Electrocuting Mojanos

Paul B · 03/04/2010, 03:12 PM

I have been working on this for a long time and I saw it on another forum so I decided to complete the thing.
So far it seems to work great and after two days I still don't see the mojanoes I zapped.
I use 24 Volts DC in series with a rear light bulb from a car.
But if I had to recommend this to anyone, I would say to use a 24 volt battery so there is absolutely no chance of any mistakes or shocks.
No, a battery of that size will not hurt you and it should have the power to zap some mojanos (although I have not tried it with a battery)
If I find a battery, I will try it that way.
I just stick the prongs of this into a mojano, (or your neighbor, yours pouse,
or your boss)
Actually it will not shock them in the least.
And the thing bubbles as it produces a little oxygen and hydrogen gas.
No, not enough to blow up your house or anything else.
The anemone immediately shrinks and turns kind of slimy looking.
I am curious to see if they return (and t ry to zap me)

Also, "No" it will not shock your corals, fish, you or anything else.
My hermit crab was actualy standing on a mojano as I zapped it and I think he kind of enjoyed it as he went and had a cigarette afterwards.

Randy Holmes-Farley · 03/04/2010, 03:21 PM

Are you doing this in the reef tank?

I'd be concerned that you could be releasing a lot of copper from one of the electrodes due to the current flow

For example:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...07872715708e37

Skeptic_07 · 03/04/2010, 03:26 PM

give your mojanos the chair!

Paul B · 03/04/2010, 03:35 PM

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Are you doing this in the reef tank?

Randy, of course, my reef is a test bed. The electrododes in this case with the prototype are tinned copper. I tinned them myself so even the cut ends are tinned. The finished product uses stainless steel pins.
This unit is just a test and the tinned 3/16" long AWG#24 wire should pose no threat in the 30 seconds I tried it.
But you are correct, copper should not be used.

Randy Holmes-Farley · 03/05/2010, 05:45 AM

OK, have fun.

stormrider27 · 03/05/2010, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul B

My hermit crab was actualy standing on a mojano as I zapped it and I think he kind of enjoyed it as he went and had a cigarette afterwards.

Thank you for starting my morning off with a good chuckle!

The_Codfather · 03/05/2010, 06:46 AM

I find this thread shocking

tibob32 · 03/05/2010, 06:54 AM

Aside from the bad puns

this thread looks very interesting, I'm looking forward to seeing the results

Whisperer · 03/05/2010, 06:58 AM

I would guess that the pest will even return with a vengeance. Any little surviving piece that is left after electrocution will live. Let us know what happens. Good luck, it's a blast to see them fried.

Paul B · 03/05/2010, 09:03 AM

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OK, have fun.

Randy, what exactly are the gasses coming from the + and - electrodes? I know one is oxygen, at least I think it is or is one hydrogen (as I suspect) or chlorine?
I will experiment with sticking just one electrode in the anemone as it may not be the shock but the gas generated from the current that is killing the animal.

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Thank you for starting my morning off with a good chuckle!

Your welcome, it is much better to be you than one of my mojanos.
They are calling today, "Black Friday"

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I find this thread shocking

I was an electrician for 40 years, most things I do are shocking

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this thread looks very interesting, I'm looking forward to seeing the results

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I would guess that the pest will even return with a vengeance. Any little surviving piece that is left after electrocution will live. Let us know what happens.

Out of the 20 or so I zapped, about half seem to be completely gone, the rest I see a tentacle or two which may mean I didn't zap them long enough or use enough current.
I am running out of mojanos to test but I want to try different voltages, currents and durations.
I am feeding the remaining ones to get them nice and healthy so I can ruin their day.
Someone has to do it.

username in use · 03/05/2010, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul B

I am feeding the remaining ones to get them nice and healthy so I can ruin their day.
Someone has to do it.

Thats straight up cold blooded. But you're right, someone does have to do it.

ChadTheSpike · 03/05/2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul B

I am feeding the remaining ones to get them nice and healthy so I can ruin their day.
Someone has to do it.

Anyone else getting images of Paul as the witch in Hansel and Grettle?

Paul B · 03/05/2010, 10:08 AM

I would use Napalm but it also makes a mess

jbird69 · 03/05/2010, 01:44 PM

Ive been using aiptasia control by blue life. I have never had a majano come back after a single dose with it.

Not nearly as fun, but very effective.

Paul B · 03/05/2010, 02:03 PM

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Ive been using aiptasia control by blue life. I have never had a majano come back after a single dose with it.

Not nearly as fun, but very effective.

Exactly, and this is all about fun.

The finished tool uses sewing needles encased in shrink tubeing to keep the copper out of te tank. The eye of the needle allows the wire to be inserted through to make a solid connection.
I have found that a little more current makes quick work of the job. When the tip is inserted into the mojano, it begins to bubble profusely with the anemone disentigrating and floating away with the bubbles in a white sticky mess.
I don't know how much amperage I am using but the next time I try it I will put an amp meter in series with it for a test.

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username in use · 03/05/2010, 02:30 PM

That thing looks mean.

greggnyce · 03/05/2010, 02:33 PM

Crank it up to 14.5 jiggawatts!

jenglish · 03/05/2010, 02:34 PM

I have taken rocks out and put a blow torch to aptasia but the ability to kill w/o removing or the mess of kalk paste is intriguing.

Skeptic_07 · 03/05/2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jenglish

I have taken rocks out and put a blow torch to aptasia but the ability to kill w/o removing or the mess of kalk paste is intriguing.

i remember that thread.

paul, what is that clear tube? are you using anything special to keep water out of the tube?

Paul B · 03/05/2010, 02:48 PM

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That thing looks mean.

I have not tried it on myself but if anyone wants to volunteer....

IslandCrow · 03/05/2010, 02:57 PM

Paul, are we talking about a 24v automotive battery, or some other type of battery? It's probably pretty dangerous to get me playing with electricity, but this sounds like too much fun. Do you see similar applications with aiptasia. . .or perhaps with misbehaving maroon clownfish?

username in use · 03/05/2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by greggnyce

Crank it up to 14.5 jiggawatts!

I wouldn't dare go past 1.21 gigawatts. Who knows where you'll end up.

returnofsid · 03/05/2010, 03:03 PM

Paul, you're going to create a FrakenJano!!

Paul B · 03/05/2010, 03:20 PM

Island I am using a large battery charger that I built. I use it in series with a small auto light bulb to severly limit the current. I will test how much current I am using and post it. A car battery is only 12 volts and is too low, also if you short out the leads of a car battery in your tank, you will probably blow up the tank.
But the mojanos will be eliminated. (along with your marriage)

ritter6788 · 03/05/2010, 03:29 PM

Apply for a patent now

03/04/2010, 03:12 PM	#1
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	Electrocuting Mojanos I have been working on this for a long time and I saw it on another forum so I decided to complete the thing. So far it seems to work great and after two days I still don't see the mojanoes I zapped. I use 24 Volts DC in series with a rear light bulb from a car. But if I had to recommend this to anyone, I would say to use a 24 volt battery so there is absolutely no chance of any mistakes or shocks. No, a battery of that size will not hurt you and it should have the power to zap some mojanos (although I have not tried it with a battery) If I find a battery, I will try it that way. I just stick the prongs of this into a mojano, (or your neighbor, yours pouse, or your boss) Actually it will not shock them in the least. And the thing bubbles as it produces a little oxygen and hydrogen gas. No, not enough to blow up your house or anything else. The anemone immediately shrinks and turns kind of slimy looking. I am curious to see if they return (and t ry to zap me) Also, "No" it will not shock your corals, fish, you or anything else. My hermit crab was actualy standing on a mojano as I zapped it and I think he kind of enjoyed it as he went and had a cigarette afterwards. __________________ I used to get shocked when I put my hand in my tank. Then the electric eel went dead. Current Tank Info: 100 gal reef set up in 1971

03/05/2010, 05:45 AM	#5
Randy Holmes-Farley Reef Chemist Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Arlington, Massachusetts Posts: 86,233	OK, have fun. __________________ Randy Holmes-Farley Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef

03/05/2010, 06:58 AM	#9
Whisperer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Punta Gorda, FL Posts: 4,020	I would guess that the pest will even return with a vengeance. Any little surviving piece that is left after electrocution will live. Let us know what happens. Good luck, it's a blast to see them fried. __________________ The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten. --------- No one is born with intellect and age guarantees wisdom to no one. Current Tank Info: 120G reef, 30G sump, 10G QT tank

03/05/2010, 10:08 AM	#13
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	I would use Napalm but it also makes a mess __________________ I used to get shocked when I put my hand in my tank. Then the electric eel went dead. Current Tank Info: 100 gal reef set up in 1971

03/05/2010, 01:44 PM	#14
jbird69 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The beautiful State of Jefferson Posts: 2,751	Ive been using aiptasia control by blue life. I have never had a majano come back after a single dose with it. Not nearly as fun, but very effective. __________________ Broke Back Mountain is not a movie, its the pile of dead ninjas in Chuck Norris' back yard

03/04/2010, 03:21 PM	#2
Randy Holmes-Farley Reef Chemist Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Arlington, Massachusetts Posts: 86,233	Are you doing this in the reef tank? I'd be concerned that you could be releasing a lot of copper from one of the electrodes due to the current flow For example: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...07872715708e37 __________________ Randy Holmes-Farley Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef

03/04/2010, 03:26 PM	#3
Skeptic_07 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: lawn guy land Posts: 1,418	give your mojanos the chair!

03/05/2010, 06:46 AM	#7
The_Codfather Have frag will travel Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tuckerton, NJ Posts: 541	I find this thread shocking

03/05/2010, 06:54 AM	#8
tibob32 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 550	Aside from the bad puns this thread looks very interesting, I'm looking forward to seeing the results

03/05/2010, 02:30 PM	#16
username in use Sciencing Daily Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,560	That thing looks mean. __________________ Joshua "With fronds like these, who needs anemones?" - Albert Einstein Current Tank Info: multiple nano's sprinkled around the house

03/05/2010, 02:33 PM	#17
greggnyce Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bellport, New York Posts: 1,782	Crank it up to 14.5 jiggawatts! __________________ What you talkin about Mrs Lime. Current Tank Info: 120 gl oceanic tech, 30 gallon fuge, 40 gallon sump, Itech 200 skimmer, LED Lighting . Mixed reef.

03/05/2010, 02:34 PM	#18
jenglish Marquis de Carabas Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,523	I have taken rocks out and put a blow torch to aptasia but the ability to kill w/o removing or the mess of kalk paste is intriguing. __________________ Jeremy Brown liquor never hurt anybody “Je n'ai pas besoin de cette hypothèse" Pierre-Simon Laplace I should want to cook him a simple meal, but I shouldn't want to cut into him, to tear the flesh, to wear the flesh, to be born unto new worlds where his flesh becomes my key. Current Tank Info: broken and dry

03/05/2010, 02:57 PM	#21
IslandCrow Reef Monkey Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rockledge, Fl Posts: 5,759	Paul, are we talking about a 24v automotive battery, or some other type of battery? It's probably pretty dangerous to get me playing with electricity, but this sounds like too much fun. Do you see similar applications with aiptasia. . .or perhaps with misbehaving maroon clownfish? __________________ All opinions in the above message should be taken with 35 ppt salt. -Mike C. Current Tank Info: I have a reef screen saver on my phone, does that count?

03/05/2010, 03:03 PM	#23
returnofsid Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 3,852	Paul, you're going to create a FrakenJano!!

03/05/2010, 03:20 PM	#24
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	Island I am using a large battery charger that I built. I use it in series with a small auto light bulb to severly limit the current. I will test how much current I am using and post it. A car battery is only 12 volts and is too low, also if you short out the leads of a car battery in your tank, you will probably blow up the tank. But the mojanos will be eliminated. (along with your marriage) __________________ I used to get shocked when I put my hand in my tank. Then the electric eel went dead. Current Tank Info: 100 gal reef set up in 1971

03/05/2010, 03:29 PM	#25
ritter6788 Say no to clove polyps Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Marshall, TX Posts: 1,374	Apply for a patent now