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Mr. Comer 08/19/2016 10:18 AM
Jebao DCP return pump?
 
I'm looking to upgrade my return pump and ran into the "new" DCP 6500. I was going to buy another DCT-6500 but this looks interesting. Anyone buy one yet?

Mr. Comer 08/19/2016 08:24 PM
Here is a link to the new pump...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JECOD-JEBAO-...EAAOSwARZXiPM3

gus6464 08/19/2016 11:32 PM
Looks like they are now sine wave and have standard US fittings for hard plumbing. The controller box also looks beefier somewhat. Might have to pick one up once fish street gets them in.

Fredfish 08/20/2016 06:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gus6464 (Post 24690508)
Looks like they are now sine wave and have standard US fittings for hard plumbing. The controller box also looks beefier somewhat. Might have to pick one up once fish street gets them in.
Its an AC pump??

Harry Muscle 08/20/2016 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Fredfish (Post 24690683)
Its an AC pump??
It's most likely the same as the Deepwater Aquatics pump from an electrical point ... so AC from the wall outlet gets converted to DC by the power supply and then the DC gets converted to a sine wave that probably doesn't alternate (ie: voltage doesn't reverse) by the controller. Why a sine wave is better than pulse width modulation that their previous models used I'm not sure though.

Thanks,
Harry

scooter31707 08/20/2016 07:20 AM
Check out the Simplicity. I got one for my 240 upgrade and love it and nice price.

Fredfish 08/20/2016 08:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Muscle (Post 24690747)
It's most likely the same as the Deepwater Aquatics pump from an electrical point ... so AC from the wall outlet gets converted to DC by the power supply and then the DC gets converted to a sine wave that probably doesn't alternate (ie: voltage doesn't reverse) by the controller. Why a sine wave is better than pulse width modulation that their previous models used I'm not sure though.

Thanks,
Harry
Thanks for the explanation. From the tag line on one of the pictures, I suspect it is to make the pump quieter.

Harry Muscle 08/20/2016 08:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredfish (Post 24690837)
Thanks for the explanation. From the tag line on one of the pictures, I suspect it is to make the pump quieter.
Actually that would make sense. Pulse Width Modulation had abrupt changes from on to off which might cause vibrations. Using a sine wave that gradually changes from on to off would probably help.

Thanks,
Harry

Fredfish 08/20/2016 08:39 PM
Despite what some say about "cheap Chinese junk" these guys seem to be working hard to improve their pump. I think this is the third new release in three years.

Ou8me2 08/21/2016 03:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredfish (Post 24691827)
Despite what some say about "cheap Chinese junk" these guys seem to be working hard to improve their pump. I think this is the third new release in three years.
It's the 4th gen actually. DC, DCT, DCS and Now DCP. The DCS line really isn't that old. I bought a DCT4000 and I'm very happy with it for now. Glad to see they are trying to improve their product and I hope they do the same with the Crossflow pumps also.

Ron Reefman 08/21/2016 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ou8me2 (Post 24692044)
It's the 4th gen actually. DC, DCT, DCS and Now DCP. The DCS line really isn't that old. I bought a DCT4000 and I'm very happy with it for now. Glad to see they are trying to improve their product and I hope they do the same with the Crossflow pumps also.
+1

I have 3 original DC12000 that all work 100% OK after 3 years. With my new build I just got a DCT15000 used for a month by a friend and it works great as well. BTW my Crossflow works just as well as my Maxspect Gyre. The controller is quite as good, but for way less than 1/2 the cost...

Mr. Comer 08/21/2016 07:38 PM
I ordered the DCP-6500 today and it's supposed to be here by Friday. I'll keep you all posted.

gus6464 08/21/2016 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Comer (Post 24693259)
I ordered the DCP-6500 today and it's supposed to be here by Friday. I'll keep you all posted.
Nice. Let us know how fast you get it as I think I'm going to order the DCP-8000 for new tank. I like the US fittings now for hard plumb which will make it super easy for manifold.

kzaveri19 08/22/2016 12:30 PM
I just bought the DCS 7000 last week and its doing great.

Mr. Comer 08/24/2016 06:44 PM
I received my dcp-6500 two days early! I decided to run in on my lifereef skimmer instead of my return just incase of a failure. I moved my dct-6000 to my return since it's ran flawless the last six months.

Initial impressions:
-build quality seems better than the dct-6000
-display module looks and feels higher quality
-kind of cool seeing the actual watts
-so far it is quieter than the dct-6000 but it's to early to tell
-it does not come with a barbed fittings so a little hard plumbing was needed

After hour one I am very happy with this purchase. Feel free to ask any questions.

Fredfish 08/24/2016 07:31 PM
Thanks for the update. It will be interesting to see your impressions over the next little while.

Pablos RSM 450 08/24/2016 07:40 PM
Looks very promissing. So far I am happy with both my DCT 6000s. Might get a DCP and turn one of the DCT as a spare. Looked up videos on it and so far none.

Buddy55 08/25/2016 09:07 AM
Hopefully this thread stays current with feedback. I'm interested in doing some big changes to my tank including a new pump.

gus6464 08/26/2016 07:08 PM
Pics?

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Pivitol 08/26/2016 07:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Comer (Post 24698490)
I received my dcp-6500 two days early! I decided to run in on my lifereef skimmer instead of my return just incase of a failure. I moved my dct-6000 to my return since it's ran flawless the last six months.

Initial impressions:
-build quality seems better than the dct-6000
-display module looks and feels higher quality
-kind of cool seeing the actual watts
-so far it is quieter than the dct-6000 but it's to early to tell
-it does not come with a barbed fittings so a little hard plumbing was needed

After hour one I am very happy with this purchase. Feel free to ask any questions.
How many feet of head do you have?

abhishek@1985 08/28/2016 08:03 AM
Pics ? And interested in how much of head pressure can it handle.

Regards,
Abhishek

Harry Muscle 08/29/2016 06:35 PM
I was just doing some research into the new DCP8000 pump and I noticed that it draws 65W, the same as the 3rd generation DCS9000 pump which is rated for about 260gph more flow at the same power ... if that's all correct then I guess the extra quiet sine wave system isn't as efficient yet.

Thanks,
Harry

Mr. Comer 08/29/2016 06:56 PM
Here is a quick iPhone pic. I have it running at 75 percent and seems to have less wine than the dct series http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...7023f44e88.jpg


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ThRoewer 08/29/2016 11:23 PM
I have the DC 9000 on my system and the pump is working fine.
Though I had to remove the back cover as it was rattling.
Another issue I had was that the power supply burned out - though a replacement was easily found at Amazon.

Mr. Comer 08/30/2016 10:49 AM
Here is a pic from unboxing http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...b502902b6d.jpg


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fishgate 08/30/2016 11:06 AM
I have found the Jebao pumps are really good with high head heights. Mine is over 6 feet of head mostly straight up and still getting a lot of flow out of it.

Mr. Comer 09/06/2016 09:22 AM
I think the DCP is the quietest pump I have owned. This weekend I gave my lifereef skimmer a vinegar bath in a 30g tank while running the pump at 100%. The pump sounded like a Cobalt MJ1200. I had a hard time hearing if it was on. I'm one of those OCD guys when it comes to noises and I'm loving the pump so far....

Fredfish 09/07/2016 11:41 PM
Well, that sounds encouraging. :)

ReefTankHunter 09/08/2016 07:03 AM
Where is the DCP 10000. Thats the one I need.

abhishek@1985 09/17/2016 06:57 AM
Any new updates on the Dcp 6500 ? Could someone post the plumbing done to connect the return line ?

Regards,
ABHISHEK

Mr. Comer 09/25/2016 08:36 AM
My DCP is still running great, quiet, and no issues. It's hard for me to see how well it's performing when it comes to GPH/head pressure since it's on my skimmer. This pump is on my new build that has a much smaller bioload. So it's hard to compare it to the DCT-6000 that I had running on the skimmer. The only complaint I have is the intake does not have a intake screen to keep the critters out. This isn't an issue for my setup but could be for others.

Mr. Comer 09/25/2016 08:42 AM
Here is pic of the pump in action http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...dd58a0e1c2.jpg


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jason2459 09/26/2016 09:32 AM
Apex controllable?

LXXero 09/26/2016 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jason2459 (Post 24749016)
Apex controllable?
Don't believe so...these are nice, but i'll probably hold out for the COR pumps.

The apex support on my waveline dc-6000 was bugged. Sometimes pump wouldn't restart when apex was plugged in. Actually sometimes it won't restart if water is still back-siphoning either. Not sure if it was the same problem or not...I should do some more testing. In either case, would be curious to know if these pumps have any of those issues restarting after power loss.

jason2459 09/26/2016 10:00 PM
I haven't had that issue yet on my waveline dc12000 for my skimmer. It gets shutdown 4 times a day during automatic feedings.

Francisco_PR 10/17/2016 09:36 AM
I was looking at these DCP pumps for my for a 75Gal with a 20Gal sump build, need some advice, should I go with the 6500 or the 8000? The tank will be plumbed with two 3/4" return lines, since I don't know exactly the head loss has leaning towards the 8000. Also there will be no manifold since I will be running a full syphon overflow.

Any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ou8me2 10/17/2016 10:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Francisco_PR (Post 24779919)
I was looking at these DCP pumps for my for a 75Gal with a 20Gal sump build, need some advice, should I go with the 6500 or the 8000? The tank will be plumbed with two 3/4" return lines, since I don't know exactly the head loss has leaning towards the 8000. Also there will be no manifold since I will be running a full syphon overflow.

Any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks,
You can calculate head loss here http://www.reefcentral.com/index.php...oss-calculator

I have 75 with 35 gallon sump and I use an older DCT 4000 which runs a max of 1056GPH with 0 Headloss and I have it on Setting 6 and have plenty of flow.

I would think the DCP 6500 would be ok since it has Adjustable Flow Between 848GPH to 1717GPH and honestly that seems like over kill to me. I do about 5-7 X turnover from tank to sump and you really don't need 10X.

I don't own the DCP, but I noticed it says " New Digital Controller- Speed Control Settings Between 30-100" So maybe 30% is the lowest you can run?

SaltyMember 10/17/2016 11:52 AM
Just wanted to give my input. I have the 6500 pump running on my 65g seahorse tank which gets fed 2-3 times a day. No issues with restarting and the soft start feature is very nice. Flow is great. I am running it at only 28 percent since it is too much for my 20 long sump if I push it more than that.


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Bluefish9 10/17/2016 01:12 PM
This is encouraging. Though I havent put water in the system yet, I just picked up the dct12000 for my 150g build. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...497105729a.jpg


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SaltyMember 10/17/2016 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluefish9 (Post 24780290)
This is encouraging. Though I havent put water in the system yet, I just picked up the dct12000 for my 150g build. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...497105729a.jpg


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Nice sump setup and plumbing. I am using the Icecap K120 skimmer and am very happy with it. What model is that you have there?


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Francisco_PR 10/17/2016 03:23 PM
Thanks everyone for the info, made the head loss computation using estimated measures and selected the Mag 18 pump since there is no Jebao 6500 in the calculator, the result is a 1,080 GPH flow which is more that I need, if I did it correctly. Question in the Head Loss calculator, if I am planning to have two return lines, the vertical length in feet is for one pipe or should I add the length of the second pipe. I was looking at the DCP 8000 because the difference in price is like $10.

Francisco_PR 10/17/2016 03:25 PM
Bluefish9, Very nice and clean setup.

Bluefish9 10/17/2016 03:54 PM
Thank you! Its the k2160. Build quality is awesome. Obviously I haven't tried it out yet though...


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mr9iron 11/06/2016 09:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kzaveri19 (Post 24694311)
I just bought the DCS 7000 last week and its doing great.
What size fitting connects to the output of this pump? Can I see a picture of how you plumbed it?

Bluefish9 11/07/2016 07:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Francisco_PR (Post 24780527)
Bluefish9, Very nice and clean setup.


Thank you!


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Mr. Comer 11/07/2016 10:07 AM
My dcp 6500 is still running perfectly. I definitely like it better than the dct series. Here is an updated pic of it working. I finally completed my sump area.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...b2c782a84b.jpg


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jason2459 11/07/2016 10:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr9iron (Post 24809612)
What size fitting connects to the output of this pump? Can I see a picture of how you plumbed it?
I wouldn't use this externally but I used regular schedule 40 PVC fittings.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...52791763a0.jpg

Tacostrk 11/07/2016 12:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jason2459 (Post 24810183)
I wouldn't use this externally but I used regular schedule 40 PVC fittings.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...52791763a0.jpg
Do I see a metal hose clamp coming off your mag drive pump? You shouldn't use metal where it will be submerged or near water

jason2459 11/07/2016 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Tacostrk (Post 24810355)
Do I see a metal hose clamp coming off your mag drive pump? You shouldn't use metal where it will be submerged or near water
I wasn't worried about it at all.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2519839

Quote:
Originally Posted by jason2459 (Post 24579963)
I just got done doing this

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...014978e5d7.jpg

The waveline dc12000 is ready to go for next week.

1.25" FTP to 1" slip.
1" Spaflex pvc to a spears union. I like they are a bit more compact in size.
1" slip to 3/4" MTP
3/4" FTP/Slip elbow
Then the rest is all 3/4" setup just like the stock setup.

I found I had all the parts. (I have WAY to much "stuff" sitting on shelves collected over the years)

And this allows for 0 need for any clamps. Unions allow for easy disassembly and maintenance. That spaflex is going to keep shape a heck of a lot better too. I notice that vinyl tubing kind of narrowing in spots. I was hoping the braided kind would keep shape better.

The waveline came with two of these little washers like you have on a garden hose and it fit right in that 1 1/4" FTP side so slid it in there. Between that and the tape it should be more then good enough for in sump use.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...fdeaff3d06.jpg

PBAF 11/07/2016 06:37 PM
I got my DCP 8000's in today.
They are currently running on level 60 with a consumption of 22W in a 32gal Brute can full of FW.

The pumps are very powerful.
Output level is adjustable from 30-100, in increments of 1. So you can really fine tune this pump.
At their lowest setting they consume 8W, and at their highest setting 55-56W.

Standing a couple feet away I cannot hear any noise from the pumps. If I place me ear on the lid of the can, I can hear a light hum.

The return pump section of my sump is 45cm x 15cm x 17.7cm. I can fit both pumps in there easily, they are pretty compact.


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