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steve414
12/18/2006, 09:26 AM
Do you no when you are going to get these pumps or when the release date is the Seio Polario

Jeremy B.
12/18/2006, 11:27 AM
Hi Steve,

We have yet to hear anything on the arrival date of these. As soon as some more information comes out we will be sure to post back here.

Thanks,
Jeremy

steve414
12/18/2006, 01:57 PM
thanks

calvin415
03/28/2007, 12:33 PM
Any update?

Jeremy B.
03/28/2007, 12:48 PM
I finally got to see one in action at a trade show in Orlando about a month ago. The smallest unit is the one that was displayed, which is about 3000gph give or take a little. THe flow pattern is excellent, and EXTREMELY wide!!! The unit itself might be a little unsightly how it mounts in the tank, but for great flow I would most certainly tolerate it in my system!

Rio is saying around the 1st of July for shipment.

Thanks,
Jeremy

gotfish8
03/28/2007, 02:48 PM
Pre orders and pricing info yet?

Ball
07/10/2007, 11:34 AM
Hello Jermey,

Have you heard any chatter about the release of the Polario's?

Thanks!

DrBDC
07/10/2007, 09:48 PM
Same here! I've been putting off ordering any more water movement since my tank upgrade just for this polario.

Jeremy B.
07/10/2007, 10:51 PM
I will give Kevin at Rio a call tomorrow and see what he has to say on the eta of them. The last I heard was the beginning of July, and I have not heard anything lately, so....

Once I hear something from Rio I will update here.

philagothos
09/22/2007, 06:15 AM
Any news?

Jeremy B.
09/23/2007, 08:49 AM
Our orders are in and have been confirmed. We should hopefully see the small and medium sized model here in about 4-6wks, hopefully a little earlier though.

badbu68
10/16/2007, 04:32 AM
Can we pre-order?

BTTRFLYGRL
10/16/2007, 11:36 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10981237#post10981237 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by badbu68
Can we pre-order?

Yes, you can call us to pre-order . :)
Kim

brad23
10/16/2007, 03:28 PM
Interested to see these running

hahnmeister
10/28/2007, 01:45 AM
I might be interested in pre-order as well... can you give us some pricing?

ianiwane
11/02/2007, 07:46 PM
Interested in pricing as well.

badbu68
12/18/2007, 11:46 PM
Any update on this?

Shlbear
12/19/2007, 07:49 AM
Last I heard was January. So should be any time now.

Michelle

kdblove_99
12/31/2007, 07:29 PM
Polario 3500 - $279

Polario 5500 - $339

aninjaatemyshoe
01/22/2008, 12:40 AM
Are they still comming out this month or have they pushed it back again?

bulldogfish
02/16/2008, 01:44 AM
I am curious about the Polario as well. I am holding off on purchasing pumps for this item.

bulldogfish
02/19/2008, 07:50 PM
Nevermind, I decided to go with another product. I think that it could be the middle of theyear before they get their stuff straight to release it.

OldmillXxX
02/29/2008, 03:59 PM
Anybody got one yet?

OldmillXxX
03/12/2008, 10:41 AM
Nobody got one or two for beta testing? Weird. Somebody always gets one for testing. If this is going to be the next BIG thing in controllable pumps, one would think that real-world testing would be started by now.

Anyone? Please?

OldmillXxX
03/31/2008, 01:07 PM
Still no update? TAAM really needs to work on marketing. There are working prototypes for years before pumps are released. Are they like Ranger boats? "We still build them one a t a time..." literally, though!

KMP
03/31/2008, 10:46 PM
i moved on. had to get something going in the tank. it's a shame as these looked like something i would be very intersted in.

shelburn61
07/30/2008, 02:35 PM
The website has the smaller version arriving July 25th. What's the word?

Any news on the larger version?

shelburn61
07/31/2008, 10:54 AM
Nothing?

jasonfrey
08/06/2008, 10:50 AM
Hi,

WE have the 22 model instock, the 5500gph. We have a couple left, we only received a partial order.

tank121
08/08/2008, 10:17 PM
Have you tried them out? Are they worth the money?

jasonfrey
08/09/2008, 05:24 PM
We haven't tried one out yet, it was such a small shipment, didn't want to take one for the shop, next shipment, we'll fire one up on the shop tank.

maxxII
12/25/2008, 10:58 PM
And what was the verdict on the one for the shop?

I'm interested in these as a possibility for a 6 foot tank.

Nick

Jeremy B.
12/26/2008, 03:50 PM
Hi Nick....

The flow that the Polario provides is extremely impressive to say the least! The width in diameter is much bigger than the Vortec pumps, and definitely stronger on the larger Polario. I would say that on a 72" tank you would want the smaller version, unless you were heavily sps dominated in the tank. HTH!

pimpinitup6969
12/26/2008, 03:55 PM
do you have any of these in stock i have been wanting one but i have never even seen one!!!

Jeremy B.
12/26/2008, 04:01 PM
Yes, we currently have good stock on both models. The smaller one can be found at http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=RIO-15ML&Category_Code=

..and the large one can be found here

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=RIO-22ML&Category_Code=

Keep in mind you do not have to run the directional screens on these that you see on the ends. So you can take those off and just run the can only, without the screens.

pimpinitup6969
12/26/2008, 04:02 PM
why is it that your the only company that stocks these?? i have asked a couple lfs and they have never even heard of them?

pimpinitup6969
12/26/2008, 04:04 PM
what are the flow rates for the smaller version im seeing that it says 5500 gallons for both?

Jeremy B.
12/26/2008, 04:37 PM
I honestly am not sure why other places are not carrying them. I apologize for the error on the site, the flow rates are as follows:

15ML - Up to 3500gph

22ML - Up to 5500gph

Thanks,
Jeremy

pimpinitup6969
12/26/2008, 04:42 PM
do you get regular shipments of them?

Jeremy B.
12/26/2008, 04:44 PM
Yes we do, they are readily available through the manufacturer. We currently have plenty of stock on both models in our warehouse right now.

pimpinitup6969
12/26/2008, 05:06 PM
which do you think will be best for a 72" 150 dominated with zoas/palys with some lps and sps

Jeremy B.
12/26/2008, 05:36 PM
I would go with the smaller version since you have a lot of low flow animals in there. However, what other means of wavemaking do you have in the system?

maxxII
12/26/2008, 05:38 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14018963#post14018963 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jeremy B.
Hi Nick....

The flow that the Polario provides is extremely impressive to say the least! The width in diameter is much bigger than the Vortec pumps, and definitely stronger on the larger Polario. I would say that on a 72" tank you would want the smaller version, unless you were heavily sps dominated in the tank. HTH!

Jeremy,
Thanks for the reply. These would be on an SPS tank. Is the flow controllable to the point that I can decide how much to ramp it up/down or is it a series of presets that the user is able to choose from? Hope that makes sense...

Pimpinit, I would bet with LPS in the tank you want the smaller one.

Nick

Jeremy B.
12/26/2008, 05:57 PM
Nick,

You have the optional for control in the following:

Flow Rate - Low to High (I'm guessing this to be 60% - 100% capacity, just by feeling the pump) You have 8 settings you can select from the low speed to the high speed on the pump.

Pump Direction - Left flow only, Right flow only, or Auto (switches left to right flow)

Pumping Intervals - 15sec, 30 sec, 45 sec, 60 sec, then 2 minutes all the way to 30 minutes meaning you can select it to rotate or to pump / not pump at these intervals. Note that you can select 2 mins, 3 mins, 4 mins, etc..., basically every minute between 2 mins and 30 mins. Or you can do the shorter intervals in the set second ranges.

Feeding Mode - You have a choice between 8 minutes and 16 minutes for this.

I think this is what you were asking. If not let me know, and I hope I didn't confuse you.

Thanks,
Jeremy

maxxII
12/26/2008, 06:02 PM
Jeremy,

Thats exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks. If I read the manufacturers propaganda right, the controller can run two polario's simulataneously? Or can it run more? Each polario ships with a controller, correct? Would this be to channelized in a 2 foot wide tank like a standard 180? Would this work as well in a 3 foot wide tank, IE the Marineland Marine series tank that are 3 feet wide from front to back?

Thanks for all the help Jeremy,

Once again, its great to have you back.

Nick

Jeremy B.
12/26/2008, 06:16 PM
Thanks Nick, I appreciate it.

I think you would be fine with one on a 30" deep tank, however 36" would really start to push it. Of course aquascaping and coral placement would have a lot to do with this as well. The flow pattern is extremely wide, and with the pump mounted in the middle you would get enough roll once it hits the side panel that the flow would come back around the front panel in the opposite direction.

Right now you can only run one pump off of each controller. The controller is included in the price of the pump.

dsgordon
02/09/2009, 03:35 PM
I am thinking about getting a Polario for use in a new 120 gallon oceanic tech display I am setting up. Mounting it inside the tank on top of the middle overflow. It will be a mixed reef with a little of everything but more on the SPS and LPS side. Would you recommend the larger 22ml model (Considering that flow can be turned down if needed) or would that be too strong on a 4' x 2' tank and should I only use the smaller 15ml model. Besides the sump return About 900 - 1000 gph combined through two lines the Polario would be the main source of wave flow possibly supplemented by a pair of maxijet 1200 that I have running now as the tank cycles.

Also would you know the dimensions of the magnet mount that holds the pump. (I would like to make sure that it will fit inside the overflow and between the overflow tubes.)

Thanks in Advance.
Dave

Jeremy B.
02/09/2009, 05:14 PM
Hi Dave,

The large one would just be way too much on a 48" tank. You can turn them down, but it's not a huge variance in output when doing so.

The magnet measures 4" x 2.5".

dsgordon
02/09/2009, 10:34 PM
Thanks Jeremy for the quick reply. I will think about the 15ml if I decide to try it. I will have too see if there is room inside the overflow for the magnet.

Dave

Jeremy B.
02/10/2009, 08:29 AM
Sounds good. Let me know if you have any other questions.

STEVEBEAM
02/10/2009, 01:29 PM
Hi Jeremy,
Have you tried the polario in a 210 All-glass or whatever they call it now? My tank has two overflows on the back wall and I was wondering if this product would be suited for my tank. The unit would have to be mounted on the back wall between the two overflows.
Thanks,
Steve

Jeremy B.
02/10/2009, 02:00 PM
Hi Steve, I currently have both sizes running. Each is in a tank by itself, but the tanks are 72" long, mounted on a single overflow in the back / middle of the tank, and the systems are bare bottom 12" deep, sps holding tanks. I think if you were all sps then the larger would be suited for you. If it's a mixed reef I would go with the smaller one. These pumps stick a few inchess off the back as well, so they won't be tucked right up against the glass.

STEVEBEAM
02/10/2009, 02:08 PM
Sorry to keep bothering you Jeremy,

Also I would like to know the warranty on this product (Taam Website states only 6 months). What is the expected service life?

$300 is a lot of money to spend on a pump if it only last for 6 months.

My 1-1/2 hp pool pump cost less moves a whole lot more water has a 3 year warranty and has been running for 4 years with no problems.

Thank You,
Steve

Jeremy B.
02/10/2009, 03:13 PM
Hi Steve.... I can't speak about them long term, as really no one knows. However they seem to be built reall well, with a nice controller on them. So far I have had no issues with them pulsing back and forth every 15 seconds.

The warranty is from the manufacturer, which is 6 months.

Thanks,
Jeremy

dzhuo
02/16/2009, 02:00 AM
Jeremy,
If I have a 150g Peninsula style (48"x30"x24") tank and I want to put one in the overflow end (the 30" side), would it work? My concern is 30" is short and the strong flow has nowhere to go (as it hits the glass soon after coming out of the pump) but up and down which makes the pump less effective and kicks the sand everywhere. Does it makes sense?

Also, how noise is this pump? For something that will be running 24x7, this is going to be a concern for me. Thx!

Jeremy B.
02/16/2009, 10:59 AM
Hi,

This Polario really wouldn't work down on the end how you're wanting to do it. What you could do is put it in the end corner, but having the pump flow facing the lenfth of the tank, and then only using one end of the Polario. This of course isn't taking full benefit from what the pump was made to do though.

The pumps have been pretty quiet. I wouldn't say they are as quiet as a Tunze Stream, but you would most likely hear other noise coming from return pumps, skimmers, etc, over the Polario.

STEVEBEAM
03/02/2009, 10:44 AM
Hi All,
I purchased the Polario. Nice flow but it sounds like an electric drill when you drive a screw into wood and clunks when it changes direction. The high pitched whine carries much further than the other equipment in my setup including a little giant 4MD that I used to think was loud. I sent the the first unit back because after speaking with the manufacturer I thought it must have been defective. I received the replacement unit and it sounded the same. I have sent both units back now.
Steve

Jeremy B.
03/02/2009, 10:48 AM
This is the first I have heard of the whine. I have a couple of friends using them, as well as the two I am using at the shop here, and while there is a little noise to all of them, it doesn't really seem that loud to me? I wonder if some are quieter than others.

maxxII
03/02/2009, 11:40 AM
A LFS has two of the smaller ones running in a Marineland 300 gallon display tank. It makes zero noise.

Nick

STEVEBEAM
03/02/2009, 12:07 PM
A LFS is a noisy place to judge how much noise a pump produces. Try it at home in your living room. My unit was the larger 22ML.
Steve

maxxII
03/02/2009, 12:14 PM
This one isnt.....

Not saying you dont have the problems with yours, but I dont hear what you're describing. Jeremy doesnt hear what you are describing either....

Nick

Jeremy B.
03/02/2009, 01:18 PM
Steve could most certainly be getting some noise. I found another peson online a few months ago that mentioned the same thing on it. I'm going to take one home tonight out of the box and test to see what it's like.

STEVEBEAM
03/03/2009, 02:08 PM
Hi Jeremy,
How did it go last night?
Steve

Jeremy B.
03/03/2009, 02:32 PM
I got it home, but unfortunately didn't get a chance to hook it up. Our newborn was being quite the little cranky one last night! :) I'll get it going tonight and post back here.

STEVEBEAM
03/04/2009, 06:08 PM
Hi Jeremy,
Have you been able to test one in your house?
Thanks, Steve

Jeremy B.
03/05/2009, 08:27 AM
I did! I ran the smaller one last night at home, and honestly it really wasn't loud at all. I got a VERY slight hum to it, but my system is dead quiet, and I could hardly hear it. I made sure that the tv was off, and no other noise was around me in the house.

STEVEBEAM
03/05/2009, 09:04 AM
Thank You Jeremy for testing the smaller one. However it is the larger 22ML that I believe has the problem. Please take one of these home and test.
Thank You,
Steve

STEVEBEAM
03/09/2009, 09:32 AM
Hi Jeremy,
Have you been able to test the larger model 22ML?
Steve

Jeremy B.
03/09/2009, 09:37 AM
I have not had a chance to test the larger one yet. I will try and get that done either tomorrow night or Wednesday night. I'll report back here as soon as I know something.

STEVEBEAM
03/17/2009, 11:43 AM
Hi Jeremy,
Have you been able to test the larger model 22ML?
Steve

Jeremy B.
03/17/2009, 02:37 PM
Yes, tested last week and it ran just fine, with very minimal noise. I would actually say it was quieter than the 15 that I tested.

STEVEBEAM
03/17/2009, 03:09 PM
Ok Then mine must have been a bad unit. I will send it back and ask for an exchange.

STEVEBEAM
03/17/2009, 03:10 PM
This will be the third unit

bulbyman
03/18/2009, 06:20 PM
I am running the smaller one ina 125 for about a month, no problem so far. A lot of flow for a good price.

philagothos
03/21/2009, 10:52 PM
Hey Jeremy, I just set up my 22ML I purchased this afternoon from you guys. It's in a 125 Megaflow (dual overflows) that is planned to be SPS dominate. I've got it changing directions every 60 seconds. It's relatively quiet, won't interfere with watching TV and it's right next to the couch. I am thinking about adding a second 22ML because it just doesn't seem like the kind of flow I was expecting. Still good flow and I love the fact that it is controllable and quiet.

Thanks!
-Kevin

Jeremy B.
03/22/2009, 07:28 AM
Hey Kevin, do you have it turned all the way up? Of course I have always ran these in shallow tanks, ~ 12" or so. In something that is deeper like a 125, you might want to keep a 22ml up high, them maybe do another 15ml down lower on the back wall behind the rock work.

philagothos
03/22/2009, 09:29 AM
It's about midtank right now. I haven't finished the aquascaping yet so there's no telling how that will impact the flow. I've got it at max flow and I would say it would likely be fine for softies & lps, but I'm not convinced it will keep sps happy. I think we're going to go with another 22ml just in case one ever fails. I figure I can just crank them both down if it's too much flow.

I'm definitely getting dead spots in the corners because of the flow deflecting off of the overflows. I might have to drop a maxijet back there to keep the corners moving. I've also thought of trying to mount a polario on each overflow, but I'm not sure that will work. I'm also concerned that as strong as the magnets are they might crush the two walls of the overflow together. On the positive side the 22ml is much quieter than the 4 Sureflow MJs it replaced and my sand isn't getting blown away near as bad. I'm pretty sure that even another 22ml won't make it near as loud as the Sureflows.

agentgreen
06/17/2009, 10:48 AM
Any updates on these pumps? Just found these and think it would be nice for my future 120G.

Jeremy B.
06/18/2009, 08:38 AM
They provide excellent back and forth water movement for a pretty good price versus the amount of flow they are pushing. We currently have both sizes in stock.

agentgreen
06/18/2009, 08:44 AM
Anyone have any video of it in action?