New ORA coral - Ice Tortuosa

[Dejavu]

Originally Posted by ifbettas

looks just like cali tort...

+1

[cato]

Originally Posted by IFbettas

My cali tort looks just like this coral...

Ditto ^^^

[lperry77]

Originally Posted by obiwanthegoby

I think it comes down to this... a tort is a tort. I have a blue tort that looks just like that. It used to be completely purple with Blue tips, Now it is greenish blue with blue coralites. Polyps have always been a dark blue, but this thing has changed colors on me completely. You really have to think about how a coral color is generated. Its done by the symbiotic algae, there are several clads of algae inside each coral and the ones that are recieving the best spectrum of light proliferate. The may present a blue purple color. But when the right situation presents itself that clad may die off in favor of another and eventually the color changes with the new clad. I have seen this happen with a couple of my acros over the years and especially from moving from the 120 gallon tank to the new tank. I think you get good coral and time tested at that from ORA, but dont always expect your oregon tort not to end up looking like an Ice blue over time or your cali to end up looking like an oregon,... theyre all tortsI do believe color major color morphs exist within species and even individual specimens can fluctuate over time.

Obi

if it turns in to an oregon let me know .....no ones really sure what the oregon really is

[lperry77]

Originally Posted by Dejavu

+1

lets see some pics ! never have i seen a "cali/ORA" tort look lie this one!

[Dejavu]

Originally Posted by lperry77

lets see some pics ! never have i seen a "cali/ORA" tort look lie this one!

Given that tank conditions are different and that if this is an ORA pic, it would have been taken under natural light vs 20K/12K lighting. IMO they look to close. There are many other nice frags that I would rather have in the $60-$80 range.

[60Cubed]

Originally Posted by SDguy

Strange. Other than the german green with purple polyps acro, I have never had an ORA coral NOT hold color. And they live through everything.

Huge fan here

So ur red planet still got that deep green base? The borealis still a deep purple/blue? And the blue stag that never stayed blue? Not to argue but I have bought a crapload of frags from RC members that have held truer color than the ORA. I never mentioned hardiness. Now everything that we are seeing seems to look familiar, especially when we get it under a 20k bulb. If ur satisfied then great. Lately they just have left a lot to be desired in my book is all.

[SDguy]

Originally Posted by 60Cubed

So ur red planet still got that deep green base? The borealis still a deep purple/blue? And the blue stag that never stayed blue? Not to argue but I have bought a crapload of frags from RC members that have held truer color than the ORA. I never mentioned hardiness. Now everything that we are seeing seems to look familiar, especially when we get it under a 20k bulb. If ur satisfied then great. Lately they just have left a lot to be desired in my book is all.

To your questions: Yes, and yes, and I don't own one.

You really didn't have to expand. I didn't say you mentioned hardiness... I did. I get it, you are not satisfied with your ORA corals. That's fine, I was merely stating a differing opinion, not trying to convince you to change yours

[mcliffy2]

Great article here with comments from Dustin himself on what distinguishes the Ice Tort:

http://glassbox-design.com/2009/ora-ice-tortuosa/

[Toadally]

Originally Posted by obiwanthegoby

i think it comes down to this... A tort is a tort. I have a blue tort that looks just like that. It used to be completely purple with blue tips, now it is greenish blue with blue coralites. Polyps have always been a dark blue, but this thing has changed colors on me completely. You really have to think about how a coral color is generated. Its done by the symbiotic algae, there are several clads of algae inside each coral and the ones that are recieving the best spectrum of light proliferate. The may present a blue purple color. But when the right situation presents itself that clad may die off in favor of another and eventually the color changes with the new clad. I have seen this happen with a couple of my acros over the years and especially from moving from the 120 gallon tank to the new tank. I think you get good coral and time tested at that from ora, but dont always expect your oregon tort not to end up looking like an ice blue over time or your cali to end up looking like an oregon,... Theyre all tortsi do believe color major color morphs exist within species and even individual specimens can fluctuate over time.

Obi

+1

[poidog81]

Originally Posted by Dejavu

What is this???? Is this the new ORA?

[scrapz]

Originally Posted by poidog81

What is this???? Is this the new ORA?

i take it back, the color scheme is nothing like a cali tort.

Another must have for my tank!

[Urchinhead]

Sigh... And we're off to the races! I would like to see this in others tanks before I rush out for one... Spawning aside.

[lperry77]

Originally Posted by mcliffy2

Great article here with comments from Dustin himself on what distinguishes the Ice Tort:

http://glassbox-design.com/2009/ora-ice-tortuosa/

thanks for the link

i still dont see any resemblance to the cali tort
especially with the pic posted as what it may look like under 20K lighting

http://glassbox-design.com/wp-conten...0K-420x407.jpg

[lperry77]

Originally Posted by Dejavu

Given that tank conditions are different and that if this is an ORA pic, it would have been taken under natural light vs 20K/12K lighting. IMO they look to close. There are many other nice frags that I would rather have in the $60-$80 range.

what coral is the second one in your pic?

[Dejavu]

The second pic is the ORA blue tort. This pic was taken a few months after I got it.



Here is a pic about a year or lessof growth:
It the same coral. The ORA blue tort has alot of green in it when frist fraged and loses it once it grows out.

[Dejavu]

Originally Posted by mcliffy2

Great article here with comments from Dustin himself on what distinguishes the Ice Tort:

http://glassbox-design.com/2009/ora-ice-tortuosa/

Thanks for the link. If I hadn't read it and was just look in a store at the Ice tort, I would have thought it was the same a the cali. I might be wrong but ORA release the cali before the original Oregon Tort.

[danreefman]

Originally Posted by krucial

Very nice. I just hope it is a bit faster grower than the oregon.
Thanks for sharing.

anything seems to grow fast when the conditions are right. My oregon and cali tort grow really fast

[poidog81]

Looks like it's hitting vendors

[wonrib00]

What kind of lighting is that under, do you know?

[poidog81]

Don't know. But assuming 20k since it's an online vendor.

[rigleautomotive]

Originally Posted by SDguy

Strange. Other than the german green with purple polyps acro, I have never had an ORA coral NOT hold color. And they live through everything.

Huge fan here

me too,i will second that.My ORA stuff looks great and quite similar to the original frag

[mbl]

very nice

[oddballs]

Out of the"torts" that we have ORA/Cali,Becker,Oregon,Blue monster this one looks like the becker tort more than any of the others imo.I know that lighting can make corals vary from tank to tank but I have never seen the ora/cali look anything like this new one? I have never had trouble with ora corals keeping there true colors either?

[rigleautomotive]

Originally Posted by oddballs

Out of the"torts" that we have ORA/Cali,Becker,Oregon,Blue monster this one looks like the becker tort more than any of the others imo.I know that lighting can make corals vary from tank to tank but I have never seen the ora/cali look anything like this new one? I have never had trouble with ora corals keeping there true colors either?

Thats good to know,i like the becker and do not have it so i may have to get me one LOL

[poidog81]

There's one on divers den tonight. The color is washed out by too much blue light.