Ultra lithe and Zeovit

jkhchris · 04/07/2008, 08:20 PM

I was wondering if the Ultra lithe Zeolithe and Zeovit Zeolite media are the same thing. Reason I ask is there is price difference here where I am. I run the Ultra lithe system and like it but find the Zeolithe is quite abit more expensive and really and trying to do things a little cheaper. Not sure if any has tested mixing these products with one or the other.
Thanks, Chris

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PSam · 04/08/2008, 08:49 AM

I'm not sure if the zeolites are the same in the zeo / fm systems. They look similar, but there are over 100 synthetic zeolites and something like 50 natural ones. Personally, I'd buy the one made for the system you're running.

Bebo77 · 04/08/2008, 08:56 AM

they may not be exactly the same... but they do the same thing...

PSam · 04/08/2008, 09:49 AM

The desired end effect is basically the same, but I'm not sure that the process to reach it is the same.

zeo manual:

At this point we would like to warn you not to use just any zeolite. There are several hundred different materials with this name. Every zeolite has been designed or modified for a specific use. Using a zeolite with the wrong properties could have detrimental effects on your tank and lead to the loss of all animals. Such total crashes have been reported to us in the past when the wrong zeolites were used. A visual selection or comparison is not possible since different zeolite material often looks alike. For the safety of your animals, only use zeolites that are packaged in ZEOvit bags. ....

jkhchris · 04/08/2008, 11:37 AM

Thanks for the info so far. Is there anyone out there that is currently mixing Zeo and Fauna Marin products?
Thanks, Chris

reef_doug · 04/08/2008, 05:04 PM

Chris... I've heard the ZEO ones are natural and the FM are synthetic. The ZEO ones may also have a carbon source coating, not sure though. The ones sold in major Pet stores marked for fresh water won't work.

I wouldn't see a need to change or experiment with the current price reduction on ZEO branded ones.

jkhchris · 04/09/2008, 02:41 PM

Thanks for the info guys. If I do decide to mix and match I will post my finding here. Not ready to do it yet but will see if I can get as much info as I can before I do.
Thanks again, Chris

ReefRockerLive · 04/09/2008, 02:46 PM

I am pretty sure both zeolites are natural and have similar effect. Not sure about the FM brand being synthetic through.

04/07/2008, 08:20 PM	#1
jkhchris Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver BC. Posts: 323	Ultra lithe and Zeovit I was wondering if the Ultra lithe Zeolithe and Zeovit Zeolite media are the same thing. Reason I ask is there is price difference here where I am. I run the Ultra lithe system and like it but find the Zeolithe is quite abit more expensive and really and trying to do things a little cheaper. Not sure if any has tested mixing these products with one or the other. Thanks, Chris

04/08/2008, 08:49 AM	#3
PSam Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,036	I'm not sure if the zeolites are the same in the zeo / fm systems. They look similar, but there are over 100 synthetic zeolites and something like 50 natural ones. Personally, I'd buy the one made for the system you're running. __________________ ..no vemos las cosas como son las vemos como somos nosotros...

04/08/2008, 08:56 AM	#4
Bebo77 Premium Nonpaying Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lost Posts: 14,377	they may not be exactly the same... but they do the same thing... __________________ Gabriel Current Tank Info: 300 Gal Envision Tank(98Lx30Wx26T) 120 Gal SoCalCreations Sump, Deltec TC2560, 2 LumenarcsMini 1 Reg on a light mover W Radiums 250& 400, Gallaxy ballasts, Red Dragon 10m3 return W/ 2 WavySeas, 2 6155 Tunze streams

04/08/2008, 09:49 AM	#5
PSam Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,036	The desired end effect is basically the same, but I'm not sure that the process to reach it is the same. zeo manual: At this point we would like to warn you not to use just any zeolite. There are several hundred different materials with this name. Every zeolite has been designed or modified for a specific use. Using a zeolite with the wrong properties could have detrimental effects on your tank and lead to the loss of all animals. Such total crashes have been reported to us in the past when the wrong zeolites were used. A visual selection or comparison is not possible since different zeolite material often looks alike. For the safety of your animals, only use zeolites that are packaged in ZEOvit bags. .... __________________ ..no vemos las cosas como son las vemos como somos nosotros...

04/08/2008, 05:04 PM	#7
reef_doug Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hesperia/Apple Valley Posts: 3,814	Chris... I've heard the ZEO ones are natural and the FM are synthetic. The ZEO ones may also have a carbon source coating, not sure though. The ones sold in major Pet stores marked for fresh water won't work. I wouldn't see a need to change or experiment with the current price reduction on ZEO branded ones. __________________ "If you have more than one tank in your livingroom, you might be a reefneck" Current Tank Info: 180r SoCal Creations, 75g SCC1M Sump, WM EcoBAK, NextReef SMR1, TropicMarin Salt, ACIII, 3x250w HQI Phoenix 14k, 2x140w Super Actinics, ATi BM250, Eheim 1262, Tunze 2x6100+7095, Tunze Osmolator, 6 stage RODI w/ Spectrapure MaxCap

04/08/2008, 06:13 AM	#2
sailfintang Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Balt. MD Posts: 788	We established a cheaper poorman Zeo method here in this thread. Please review. http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1348770

04/08/2008, 11:37 AM	#6
jkhchris Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver BC. Posts: 323	Thanks for the info so far. Is there anyone out there that is currently mixing Zeo and Fauna Marin products? Thanks, Chris

04/09/2008, 02:41 PM	#8
jkhchris Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver BC. Posts: 323	Thanks for the info guys. If I do decide to mix and match I will post my finding here. Not ready to do it yet but will see if I can get as much info as I can before I do. Thanks again, Chris

04/09/2008, 02:46 PM	#9
ReefRockerLive GHL Mitras LX7 Club Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT Posts: 2,454 Blog Entries: 1	I am pretty sure both zeolites are natural and have similar effect. Not sure about the FM brand being synthetic through. __________________ -ReefRockerLive Current Tank Info: Rimless 67g \| GHL Profilux 3.1T eX \| 2x GHL Doser 2 dosers \| 2xGHL Mitras LX7 LED \| Abyzz a100 \| Bubble King DC 150 \| 2x Vortech MP40w QD \| Fauna Marin Zeomatic 2.2ltr \| Fauna Marin Zeolight System \| Fauna Marin Balling Light Method