Disappointed - Page 2

mchud · 04/22/2012, 04:38 PM

Wow this thread is still going, i started it a year ago. I have not looked at it for a long time. I will be stopping in again from my trip to Nyc. Evan after last years visit it still is worth the stop.

hottuna · 05/19/2012, 07:00 AM

This store should be re-named "HOUSE OF FINANCE "

jaa1456 · 10/22/2012, 06:17 PM

I have been twice, and they are way overpriced. Even their store across the street with the tanks. I can buy a Marineland 300dd tank anywhere, so why pay 1500 more for it in their shop? Doesn't make sense to me. And Allie you are correct, they get their fish and corals from the same wholesalers other shops use. They don't have divers just for their store that send livestock directly to HOF. By the way I'm pretty sure there are more than 2 Bentley dealers on the East Coast.

humaguy · 10/22/2012, 07:01 PM

they do use divers but they also have connections at the wholesalers...getting a juvi personatus, cinereus, or dr seuss fish is no easy feat...their costs might be reflective of their location which has higher rents than many other locations...but you cannot argue over the fish they bring in...their splash 2012 weekend had killer speakers like copps, fenner, and jake adams...pretty awesome for a lfs...

jaa1456 · 10/22/2012, 08:03 PM

I have seen other lfs's bring in those fish and many others. Absolutely Fish in NJ for instance always has something exotic and hard to find. The Elos studio in NJ as well brings in high dollar fish as well. But I guess if you are going to pay all those people to speak in your shop you have to charge more money for your stock. It still bothers me though that on one of my trips to HOF they were telling me a hippo tang was a yellow tailed damsel.

humaguy · 10/22/2012, 08:24 PM

nobody has had a tiny personatus in a long, long time, if ever at that size...cinereus, I think there are 4-5 on the continent...dr seuss....pia, dd and hof...af does get some nice fish but can also be expensive...not sure about the misidentifcation...elos just opened- and has not competed with this type of rarity...

humaguy · 10/22/2012, 08:28 PM

imo, hard-to-find and super-rare are very different...Rhinecanthus Lunula is hard-to-find...Rhinecanthus Cinereus is super-rare...

jaa1456 · 10/22/2012, 09:15 PM

I don't think HOF had any of the personatus angels. Maybe one if that. The Dr suess fish should be a fairly cheap fish. I have never understood why that fish is so expensive. It is not a rare fish by any means and are an easier fish to collect. As for the triggers, I know where a lunula is sitting for sale right now and it is not at any of the before mentioned Lfs's. I believe Absolutely Fish just had your Cinereus a few weeks ago. As for Elos they have been bringing in some high priced items. They had a Dr.Seuss as well as a Gem Tang recently. I have heard a few other rarities have come in, but I haven't seen them. Earli wrasse and a Clarion. Although when Clarions are collected I do see them in Absolutely Fish every year.

humaguy · 10/23/2012, 05:01 AM

Hof had a juvi personatus 1 year ago...I saw it a few times and have pics of it.. many others in here also saw it...search for the thread, I am pretty sure I started one...
That was the only one I know of to make it here is a long, long time...it was sold before it even made it to the store...
They also brought in the first Cinereus and displayed it one year ago at Splash 2011...dd finally got theirs in last May, which I have...Michael got one in around June, which happyjack has...think Michael got one other after that, Canada got a couple, and there are a few more around...fish from Mauritius are coming in more frequently now so perhaps we will start seeing them more often...
As far as triggers go, a Lunula is one of the harder to find, especially smaller specimens...dd for example might offer 1, maybe 2 a year...Michael has a large one,10 inches, now that has been there for a while...much easier to obtain than a Cinereus...
Earli wrasse pop up very often pia has them frequently...gem tangs pop up a few times a year or more...
Clarions are not collected every year...there was a batch out last spring...Michael at nya just sold his remaining one with the odd tail yesterday..
Not sure what you mean by the Dr Seuss fish should be a fairly cheap fish...are you aware of the extreme depth (you need closed-circuit/rebreathers) they are caught at and the decompression issues associated with collecting a fish from there? af was one of the first to import this fish in 06...

jaa1456 · 10/23/2012, 08:03 PM

Do you know they catch the Dr.Suess fish and eat them regularly for food? It gets fairly large and I guess that part is not well known seeing how few make it to the trade. But they are common just like Gem Tangs are and Clarions are. The collection regulations are what drive up the prices of these fish. South Africa is loaded with Gems but you can't collect them, Mauritius sends them out but it is a pia to get them shipped out of there. Clarions are everywhere off of Mexico as well, I have dove with the and there are plenty of them. I know about the oar tail from Nyaquatic as well. I bought some of the first fish he ever brought in.

04/22/2012, 04:38 PM	#26
mchud Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: gill, ma Posts: 370	Wow this thread is still going, i started it a year ago. I have not looked at it for a long time. I will be stopping in again from my trip to Nyc. Evan after last years visit it still is worth the stop. __________________ Will miss you Wild Bill RIP Tessa Best friend of 14 years Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef 55 gallon reef and 12000 gal koi pond

05/19/2012, 07:00 AM	#27
hottuna Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,037	This store should be re-named "HOUSE OF FINANCE " __________________ HotTuna

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10/22/2012, 06:17 PM	#28
jaa1456 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 832	I have been twice, and they are way overpriced. Even their store across the street with the tanks. I can buy a Marineland 300dd tank anywhere, so why pay 1500 more for it in their shop? Doesn't make sense to me. And Allie you are correct, they get their fish and corals from the same wholesalers other shops use. They don't have divers just for their store that send livestock directly to HOF. By the way I'm pretty sure there are more than 2 Bentley dealers on the East Coast.

10/22/2012, 07:01 PM	#29
humaguy Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Western Ct, NYC Posts: 2,894	they do use divers but they also have connections at the wholesalers...getting a juvi personatus, cinereus, or dr seuss fish is no easy feat...their costs might be reflective of their location which has higher rents than many other locations...but you cannot argue over the fish they bring in...their splash 2012 weekend had killer speakers like copps, fenner, and jake adams...pretty awesome for a lfs...

10/22/2012, 08:03 PM	#30
jaa1456 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 832	I have seen other lfs's bring in those fish and many others. Absolutely Fish in NJ for instance always has something exotic and hard to find. The Elos studio in NJ as well brings in high dollar fish as well. But I guess if you are going to pay all those people to speak in your shop you have to charge more money for your stock. It still bothers me though that on one of my trips to HOF they were telling me a hippo tang was a yellow tailed damsel.

10/22/2012, 08:24 PM	#31
humaguy Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Western Ct, NYC Posts: 2,894	nobody has had a tiny personatus in a long, long time, if ever at that size...cinereus, I think there are 4-5 on the continent...dr seuss....pia, dd and hof...af does get some nice fish but can also be expensive...not sure about the misidentifcation...elos just opened- and has not competed with this type of rarity...

10/22/2012, 08:28 PM	#32
humaguy Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Western Ct, NYC Posts: 2,894	imo, hard-to-find and super-rare are very different...Rhinecanthus Lunula is hard-to-find...Rhinecanthus Cinereus is super-rare...

10/22/2012, 09:15 PM	#33
jaa1456 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 832	I don't think HOF had any of the personatus angels. Maybe one if that. The Dr suess fish should be a fairly cheap fish. I have never understood why that fish is so expensive. It is not a rare fish by any means and are an easier fish to collect. As for the triggers, I know where a lunula is sitting for sale right now and it is not at any of the before mentioned Lfs's. I believe Absolutely Fish just had your Cinereus a few weeks ago. As for Elos they have been bringing in some high priced items. They had a Dr.Seuss as well as a Gem Tang recently. I have heard a few other rarities have come in, but I haven't seen them. Earli wrasse and a Clarion. Although when Clarions are collected I do see them in Absolutely Fish every year.

10/23/2012, 05:01 AM	#34
humaguy Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Western Ct, NYC Posts: 2,894	Hof had a juvi personatus 1 year ago...I saw it a few times and have pics of it.. many others in here also saw it...search for the thread, I am pretty sure I started one... That was the only one I know of to make it here is a long, long time...it was sold before it even made it to the store... They also brought in the first Cinereus and displayed it one year ago at Splash 2011...dd finally got theirs in last May, which I have...Michael got one in around June, which happyjack has...think Michael got one other after that, Canada got a couple, and there are a few more around...fish from Mauritius are coming in more frequently now so perhaps we will start seeing them more often... As far as triggers go, a Lunula is one of the harder to find, especially smaller specimens...dd for example might offer 1, maybe 2 a year...Michael has a large one,10 inches, now that has been there for a while...much easier to obtain than a Cinereus... Earli wrasse pop up very often pia has them frequently...gem tangs pop up a few times a year or more... Clarions are not collected every year...there was a batch out last spring...Michael at nya just sold his remaining one with the odd tail yesterday.. Not sure what you mean by the Dr Seuss fish should be a fairly cheap fish...are you aware of the extreme depth (you need closed-circuit/rebreathers) they are caught at and the decompression issues associated with collecting a fish from there? af was one of the first to import this fish in 06...

10/23/2012, 08:03 PM	#35
jaa1456 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 832	Do you know they catch the Dr.Suess fish and eat them regularly for food? It gets fairly large and I guess that part is not well known seeing how few make it to the trade. But they are common just like Gem Tangs are and Clarions are. The collection regulations are what drive up the prices of these fish. South Africa is loaded with Gems but you can't collect them, Mauritius sends them out but it is a pia to get them shipped out of there. Clarions are everywhere off of Mexico as well, I have dove with the and there are plenty of them. I know about the oar tail from Nyaquatic as well. I bought some of the first fish he ever brought in.