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Old 05/04/2012, 11:55 PM   #1
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Very first, one and only, reef tank build

Hello everyone....

Let me start by saying you guys are awesome....every last one of you....

With that outta the way, this is my first saltwater tank, hence the title of this thread....

I have chosen an aquarium....a Deep Blue Professional Rimless Edge 57, 36x18x20, with 1/2 inch thick, low-iron, glass and black silicone.

AND I have an equipment shopping list I hope you all could help me with:

1) Custom made stand 36" tall, oak, and black.
2) Triggersystems Sump Ruby 30S.
3) Super Reef Octopus XP1000SS Protein Skimmer.
4) Vortech MP40S (planning on using only one for this size tank, would have rather had two MP10S but 1/2 thick glass is probably going to cause
5) Ecotech Radion LED Light (planing on two pockets are hurting just thinking about it)....oh, and seems to have a very nice rack for these bad boys.

Here's the thing..... I want to do a deep sand bed with 4" of sugar grain sand....I just bought the sand today....I went with two, 20lb, bags of Nature's Ocean live aragonite sand....two, 20lb, bags of Nature's Ocean #0 Aragonite....and one, 20lb bag of Nature's Ocean #0 Samoa Pink (for a little bit of pink fleck).

The grain size of the sand is what I've been most concerned about lately. The above sand after close inspection and visually estimating the size range based on the manufacture's spec seems to range between 0.1mm and 0.75mm, with the majority probably being in the .3mm to .5mm range. I noticed at my LFS that the sand grain varied quite a bit with this brand from bag to bag and I tried to pick out the finer sand bags.

My concerns is the MP40 on my rimless, 20" tall, tank with a 4"bed will probably mean placing placing this powerhead at approximately 11" above sand level. Sooooo.....Monster Powerhead and fine sand for the DSB....I would really like some input on how to make this work and if anyone out there has fine sand with an MP40 at that height in their tank....please, please comment before I drop this money....

I am hoping that it will EVENTUALLY settle down, a LITTLE BIT of dunes is no prob....just not sand tornadoes from hell.

At this point I haven't purchased anything except the tank, sand, and R/O unit.

Many pictures and updates to come....I'm taking this slow and don't care if it takes the next six months to get this thing built RIGHT and really ready to take some corals....Not sure what I want to put in it yet, probably a mix.

I hope you vets will stick around and help a greenhorn out....

Oh and many thanks to the several threads of the Rimless 57 Builds going on right now in these forums.


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Old 05/05/2012, 12:19 AM   #2
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I have the same exact skimmer and almost identical sump (Crystal 30S). I'm avoiding the sugar fine sand and instead going with the Tropic Eden mini reef flakes (which are a step up in size from the sugar fine). I'm going with 2 Hydor Koralia Evolution 750's. The Vortech's are bad a** but extremely expensive. Sugar fine sand with a pump like that will most likely blow around unless precisely placed. But it is possible and if that's what you like....go for it. I'm starting the build phase of my aquarium tomorrow. I've been hardcore researching for at least 3 months straight and off and on for the last year. You can't be too educated or over-informed.
Just remember, you're going to get a lot of different opinions on a lot of different topics. No one person, myself included, can or should tell you what to do. My advice, go with the general consensus on answers you receive and never be afraid to buck the trend. Just realize that what works for one may not work for all. And be sure to do what you want to do, because in the end it's your money and your aquarium. So long as you minimize your mistakes (which you will make...we all have) and provide yourself with a room for a solid plan B, you'll be all good. Feel free to send me a PM if you have any questions. Good luck and good reefing to ya!

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Old 05/05/2012, 01:46 AM   #3
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I've heard that the sand begins to stay put once some bacteria and what now begins to grow in it. Not trying to hijack your thread but I have the same issues lol my sand is like powdered sugar

I could be addicted to worse things than reefing..

Current Tank Info: None at the moment :(
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Old 05/05/2012, 11:43 AM   #4
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I used 40lbs live oolite sand and it moved around a bit with my mp40 cranked up. I dialed it back to about 60%. I have mine anout 7 inches from top of tank. The sand will get better once it becomes established. It wont blow around much. You could always dial back the mp40 until you see less movement. They are expensive but worth it. I couldnt fathom the cost so i got one used from someone on here and i have no regrets. Im already looking to grab another one soon. Look into the maxspect leds. They are a bit cheaper and i personally love them.

110g rimless, Elite Aquatics sump, JNS ConeS Co2, ATI Sunpower, Vortech, Digital Aquatics RKE
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Old 05/06/2012, 08:26 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by drew2007 View Post
I used 40lbs live oolite sand and it moved around a bit with my mp40 cranked up. I dialed it back to about 60%. I have mine anout 7 inches from top of tank. The sand will get better
Thank you for this.....

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