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tjw00 04/15/2011 01:56 PM

RODI Pressure!
 
So I decided to upgrade my RODI unit from my ancient coralife system to a BRS 5 stage unit. I live on the 10th floor of a 52 story building with the water tank on the roof, so I've always had amazing water pressure, but never knew how much PSI. So the BRS RODI has a pressure gauge, and when I hooked it up today and turned on the water, the needle was pinned all the way , way off the charts past the 100 psi limit.

So , can anyone recommend someplace online to get a glycerin filled pressure gauge that read max of 200 or 250 psi so I can replace the 100PSI gauge.

Thnx

jeff@zina.com 04/15/2011 02:13 PM

Might want to look for a pressure reducer instead. Most RO membranes have a maximum pressure too. I know Grainger sells water pressure gauges in that range, might find one locally.

Jeff

tjw00 04/15/2011 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff@zina.com (Post 18648457)
Might want to look for a pressure reducer instead. Most RO membranes have a maximum pressure too. I know Grainger sells water pressure gauges in that range, might find one locally.

Jeff

thnx, I'll check out grainger. The membrane has a max operating pressure of 300 psi. Given the height of my building, the max static pressure should be somewhere around 200 psi. Guess I'll go with the 250 psi gauge from grainger. :fun5:

kc350twin 04/15/2011 03:31 PM

Most people would love to have that much pressure. I had to use a booster pump to get the pressure up for the dual membrane. Lucky dog.

tjw00 04/15/2011 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc350twin (Post 18648753)
Most people would love to have that much pressure. I had to use a booster pump to get the pressure up for the dual membrane. Lucky dog.

Yes, I've been lucky with the pressure and also for NYers in the hobby like me we're also blessed with tap water with a tds out of the faucet of 38.

Buckeye Hydro 04/16/2011 07:58 AM

Let's back up a little...

Jeff hit the nail on the head above. The max pressure you should be exposing your system to by plumbing code is 80 psi. Best if you don't expose clear housings to over 60 psi. So you need to reduce the pressure reaching the system, rather than worry about measuring the high pressure accurately. You need a pressure reducing valve:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...eregulator.gif

Recommend you DO NOT run the system with the current high pressure - you're playing with fire...

Russ

Buckeye Hydro 04/16/2011 08:02 AM

If you are going to run it with the high pressure, think about placing it in the bathtub. If you get a failure at over 100psi it will make a big mess in a big hurry.

Russ

Harry_Y 04/16/2011 08:29 AM

I would say over 100 is defiantly over the top.

I have 80 psi and I thought that was on the high end of the scale

Buckeye Hydro 04/16/2011 09:33 AM

The membrane can handle much more. The clear housings are the "weak link in the chain" in terms of being able to handle high pressure.

Russ

ChuckLawson 04/16/2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckeyeFS (Post 18651127)
Let's back up a little...

Jeff hit the nail on the head above. The max pressure you should be exposing your system to by plumbing code is 80 psi. Best if you don't expose clear housings to over 60 psi. So you need to reduce the pressure reaching the system, rather than worry about measuring the high pressure accurately. You need a pressure reducing valve:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...eregulator.gif

Recommend you DO NOT run the system with the current high pressure - you're playing with fire...

Russ


What he said. I've been having problems the last ten years or so with faucets, toilet fill valves, etc. wearing out very fast, and with leaks around the cartridges of my RODI, float valves failing, etc. Never put two and two together until I added a pressure gauge to my my RODI and found I was at 95psi. Apparently the city bumped up the water pressure when a bunch of new houses went in nearby.

Long story short, I ended up paying a plumber to come in and put a pressure regulator on the water main to drop the whole house to 65psi. My RODI no longer runs quite as fast, but I've got a whole lot fewer problems with my RODI and plumbing in general. As a bonus, running water has gotten a lot quieter -- you can no longer hear three rooms away when the RODI unit is on.

tjw00 04/16/2011 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckeyeFS (Post 18651140)
If you are going to run it with the high pressure, think about placing it in the bathtub. If you get a failure at over 100psi it will make a big mess in a big hurry.

Russ

Thanks. I think I will do that from now on.

Been running the old coralife unit for almost 4 years on the same pressure and never had a problem. But this BRS unit, while well built, has more stages and connections, so more points to fail at. I never thought of the clear cylinder as a weak point. I always thought it would be a pressure fitting that would pop off.

Thnx.

Buckeye Hydro 04/16/2011 01:03 PM

Nope. The fittings, tubing, membrane, and membrane housing can all take higher pressure than the clear housings...

beatle 04/16/2011 02:10 PM

I didn't know the canisters needed to be limited in their pressure. I run my booster pump in this configuration:

http://www.thefilterguys.biz/images/...AGEdiagram.JPG

Pressure measured between my final carbon block going into the membrane is around 95 psi. House pressure is ~60psi.

Buckeye Hydro 04/16/2011 02:56 PM

Best to put the booster pump in this position:
prefilters->strainer->pump->RO->DI


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