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EMUReef 01/07/2010 05:57 PM

mocha clown?
 
My LFS had a few of these the other day, i think it was like 2 for 100$.

Anyone got any in their tank?

Is a 12g Nano suitable for 2?

dun2run 01/07/2010 08:20 PM

I got a pair about 3 weeks ago. They are pretty cool cause they are different. Thats what I paid for them.

tahoe61 01/07/2010 08:25 PM

Mocha Clowns
 
Yes a pair could go in a 12 gal tank, if they are the only fish and you keep up with WC. I have the same tank and have two B/W clowns in the 12 gal nano with a brain coral and a couple of snails and hermit crabs, I can still add more LPS or soft corals but I am maxed out on fish.:fish2:

WDLV 01/08/2010 10:50 AM

Mocha clown??? What the fornication is that?

MarinaP 01/08/2010 11:39 AM

Ocellaris x percula most likely, aka chocolate clowns. Creativity is just killing me :rolleyes:

romsoccer12 01/08/2010 11:52 AM

you guys mean darwins? ive never heard of choclate clowns or mocha clowns...

EMUReef 01/08/2010 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romsoccer12 (Post 16345625)
you guys mean darwins? ive never heard of choclate clowns or mocha clowns...

dont ask me, i could barely find any pictures by searching google, but they were labeled as mocha clowns at my LFS, they have 4 of them.

1DeR9_3Hy 01/08/2010 12:30 PM

Maybe a saddle back with less barring?

1DeR9_3Hy 01/08/2010 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarinaP (Post 16345550)
Ocellaris x percula most likely, aka chocolate clowns. Creativity is just killing me :rolleyes:

Ive never seen an occy x perc hybrid that looked different than there parents. I would have a hard time telling they are even hybrids if it was not for the sticker on the tank.

MarinaP 01/08/2010 12:50 PM

Edit:

Black ocellaris x percula.

t4zalews 01/08/2010 02:58 PM

pics?

brich1027 01/08/2010 03:29 PM

Black O x Reg O? or is that a Chocolate Clown?

RUBBAGAGOW 01/08/2010 04:24 PM

They are from Sea and Reef Aquaculture. Darwin (black ocellaris) X with regular Ocellaris.

EMUReef 01/08/2010 07:07 PM

http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f6...cs-138106.html

go there, the only thing i could find that looks like them. there not really black, their mocha, like a coffee color almost.

fishieness 01/08/2010 11:13 PM

Ill take a picture of some tomorrow for you guys.

E.intheC 01/08/2010 11:19 PM

emu, those pics look like juvenile black and whites. I've seen them that color before, and when they 'grow up' they darken.

I could be wrong though. (Happens.. lol)

fishieness 01/09/2010 05:48 PM

here you guys go!
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/DSCF3800.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/DSCF3801.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/DSCF3802.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/DSCF3803.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/DSCF3804.jpg
The same company also breeds a white percula similar to the ORA platinums. Here's a picture.
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/DSCF3813.jpg
And a picture of the platinums for comparison.
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/DSCF3812.jpg
and a few more of the mochas!
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/DSCF3821.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/DSCF3822.jpg
PS: these guys are definitely not just juvi blacks.

romsoccer12 01/09/2010 06:15 PM

those are black and whites. maybe mochas are the cross between a black/white ocell and a orange/white ocell = brown?

fishieness 01/09/2010 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romsoccer12 (Post 16353329)
those are black and whites. maybe mochas are the cross between a black/white ocell and a orange/white ocell = brown?

no they are not. They are mochas. And yes, it's a cross between a black and a normal ocell, as rubbagagow mentioned.

WDLV 01/09/2010 08:16 PM

Thanks for the pics.

casualreefer 01/09/2010 11:02 PM

LOL, this cracks me up. we just had a huge discussion/argument about these and "maine blizzard clowns" on another site. if you search "maine blizzard clownfish" in google click on the first link that comes up to see the posts. its seems this guy soren who is in maine is breeding clowns. the name "mocha" and "maine blizzard clowns" also came up in this conversation. it finally just stopped because nobody could get a straight answer out of the guy, he had no facts that these NEW blizzards were actually this guy sorens own work or whether he was just coming up with a new name for clowns that already had been named. I am in no way saying this guy soren didn't come up with his own "white" clown through breeding but we could never get a straight answer...... google search "maine blizzard clown" its a pretty funny thread!

copokie 01/09/2010 11:17 PM

look like regular black & whites that havnt compleatly developed to me. just saying

EileenLH 01/10/2010 07:11 PM

Those of you that have the "mocha" clowns, can you tell me how old are the ones you have/have seen? And what color brown (light brown, almost black, etc.) are they? I have been raising the fry of my black ocellaris x orange ocellaris for the past few months, and I was wondering if they were going to be black, orange, some of each, or a brown or rusty color. They aren't mature enough yet for me to tell how they'll turn out and I'm really curious. I'm also curious about the genetics - which genes are dominant, which are recessive, etc. Does anyone know where I can get more info on the genetics?

LLTooSweet 03/03/2011 11:17 PM

For some reason I seem to like these more than the Platinums. I don't like the black and whites neither. I guess I'll settle for in between. lolz

Tahoe Reefer 03/04/2011 10:46 AM

I've got a clown thats 1/2 Snowflake Oci and 1/2 Darwin Oci being called a S'more. It's got alot of black in it but it's no where near as dark as the clowns you've got.


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