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bridun22ajl 11/29/2008 09:42 PM

For those dosing prodibio bioptim and biodigest
 
What other products are you dosing whether it be prodibio, zeo, brightwell, fuana marine etc.?

I am just starting to dose these 2 products after i have been using brightwell AA's and Koralkolar for a little over a month with some success in achieving brighter colors.

Thanks for any input.
-Brian

Ian 11/30/2008 01:24 AM

Start dosing the Reefbooster after 6 weeks of the optim and digest...

SunnyX 11/30/2008 07:40 AM

Other then Biodigest and Biooptim I use Reefbooster. I wouldnt run the first two with Reefbooster. They really will clean up your tank, but Reefbooster help keep your tank from becoming "too clean". I dose it once a week and it has worked out great for me.

bridun22ajl 11/30/2008 09:01 AM

Do you guys follow the directions when it comes to dosing the biodigest and the bioptim and does it ever 15 days or do you dose more or less then that?

and Doesnt anyone use other things besides reef booster? I was thinking of usings fuana marine ultra organic and some zeo stuff like sponge power and maybe pohols coral snow.

SunnyX 11/30/2008 09:28 AM

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13844016#post13844016 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bridun22ajl
Do you guys follow the directions when it comes to dosing the biodigest and the bioptim and does it ever 15 days or do you dose more or less then that?

and Doesnt anyone use other things besides reef booster? I was thinking of usings fuana marine ultra organic and some zeo stuff like sponge power and maybe pohols coral snow.

I follow the directions when dosing all Prodibio products. Bacteria is pretty powerful stuff so over dosing could be fatal.

What don't you like about Reefbooster?

I find it works great. Plus, it only cost me $36 for an 8 Month supply of it.

You really cant go wrong.

Medicine Man 11/30/2008 09:58 AM

What if you are dosing Vodka? I dose Bio-Digest but have always thought the Vodka gave the necessary "fuel" for the bacteria in Bio-Digest. What do you think?

saltcreep12065 11/30/2008 10:02 AM

I second that question.....

SunnyX 11/30/2008 11:10 AM

To answer your question, yes vodka is a suitable substitution for Bioptim.
You can go with VSV method and dose Bio-digest along with vodka, sugar, and vinegar.

You can find more info about the system here: http://glassbox-design.com/2008/achi...perimentation/

bridun22ajl 11/30/2008 11:13 AM

its not that i dont like reefbooster...i have never used it. I was just considering using something a little more powerful to feed the corals.

Do you know what is in reefbooster?
and do you know whati s in fuana marines ultra organic?

SunnyX 11/30/2008 11:46 AM

I could only find online retail store that had Fauna Marin Ultra Organic for sale. There was no ingredient list nor dosing instructions.

Info from their respective websites:

REEF BOOSTER

REEF BOOSTER contains very high concentrations of the polyunsaturated fatty acid groups which all marine organisms need. A few drops in the food of marine fish make it more appetizing - an effective solution when starting to feed difficult or recently imported fish.

Contents:

Phospholipids, Aminosäuren, meerestypische Fettsäuren, Vitamin, Carotenoide.
Phospholipids, amino acids, omega-3 marine fatty acids, vitamins, carotenoids...

Fauna Marin Ultra Organic:

ULTRA Organic describes a new path towards a much more beautiful reef tank through steady progress in our product line development. Combined with UltraMin/S and the specifically aligned receips our nutrient system is double-acting and your corals will be supplied with all necessary organic nutrients and organically-bound trace elements for the maximazation of growth, coloration, and polyp extensions. Your corals won’t lack anything.

Logzor 11/30/2008 11:54 AM

Sunny what do you mean by reefbooster "cleaning up your tank"?

Do you mean algae and the like? I wouldent mind trying this if such a supply lasts that long at that price.

Where do you get it and how / when do you dose?

Ian 11/30/2008 12:21 PM

You can get the Reefbooster from Marine depot or So Cal Tropical... Heres what Ive been dosing with no ill effects...

Bioptim and Biodigest, together once a week for 6 weeks.
On the 7th week, add the reefbooster. Continue the reefbooster every week but bump the optim and digest down to everyother week. I also dose vodka the days that I DONT dose the Prodibio.

I also started dosing ZEOvits Xtra, sponge power and B-Balance. The description of the product sounded promising and So Cal Tropical had them 25% off so I figured why not??

I also dose Warner Marines aminos 2x a week...

bridun22ajl 11/30/2008 04:08 PM

how many vials per gallon do you guys use of the digest and bioptim?

Ian 11/30/2008 05:22 PM

one vial per 100 gallons for any of the 3 additives is what I dose

Medicine Man 11/30/2008 06:01 PM

I thought the directions read 1 vial per 1000 liters, which is roughly 250 gallons? How much do you guys dose?

bridun22ajl 11/30/2008 06:13 PM

ian, i see you have a 90g. thats what i have also with a 30 g sump but i think i have somewhere around 100g net. so i should dose the biodigest and then directly after that dose the bioptim? and just one vial of each? how many gallons can one vial do? just wondering.

Medicine Man 11/30/2008 06:26 PM

The instructions on the website say 1 vial will do up to 1000 liters which is approx. 250 gallon.

ccradr 11/30/2008 07:25 PM

I will chime in a little. I use BioDigest and BioTim once per week on my 265. I also dose 3ml of vodka per day except on Prodibio days. I use reefbooster sparingly at a third of the doseage. I also use Elos Amino acids along with Zeo's Sponge Power and Coral Vital. Works great for me.

mpoletti 11/30/2008 08:42 PM

I am pretty new in the probidio game. I started off with two vials of biodigest and one vial of bioptim three weeks ago. I am dosing every 14 days the same regimen; 2 vials of biodigest and 1 of bioptim. My system is a 180 gallon display and a 40 gallon sump' so lets call it 180 gallons of net water. I feed heavy on a daily basis.
If I was to try anything else, it might be the sponge power. I do not know why other people are using probidio, but I am using it as a nutrient aid as I really like to feed the tank.

mpoletti 11/30/2008 08:46 PM

Aquarium start up > - Rapid set-up for nitrification and biological balance. 1 ampoule per
60 litres

1 ampoule
for the filter
Nitrite surges
Adding fish. > - Adjustment of nitrification activity.
After bactericidal treatment > - After elimination of treatment products, to boost biological filtration.

Dirty aquarium
Proliferation of algae. > - Reduction of algae and cleaning by digestion of food, organic sludge and nitrate reduction.
1 ampoule
up to 1.000 litres
every 15 days

Red algae in sea water
> - To rebalance Nitrates /Phosphates ratios.
Inexplicable diseases > - Reduction of stress and pathogenic micro-organisms.
Regular maintenance > - To conserve and optimise ratios between the useful strains of bacteria.


Why all 15 days ?

BIO DIGEST is particularly efficient the 2 weeks that follow its application. Bacterial multiplication speeds, different according to strains, allow to preserve these optimal purification proportions 15 days. If one wants to accelerate the process of purification it is not necessary to overdose but to near utilizations. Each week for example.

Aquarium starting up :

1 ampoule per 60 litres + 1 ampoule for the filter.

Aquarium purifier :

1 ampoule up to 1.000 litres every 15 days.

mpoletti 11/30/2008 08:49 PM

Prodibio Bioptim is a trace element supplement for marine aquarium. Prodibio Bioptim contains micro-nutrients, trace elements, amino acids and natural vitamins which enhance the activity of the good bacteria in your tank to improve the water quality of the aquarium. Prodibio Bioptim optimises the oxidation-reduction levels in your tank water and reduces infections and mycosis. This water treatment should be added to your tank following the manufacturer's guidelines.

1 ampoule for 200 liters every two weeks. Stir before use.

mpoletti 11/30/2008 08:52 PM

I guess I have started out slow because we really do not know the long tern effects of overdosing any supplement into our tanks. I trust the scientist and biologist who have patented their product. That is why I steer on the side of caution ;)

acpoweradapter 11/30/2008 10:20 PM

When do you fit water changing into this regiment? Before you dose?

mpoletti 12/01/2008 09:02 AM

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13849006#post13849006 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by acpoweradapter
When do you fit water changing into this regiment? Before you dose?
Yes.

acpoweradapter 12/01/2008 12:46 PM

So which product would y'all reccomend to dose to a 30 gal tank with a 20 gal sump. I know about the prodibio nano but I can't find it sold without the strontium and iodine boost vials also. Would it be good to have those Anyway or is there another product I should know about?
Thanks for the help- David


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