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pgr11 05/04/2012 12:12 PM

New AI Vega info
 
Check it out
http://************.com/2012/05/04/f...ai-vega-color/
Holy crap it looks cool

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6Speed 05/04/2012 12:54 PM

wow! very nice! I foresee some radion owners selling theirs soon as this hits the shelves!

AI still the most powerful and now taking the crown back with color.

gldnegle76 05/04/2012 02:11 PM

Hope they're working on upgrades for the Sols that add more colors as well.

TheFishTeen 05/04/2012 02:26 PM

Video: (By the time you watch this it may be removed, read below to find out why).

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From AI:
Quote:

“We’re excited to hear the feedback regarding the release version of the AI Vega, but didn’t intend for this pre-production cut to be for public viewing. We intended to keep it internal until the official release which will be in the coming weeks, but that clearly didn’t work. We will fill RB in with final specs and pricing as we get closer to the launch, and debut the other products we have in the pipeline.”

Bill@IA 05/04/2012 02:32 PM

AI VEGAS, Baby!!

OwenReefin 05/04/2012 03:38 PM

Oh nice.

Saltwatercoral2 05/04/2012 04:16 PM

I think I am gonna get these, was wanting leds, and been trying to hold off till I seen these. but these look super nice

AndyH5512 05/04/2012 07:00 PM

Any idea if these will work with a Macbook? I want to upgrade to LED's, however I would like for them to be Mac friendly.

that Fish Guy 05/04/2012 10:00 PM

Wow :fish2:

Addiction2SPS 05/04/2012 10:14 PM

Awesome! Might have to upgrade my sol blues

jfingers8 05/05/2012 12:10 AM

I don't think Radion users are going to sell there Radions to get these. If anything they are going to do the same thing as Radion with the colors. So why would Radion users sell there lights to get new fixtures with the same colors in it, except UV which in my opinion does nothing as my frag tank has par38's over them with some UV leds in it and I don't see a difference at all from another other light. I think Ecotech will remain on top of there game.

SoLiD 05/05/2012 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jfingers8 (Post 20217087)
I don't think Radion users are going to sell there Radions to get these. If anything they are going to do the same thing as Radion with the colors. So why would Radion users sell there lights to get new fixtures with the same colors in it, except UV which in my opinion does nothing as my frag tank has par38's over them with some UV leds in it and I don't see a difference at all from another other light. I think Ecotech will remain on top of there game.

It's called PAR buddy.... Radions LACK the PAR they are priced at! $750 for a LED module that gets trounced by a $400 one is just pathetic. If the Radion costed $500 I wouldn't be arguing this point. To each his own. :fun4:

jfingers8 05/05/2012 12:31 AM

Why don't you read up on PAR and see how over hyped it is. Par isn't everything. You don't hear anyone complaining about Radions except for price and you hear a ton of people complain and sell there AI's because of coral brown out especially SPS. AI people will stick with AI and Radion people with stick with Radion. You see Radion is top dog right now and probably will be hard to beat as with a lot of there other products are. Your right to each there own. I've been in the hobby for 7 years, own 5 tanks and made the biggest mistake of jumping into the AI. Now I have Radions and man, I couldn't be happier. I love how most people try to compare the two, but never owned both of them and seen the difference. I have so I have a right to state my opinion. I'm sure you never owned Radions. I hate people that complain about price. If you can't afford them, don't buy them. Price isn't a issue when you can afford it. Definitely worth the money in my opinion. Night and day with my corals on AI vs. Radion. Why don't you put some Radions over your tank and let it run for 6 months and then come talk to me.

jfingers8 05/05/2012 12:36 AM

As far as PAR goes, anyone could of made a fixture shooting laser beams into there tank and get great PAR, even though PAR is not even close to everything. Lets make a fixture and have people fry everything and not be able to run there light over 50%. What is the point of ALL THE PAR, if you can only use half of it? Not going to argue though, don't have time and that is why I hate posting stuff on these boards because you can never say something without idiot saying **** they don't even know what they are talking about.

TimothyJ 05/05/2012 12:47 AM

#1 rule of all forums is everyone thinks what they have is best and their opinion is right. Sadly it gets in the way of a lot of open minded conversation.

With that being said, I own an AI product and am excited by this video and hope their older products will be upgradable.

Canadaguy 05/05/2012 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLiD (Post 20217103)
It's called PAR buddy.... Radions LACK the PAR they are priced at! $750 for a LED module that gets trounced by a $400 one is just pathetic. If the Radion costed $500 I wouldn't be arguing this point. To each his own. :fun4:

Have you owned both the Radion and AI together with a par meter by chance?

SoLiD 05/05/2012 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfingers8 (Post 20217119)
Why don't you read up on PAR and see how over hyped it is. Par isn't everything. You don't hear anyone complaining about Radions except for price and you hear a ton of people complain and sell there AI's because of coral brown out especially SPS. AI people will stick with AI and Radion people with stick with Radion. You see Radion is top dog right now and probably will be hard to beat as with a lot of there other products are. Your right to each there own. I've been in the hobby for 7 years, own 5 tanks and made the biggest mistake of jumping into the AI. Now I have Radions and man, I couldn't be happier. I love how most people try to compare the two, but never owned both of them and seen the difference. I have so I have a right to state my opinion. I'm sure you never owned Radions. I hate people that complain about price. If you can't afford them, don't buy them. Price isn't a issue when you can afford it. Definitely worth the money in my opinion. Night and day with my corals on AI vs. Radion. Why don't you put some Radions over your tank and let it run for 6 months and then come talk to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfingers8 (Post 20217132)
As far as PAR goes, anyone could of made a fixture shooting laser beams into there tank and get great PAR, even though PAR is not even close to everything. Lets make a fixture and have people fry everything and not be able to run there light over 50%. What is the point of ALL THE PAR, if you can only use half of it? Not going to argue though, don't have time and that is why I hate posting stuff on these boards because you can never say something without idiot saying **** they don't even know what they are talking about.

OK.... First off, Let me apologize for inciting an argument on this thread. Those who know me would say I'm passionate about my interests; which ever they may be. I should have worded my comment in a more constructive way and once again I apologize for it.

Money isn't the issue with me. It never has been. My issue is space and ease of my tank to be moved. The issue is "Value" or "Worth". Just because something is more expensive, that Doesn't mean that it is a hands down Better Value. I've been running 4 AI SOL Blue modules over my 40 breeder for 6 months now and I have been Extremely Satisfied with the Efficiency, Performance, Growth, and Color. Granted I do have mostly LPS. My SPS pieces do look great as well. But SPS are always tricky since they can be very particular with so many variables. I was considering removing 1 SOL and adding 2 Radions between the 3 remianing AI SOL's just to se what it would do for color and I still might do that. My issue is I've never seen the corals in a "Radion Lit Tank" that looked better than a "AI SOL Lit Tank". Has anyone? I need pictures and comparisions. If you know of any growth pictures of corals on Radion Only Lit Tanks shoot em my way.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showpo...4&postcount=79

TimeConsumer 05/05/2012 06:35 AM

It's curious that on the article they hint that this is one of two versions that will be released. The AI Vega Color and what I'm guessing will just be the AI Vega. What can we expect from the base model?

Additionally, there seem to be a lot of color LEDs in comparison to white. I wonder how this will affect growth.

As far as success vs Radion, Kessil and other fixtures on the market. I think it will all depend where they set themselves in the pricing structure. I'll be interested to see what these retail for. If I can light my 75g for ~$800 there's a good chance I'd buy into them.

MedRed 05/05/2012 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLiD (Post 20217219)
OK.... First off, Let me apologize for inciting an argument on this thread. Those who know me would say I'm passionate about my interests; which ever they may be. I should have worded my comment in a more constructive way and once again I apologize for it.

Money isn't the issue with me. It never has been. My issue is space and ease of my tank to be moved. The issue is "Value" or "Worth". Just because something is more expensive, that Doesn't mean that it is a hands down Better Value. I've been running 4 AI SOL Blue modules over my 40 breeder for 6 months now and I have been Extremely Satisfied with the Efficiency, Performance, Growth, and Color. Granted I do have mostly LPS. My SPS pieces do look great as well. But SPS are always tricky since they can be very particular with so many variables. I was considering removing 1 SOL and adding 2 Radions between the 3 remianing AI SOL's just to se what it would do for color and I still might do that. My issue is I've never seen the corals in a "Radion Lit Tank" that looked better than a "AI SOL Lit Tank". Has anyone? I need pictures and comparisions. If you know of any growth pictures of corals on Radion Only Lit Tanks shoot em my way.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showpo...4&postcount=79

Had two AI Sol Blues on my tank for a year and switched to two Radions. The Radions far outperformed the SOL Blues in color spread, uniformity of light, coral color, and coral growth. I never took a par meter to them, but there was no comparison between the real world results. It only took two weeks before coral growth accelerated. That being said... I don't feel LED's are replacement for MH and/or T5's if coral coloration is a priority.

SoLiD 05/05/2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MedRed (Post 20217866)
Had two AI Sol Blues on my tank for a year and switched to two Radions. The Radions far outperformed the SOL Blues in color spread, uniformity of light, coral color, and coral growth. I never took a par meter to them, but there was no comparison between the real world results. It only took two weeks before coral growth accelerated. That being said... I don't feel LED's are replacement for MH and/or T5's if coral coloration is a priority.

I've seen your YouTube Channel. Do you have some color comparison photos? I'm sure having 2 Radions to supplement color would be much better than buying some Stunner Strips or Panorama modules. If only these AI Vega's were out already...... :)

SoLiD 05/05/2012 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canadaguy (Post 20217173)
Have you owned both the Radion and AI together with a par meter by chance?

I've Never Owned The Radions, but I do own an Apogee MQ-200 PAR Meter.

MedRed 05/05/2012 12:12 PM

2 x Aqua Illumination Sol Blue
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2 x Ecotech Radions
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1 x Giesemann Infiniti 250w MH + 4xT5
[IMG]http://i47.*******.com/21jxflv.jpg[/IMG]

SoLiD 05/05/2012 12:20 PM

So MED, are you using a Metal Halide \ T5 Fixture now?

jfingers8 05/05/2012 12:23 PM

I apologize also, it just gets frustrating sometimes, but o well I'm over it. All I know from experience is, again I think PAR is over rated. I know my growth and color is far superior running 2 Radions then when I was running 3 AI's over my 75. I only run my Radions on 50% overall intensity. Now that being said I have a Undata Monti that had decent growth by the body was brown and the polyps are a baby blue. When I started running Radions I put the Undata on the sand bed just to see how far the Radions can penetrate. I am starting to see the body turn greenish and the rim turning purple. My tank is 18 inches deep. Running at 50% and have a Undata Monti coloring up on a sand bed is pretty good in my opinion as far as penetration goes. I know AI's can punch deeper, but again they are beams. I think Radions can punch deeper than what people think. My point was when I first posted was, I think 99% of people are happy with there Radions and wouldn't consider going to AI because why would you change when you are extremely happy with what you have. To me AI hasn't proven themselves as far as color goes with SPS corals. I think Radions have. To each there own. Me personally it doesn't even cross my mind to get rid of my Radions for the AI Vega Color.

Casey8 05/05/2012 12:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by medred (Post 20217866)
i don't feel led's are replacement for mh and/or t5's if coral coloration is a priority.

Good point !


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