Looks like its time to starting dosing ALk. Suggestions?
Up until now I've been able to maintain my ALK level with regular water changes every two weeks. I first noticed a change in ALK after my last change a little over two weeks ago. Three days ago I made another water change. The ALK is 7.28. Prior to the last two water changes, a water change every two weeks was holding my tank steady in the 9 dkh range. Obviously that's no longer getting the job done.
I have two BRS dosing pumps for ALK and CAL ready to go with the reservoir and the Neptune system. Now what do I do to get this tank steady? Heck, I've even got the mix of soda ash already to go and on the shelf thinking I was going to need it before now. I'm shooting for 9 dkh. The tank seems to be averaging 7.3. What now? I'd like to make it automatic and begin using my system to handle it. Just looking for some guidance from those that have been there done that. This part is new. I'm zapping this thread out tonight and plan to begin reading a lot on it tomorrow. |
BRS has a handful of good videos on 2 part using their pumps, they walk you through getting to your target and then show you how to automate it to stay there. I highly recommend checking it out.
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I have a 112 gallon system. Taking into account live rock, substrate, etc., I'm going to use 80 gallon water volume for the sake of this discussion. I may have more water volume, but since this is the first go at dosing ALK, I figured I'd error on the safe side. After a quick calculation on BRS using the 2 part BRS Alkalinity and 80 gallons of water, the calculator tells me to add 3.3 oz of mix. Now the part I'm not yet familiar with...how to automate it. I was thinking maybe I'd get the tank's ALK level to 9 by manually dosing then come back in 5 days, remeasure using my Red Sea Marine Pro kit and see where its fallen to. That way I can determine the drop and calibrate my dosing pumps accordingly. Don't know how to calibrate the pumps but should be able to figure that out pretty easy. Isn't there a program or something for the apex? Is it better to dose at night or day? I know adding soda ash will increase the PH.
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Mcozad, love the Chris Farley quote. What a funny dude!
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Just remember to only bring your alk up by 1dkh a day. Anymore then that can have detrimental affects on your coral.
As said above, get your daily consumption down. Then setup your doser. I would recommend testing every other day and hand dosing for a week or so before setting up the pumps so you know you have it right. As far how to setup the BRS dosers in your apex. When I used them I used this calc to get my apex programming. https://www.reeftronics.net/adpg/dosingcalc.php Input the volume of the doser, amount you want to dose, times you want to dose, and it gives you the code to put in your apex. EDIT to add: If your just dosing ALK, you may want to consider plain arm and hammer baking soda. Loads cheaper then BRS soda ash, and what probably close to 99% of what most of us use for an alkalinity supplement. Just google Randy's DIY 2 part. You can bake the baking soda in the oven for soda ash(to raise PH), or just plain baking soda(lowers PH slightly) mixed with RO/DI. |
This is great info and extremely helpful. I'll begin this evening (slowly). THanks.
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I'm curious...just how long after I dose does it take a tank to stabilize to the new level?
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^^^What they have said^^^
Because the change on a day to day can be fairly small, I would suggest bringing it up to your target range and then wait a week to test again. Divide the result by 7 to get your daily consumption. With hobby grade test kits, the difference one day to the next can easily fall within the margin of error for whatever test kit you are using. A little OCD can go a long way in eliminating that as well. Do the test exactly the same way every time. My only other suggestion would be to make sure you test at the same time of day each time. You can then remove that particular variable from the equation. |
Thanks for all these tips. I got the "ocd" when it comes to my tank! That's part of the fun of this hobby.
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Keep in mind that your magnisum must be around 1350 or you will never get a correct Alk reading....if Mag is to low....you can dose Alk forever and it will not change.....
Make sure your problem is actually the bio load first, then work on dosing... |
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Indeed MG should be corrected first and kept stable, my system just didn't need MG dosed until after Alk then Cal respectively. |
Okay, guys. Let me see if I'm understanding how this will move forward. Double check my math for me.
I manually brought the tank back to my target 9dkh. In 7 days the dkh dropped to 8. Using the BRS calculator, I determined in order to bring the dkh back to 9 I would need 57 ml. I divided 57 ml by 7 days to get 8.14 ml per day of alkalinity consumption. Since the BRS dosing pumps dose 1.1 ml / minute I am calculating I will need to run my pumps 7.4 minutes per day, giver or take. 57/7=8.14; 8.14/1.1=7.4. Does this sound about right? Thoughts? |
I've been working on this Alk thing. Quite frankly, I've ticked off some corals. The SPS are doing fine. But my softies have been very irritated with the change. Which got me reading even more. That's when I came across this article I wanted to share. It helped me understand some things I had questions about. And its got me rethinking some things as well. http://reefinabox.com/right-alkalinity-coral-growth/
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