate, the pump has the same potential output as a 6200 but if you use it like a 6200 the pump will be destroyed, when used in a wavebox and the proper wave is tuned, the flow is much more.
vijaym85
12/13/2006, 04:40 PM
wow so this way the wavebox enchances the pumps ability? i am enjoying my new wavebox, just got it a few days ago. Its on a 6ft x 18 x 28tall tank. It really moves the water.
rvitko
12/13/2006, 05:00 PM
The wave it creates has a greater flow than the pump itself. The flow varies with tank size and wave height but on a 180 it is about 14000 gph
vijaym85
12/13/2006, 11:34 PM
WOW! did you say 14,000. That it amazing. That is really neat that the wvae can harness more flow than the pump itself. That really makes the device extra efficent since the wave can obtain that amount of fow and not require a high wattage pump in the process.
I had a question about tuning the wavebox to optimal efficency. Right now I attempted to tune it by placing the driver setting at the maximum and focus on just adjusting the pulse. Right now the pulse dial is set to around between 11 and 12 o'clock. I definately am seeing a nice wave at this setting. It greatly diminishes upon turning the pulse in a clockwise manner beyond 12 o'clock. Is there a better way of adjusting the device that you have found success with?
rvitko
12/14/2006, 08:45 AM
You just have to slowly turn it until a wave develops, you are trying to get one constant wave, crest on one side, trough on the other.
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