QT Regimen

Dustin1300 · 04/20/2012, 08:19 AM

All,

I'm just about to start buying my first set of coral at frag swap next weekend. In planning my 1000+ gallon tank I've been trying to prepare for the worst and do my best at eradicating pests/disease before going into main system. I've built a 15"X15"X15" cube I'll use for Frag QT/dipping and have a 75 gallon for Fish QTing. That being said, I've been doing some looking around for recommendations on QTing frags and looking for what everyone elses regimen is?

I've seen a lot of people sware by Bayer so considering using it but what else should I dip? How long should I QT/observe in the frag QT system? I'm planning on keeping a mixed reef so I'll have softies, zoanthds, LPS, SPS so I need to try to figure out treatment for all of them. Have a feeling I'm going to be doing a ton of reading tonight so I can run to Premium Aquatics tomorrow or order online ASAP.

Frag QT tank (Should hold 20-25 frags):

18 Watt Par38 LED lighting:

dahenley · 04/20/2012, 10:14 AM

Can you explain "Bayer"

I haven't heard of this!

QT should be around 4 weeks give or take. And its easier to QT the same corals at the same time. (Lps, Sps, softies)
This is because those will require different dips and or lengths. Plus you won't have to worry about chemical warfare at that time.

Check Sps for red bugs, and aefw. Montis for nudies
Check zoas for spiders and nudies.
Lps I'm not 100% familiar with.
My softies just get an iodine dip.

All corals get a flat worm/plinaria dip. Because they can be in the rocks or plugs of anything.

And the reason for the long QT is because eggs are never effected by dips. So you have to wait for the cycle, hatch, rekill and make sure those didn't lay more eggs...

Dustin1300 · 04/20/2012, 10:31 AM

Seems I failed to subscribe to my own thread

Take a look at the following article regarding Bayer. Kind of crazy but everyone seems to be having good success with it. Looking on other forums/Google it seems to be widespread. I actually ask what coral dips my local vendor recommended and was surprised to see the response of not buying one of the coral dips they had in stock.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...ighlight=bayer

dahenley · 04/20/2012, 10:52 AM

Sorry... I was thinking aspirin.... haha.

I remember a thread here that was using it for killing red bugs and stuff, but haven't researched it for anything past that....

Dustin1300 · 04/20/2012, 06:32 PM

dahenley, thanks for the thoughts/opinions. Anyone else on other experiences they have and recommendations? I picked up the insecticide tonight and at $12.97, this will make nearly 77 gallons.

Dustin1300 · 04/24/2012, 06:12 PM

No one else dips coral? I'm willing to purchase any dip, I'm just looking to use the most effective measures and hoping to drop by Premium Aquatics ~Thursday!

James404 · 04/24/2012, 08:18 PM

I personally have used revive for years and very happy. It won't stop red bugs like bayer but it will kill the majority of pests including AEFW (not the eggs). I usually double dose it on all corals except some acropora such as echinata and turoki.

Hagisan · 04/24/2012, 10:09 PM

hth

Quote:

Cherrycorals uses (see homepage acropora):

Quote:
All of our Acropora are quarantined for a minimum of 2 weeks before sale. We cut off any rock or dead coral skeleton and dip multiple times in a powerful cocktail of Levamisole, Interceptor, and FM Ultra Pest Control.

Dustin1300 · 04/25/2012, 08:34 AM

Thanks for all the input and it's greatly appreciated. I've just not came across a lot of sites with a good amount of information/content on the subject and it's more of a challenge to figure out what I want to do. Melev's reef had a few good reads and I've found a few other places but seems like it's everyone's deep dark secret. If one fragger dips and kills the pest, they may in turn save 1000 reefers from an infestation so I'm not only doing it for my tank, but others!

Here's regimen I've came up with. I put order in with Premium Aquatics for the stuff and will likely run over there on lunch hour today/tomorrow to get the goods.

Before adding to Coral Frag QT:

- Dip in Bayer mixture, rinse with SW, place in QT
- After everything has opened up and seems to be healthy I'll treat Frag QT as a whole with Flatworm Exit
- Week 2 - Revive Dip
- Week 3 - Iodine Dip
- Week 4 - Another Revive Dip
- Week 5 - Before transferring to frag tank I'll do a last dip of Bayer and SW rinse before adding to frag tank

***I'll also be using a TLF Reactor filled with Carbon to take any nasty stuff from the coral out of the water column. During flatworm Exit treatment I'll be sure to aerate water well and then start carbon filtering.

Suggestions based on that? I know I'm OCD/Anal Retentive

dahenley · 04/25/2012, 03:07 PM

Keep a turkey Baxter and toothbrush on hand for scrubbing and cleaning.

Also, a cheap magnifying glass from harbor freight is a great tool as well!

dahenley · 04/25/2012, 08:22 PM

What iodine dip are you going to use?
i normally use "seachem reef dip"
but i also have lugols..... (i got this because i was out of the other, and because i can dose it in my tank.
just curious as to what your planning on using?

Dustin1300 · 04/26/2012, 06:48 AM

I've got the turkey baster...Need to pick up some tooth brushes I guess.

As far as dip, I'm using the Kent Lugols dip. Going to Premium Aquatics on lunch hour (Dangerous thing for my marriage to stop at PA on lunch hour)!
http://premiumaquatics.com/store/mer...Category_Code=

Thanks to meth heads we can only buy 1 oz sizes.........

04/20/2012, 08:19 AM	#1
Dustin1300 Reefaholic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Carmel, IN Posts: 4,814	QT Regimen All, I'm just about to start buying my first set of coral at frag swap next weekend. In planning my 1000+ gallon tank I've been trying to prepare for the worst and do my best at eradicating pests/disease before going into main system. I've built a 15"X15"X15" cube I'll use for Frag QT/dipping and have a 75 gallon for Fish QTing. That being said, I've been doing some looking around for recommendations on QTing frags and looking for what everyone elses regimen is? I've seen a lot of people sware by Bayer so considering using it but what else should I dip? How long should I QT/observe in the frag QT system? I'm planning on keeping a mixed reef so I'll have softies, zoanthds, LPS, SPS so I need to try to figure out treatment for all of them. Have a feeling I'm going to be doing a ton of reading tonight so I can run to Premium Aquatics tomorrow or order online ASAP. Frag QT tank (Should hold 20-25 frags): 18 Watt Par38 LED lighting: __________________ INDMAS President Into new house and system build in progress! Go to my user profile and home page if you want to follow along on the build. Current Tank Info: Tank in PROGRESS: 600 Gallon DT (96X48X30), 140 Gallon Frag/Grow Out Tank, 125 Gallon Sump, and 90 Gallon Refugium (Total system volume pushing 1000+ gallons)

04/20/2012, 10:14 AM	#2
dahenley Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lubbock, Tx Posts: 3,040	Can you explain "Bayer" I haven't heard of this! QT should be around 4 weeks give or take. And its easier to QT the same corals at the same time. (Lps, Sps, softies) This is because those will require different dips and or lengths. Plus you won't have to worry about chemical warfare at that time. Check Sps for red bugs, and aefw. Montis for nudies Check zoas for spiders and nudies. Lps I'm not 100% familiar with. My softies just get an iodine dip. All corals get a flat worm/plinaria dip. Because they can be in the rocks or plugs of anything. And the reason for the long QT is because eggs are never effected by dips. So you have to wait for the cycle, hatch, rekill and make sure those didn't lay more eggs... __________________ Its not just my tank, its OUR tank!!! :-) 240display, reef in progress Current Tank Info: 240 display, a few frags here and there. lots of fish, and lots of watching. (230 big screen getting re-sealed and going to add to the gallonage) My wife has no clue how addicted i really am.....

04/20/2012, 10:31 AM	#3
Dustin1300 Reefaholic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Carmel, IN Posts: 4,814	Seems I failed to subscribe to my own thread Take a look at the following article regarding Bayer. Kind of crazy but everyone seems to be having good success with it. Looking on other forums/Google it seems to be widespread. I actually ask what coral dips my local vendor recommended and was surprised to see the response of not buying one of the coral dips they had in stock. http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...ighlight=bayer __________________ INDMAS President Into new house and system build in progress! Go to my user profile and home page if you want to follow along on the build. Current Tank Info: Tank in PROGRESS: 600 Gallon DT (96X48X30), 140 Gallon Frag/Grow Out Tank, 125 Gallon Sump, and 90 Gallon Refugium (Total system volume pushing 1000+ gallons)

04/20/2012, 10:52 AM	#4
dahenley Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lubbock, Tx Posts: 3,040	Sorry... I was thinking aspirin.... haha. I remember a thread here that was using it for killing red bugs and stuff, but haven't researched it for anything past that.... __________________ Its not just my tank, its OUR tank!!! :-) 240display, reef in progress Current Tank Info: 240 display, a few frags here and there. lots of fish, and lots of watching. (230 big screen getting re-sealed and going to add to the gallonage) My wife has no clue how addicted i really am.....

04/20/2012, 06:32 PM	#5
Dustin1300 Reefaholic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Carmel, IN Posts: 4,814	dahenley, thanks for the thoughts/opinions. Anyone else on other experiences they have and recommendations? I picked up the insecticide tonight and at $12.97, this will make nearly 77 gallons. __________________ INDMAS President Into new house and system build in progress! Go to my user profile and home page if you want to follow along on the build. Current Tank Info: Tank in PROGRESS: 600 Gallon DT (96X48X30), 140 Gallon Frag/Grow Out Tank, 125 Gallon Sump, and 90 Gallon Refugium (Total system volume pushing 1000+ gallons)

04/24/2012, 06:12 PM	#6
Dustin1300 Reefaholic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Carmel, IN Posts: 4,814	No one else dips coral? I'm willing to purchase any dip, I'm just looking to use the most effective measures and hoping to drop by Premium Aquatics ~Thursday! __________________ INDMAS President Into new house and system build in progress! Go to my user profile and home page if you want to follow along on the build. Current Tank Info: Tank in PROGRESS: 600 Gallon DT (96X48X30), 140 Gallon Frag/Grow Out Tank, 125 Gallon Sump, and 90 Gallon Refugium (Total system volume pushing 1000+ gallons)

04/24/2012, 08:18 PM	#7
James404 I <3 Acros Join Date: May 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,384	I personally have used revive for years and very happy. It won't stop red bugs like bayer but it will kill the majority of pests including AEFW (not the eggs). I usually double dose it on all corals except some acropora such as echinata and turoki. __________________ View my Homepage to see my 225g ReefSavvy Build! 225g Reef Savvy SPS Dominant 24g Rimless Nanocube

04/25/2012, 08:34 AM	#9
Dustin1300 Reefaholic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Carmel, IN Posts: 4,814	Thanks for all the input and it's greatly appreciated. I've just not came across a lot of sites with a good amount of information/content on the subject and it's more of a challenge to figure out what I want to do. Melev's reef had a few good reads and I've found a few other places but seems like it's everyone's deep dark secret. If one fragger dips and kills the pest, they may in turn save 1000 reefers from an infestation so I'm not only doing it for my tank, but others! Here's regimen I've came up with. I put order in with Premium Aquatics for the stuff and will likely run over there on lunch hour today/tomorrow to get the goods. Before adding to Coral Frag QT: - Dip in Bayer mixture, rinse with SW, place in QT - After everything has opened up and seems to be healthy I'll treat Frag QT as a whole with Flatworm Exit - Week 2 - Revive Dip - Week 3 - Iodine Dip - Week 4 - Another Revive Dip - Week 5 - Before transferring to frag tank I'll do a last dip of Bayer and SW rinse before adding to frag tank ***I'll also be using a TLF Reactor filled with Carbon to take any nasty stuff from the coral out of the water column. During flatworm Exit treatment I'll be sure to aerate water well and then start carbon filtering. Suggestions based on that? I know I'm OCD/Anal Retentive __________________ INDMAS President Into new house and system build in progress! Go to my user profile and home page if you want to follow along on the build. Current Tank Info: Tank in PROGRESS: 600 Gallon DT (96X48X30), 140 Gallon Frag/Grow Out Tank, 125 Gallon Sump, and 90 Gallon Refugium (Total system volume pushing 1000+ gallons)

04/25/2012, 03:07 PM	#10
dahenley Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lubbock, Tx Posts: 3,040	Keep a turkey Baxter and toothbrush on hand for scrubbing and cleaning. Also, a cheap magnifying glass from harbor freight is a great tool as well! __________________ Its not just my tank, its OUR tank!!! :-) 240display, reef in progress Current Tank Info: 240 display, a few frags here and there. lots of fish, and lots of watching. (230 big screen getting re-sealed and going to add to the gallonage) My wife has no clue how addicted i really am.....

04/25/2012, 08:22 PM	#11
dahenley Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lubbock, Tx Posts: 3,040	What iodine dip are you going to use? i normally use "seachem reef dip" but i also have lugols..... (i got this because i was out of the other, and because i can dose it in my tank. just curious as to what your planning on using? __________________ Its not just my tank, its OUR tank!!! :-) 240display, reef in progress Current Tank Info: 240 display, a few frags here and there. lots of fish, and lots of watching. (230 big screen getting re-sealed and going to add to the gallonage) My wife has no clue how addicted i really am.....

04/26/2012, 06:48 AM	#12
Dustin1300 Reefaholic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Carmel, IN Posts: 4,814	I've got the turkey baster...Need to pick up some tooth brushes I guess. As far as dip, I'm using the Kent Lugols dip. Going to Premium Aquatics on lunch hour (Dangerous thing for my marriage to stop at PA on lunch hour)! http://premiumaquatics.com/store/mer...Category_Code= Thanks to meth heads we can only buy 1 oz sizes......... __________________ INDMAS President Into new house and system build in progress! Go to my user profile and home page if you want to follow along on the build. Current Tank Info: Tank in PROGRESS: 600 Gallon DT (96X48X30), 140 Gallon Frag/Grow Out Tank, 125 Gallon Sump, and 90 Gallon Refugium (Total system volume pushing 1000+ gallons)