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OffshoreNdeep 03/12/2009 10:47 AM

BC's 140g rimless build
 
Welcome to my build. Its been a while since I posted here, I've been busy at work and missed alot of LIRA meeting, I'm a lousy member. However, I've been reading a ton of info on RC to help me with this build, thanks everyone. Anyway, I recently started making some headway with my tank upgrade and could use some feedback and opinions from those interested. Thanks for looking!

The basics:
- Tank 140g rimless by Glass Cages 3/4" glass Starfire front and sides.
- Sump 45g acrylic, gave Glass Cages the design.
- Skimmer MSX-200
- Light (on the way) custom by Catalina USA 3 x 250w MH's (15,000k Reef Grow) 4 x 54w T-5 Actinics, 10 blue moon LED's

Here's the new tank ready for water!

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...dyforwater.jpg


A little background before we begin the new build.

My old 90g tall setup is still running to keep livestock. Using Koralia 3's for flow, Turbo Twist UV (not sure how useful but fish have been parasite free), 2 x 150w (14k phoenix) with T-5 actinincs. I like tanks that are simple and clean looking, really wanted a rimless tank and had my eye on an Elos 120XL but didn't pull the trigger. Figured I just go with a moderate setup since I have alot more to learn before investing tons of dough into a setup like that.

Old 90g tall. December 2008 w/black background

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...ef7/122108.jpg

Early 2008 w/blue background, I like this look better

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...7/P1190437.jpg

Then I had to move the 90g tank while putting in new floors during the holidays. Sadly, you'll notice below I lost a bunch of corals/clams in the temporary move from my living room to my office. Not sure why, I pulled everything out, removed all LR and sand. The bin holding the corals was clean, tank water was used, had heater and small powerhead. Fish and inverts were all fine, but in another container, its a mystery?? Still have some decent pieces left to start new tank, this was quickly aquascaped, did not put the substrate back in.

Jan. 2009, after the move, back to blue background (I like), bare bottom (ugly, needs sand)

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...f7/10309-1.jpg

Current fish:
- Hippo tang
- Yellow tang
- Spotted Kole tang (coolest dude)
- Solan fairy wrasse
- Ocellaris clown (lives like a king in 2 RBTA's and 2 GBTA's)

Fish I want to add to new tank:
- Powder blue tang (may hear from the tang police)
- Copper band butterfly
- Ocellaris clown (large female)

Corals: Unfortunately I lost about 2 dozen nice pieces in the move, lost my nicest LPS and few sps colonies, but I have some decent pieces left to start with. New tank will have more SPS. Still have;
- Torch
- Frogspawn
- Hammer
- Green Bali Slimer
- Several small SPS colonies
- Fiji yellow
- Scolymia
- var shrooms and large tree coral

Inverts - Lost all my clams in the move, but still have;
- 2 RBTA
- 2 GBTA
- Long spine urchin
- Linkia star
- 2 cleaner shrimp

My cool, Spotted Kole Tang!

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...edKoleTang.jpg


more coming on the new build...

greggnyce 03/12/2009 01:40 PM

Lookin good so far.

Editour2 03/13/2009 08:12 AM

Looks good! So did the old tanks. Curious question: why do you prefer the blue background over the black? I'm debating a new tank and can't decide. I currently have a blue background but I'm constantly cleaning the algae buildup off so that it remains blue. I thought that black might be easier since the coraline would be less noticeable.

pyro383 03/13/2009 08:16 AM

I think black makes the colors pop more and a blue adds depth

OffshoreNdeep 03/13/2009 10:09 AM

Pyro, good points. The blue looks a bit more natural to me watching fish and brightens the tank, the black certainly make the corals stand out.

Honestly, I'm not sure which I like better. That's why I made the background.

It is velcro'd to the back of the tank, velcro points are hidden behind the overflows.

The beauty of the back panel, if I get tired of one color I can just paint the other side black and flip it.

I accidentally dropped it trying to install by myself. Luckily the crack is hidden by the gigantic overflow.


http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...undcracked.jpg

OffshoreNdeep 03/13/2009 10:19 AM

Editour, thanks for the compliments! IMO, the blue blends the algae a little better. I also try to clean glass before any coralline has a chance to anchor. Just don't paint the back of your tank unless your sure.

Editour2 03/13/2009 12:23 PM

Actually the tank I'm thinking of purchasing comes with either a blue or black enclosure for the back. I have to make up my mind before I choose the tank.

ONEWAY 03/15/2009 12:00 PM

do the black

Aerowen 03/15/2009 12:17 PM

why did you decide to add a female clown, instead of adding a smaller clown than the one already established? are you sure the clown you have is a male?

OffshoreNdeep 03/16/2009 06:59 AM

I'm guessing the one I have now is a male, its pretty small and has not grown past 1.5" in 3 years? I'm not sure though. I added a smaller one a year ago and it was getting harassed and then disappeared. I have read that females are larger than the males and I would like to try that combo. It probably wouldn't work in the old tank where the little one is already established but figured I'd try it before they claim their territory in the new tank. Is that a bad idea?

OffshoreNdeep 03/16/2009 02:37 PM

Here are a few pics of the build.


Leveling stand, my bro in-law had a cool laser. The room slopes down, had to adjust 1/2"

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...velingtank.jpg

Tank move, met the delivery truck in White Plains, rented a cargo van, dollies and suction cups (a must with heavy tanks). They said the tank weighs 600lbs emtpy (due to 3/4" glass and doubled up on the bottom), it was closer to 500lb's, we still took it slow.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Tankmove2.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Tankmove1.jpg

There is quite a noticeable difference between the Starfire and normal glass. You can see by the color of the wall.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...vsOriginal.jpg

Plumbing design seems to fit ok.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...mmerinsump.jpg

Water running ok, still no leaks and quiet!! Just need to clean up wires and make a bubble trap in the fuge.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...7/Leaktest.jpg

It took 2 days to fill new tank with RO/DI, mixed salt for another 24 hrs, temps steady. Then I swapped half water from old tank with new tank water. I took about 50lb's of liverock from old tank, added 80lbs livesand 1" deep, surprised how little cloudiness there was. Begin the mini cycle.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...iewcycling.jpg

Skimmer already pulling after 6 hrs of use, little wet but a good start. Smelled very different, must have been the bacteria from the new live sand?

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...f7/wetskim.jpg

24hrs later, water is already clear, all readings pretty much zero, getting slight 10-20ppm reading in nitrates. No biggie, probably be another 2 weeks before fish coral can begin to move in.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...f7/Cycling.jpg

OffshoreNdeep 03/16/2009 03:08 PM

This past weekend was very productive, the light was also shipped.

Arrived from California in 2 very nicely packaged boxes and a crate, thought we were getting a body!!

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...tpackaging.jpg

Fingers crossed for the metal halide test, all good and the fans were quiet, nice German reflectors (1000watts total), I had to get my shades to turn it off.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...Halidetest.jpg

Actinics and moonlights also passed inspection (moonlights have a dimmer).
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...Moonlights.jpg

It took me a few months to decide on this fixture. I needed a combination light, smallest possible with enough wattage. I heard some mixed reviews from past years about this Company, but only good things about the newer designs. The light also comes with a 5 year warranty, made in good ol' USA which I like. Now I have to figure how to hang the thing.


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