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Old 05/04/2012, 05:08 AM   #1
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Anemone emergency

So I woke up this morning to find my purple lta sucked into my mp10. He seamed quite happy and planted himself deep in the sand so I don't know what's up. Any way as he floaters around he hit a big frag of purple style on my frag rack. There is a piece of tentacle stuck to the frag and a bunch of pieces on the sand and the water is slightly cloudy.

He is currently stuck in the mp10 so I just put the wet side of the pump on the sand to see if he works his hay out. I assume he is probably a gonner even though he is alive now.

Your thoughts? Is his wounds and whatever is leaking out dangerous to my other inhabitants?


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Old 05/04/2012, 05:34 AM   #2
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I took the we side of the mp10 apart and he is a bit cut up on one side.


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Old 05/04/2012, 07:17 AM   #3
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LTAs almost never recover from damage to their foot. It sounds like it's a goner.


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Old 05/04/2012, 07:29 AM   #4
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Well I should probably just throw him in mt qt till he dies.... Rather than having him knocking over frags as he floats around the tank assuming he gets free from the pump screen...

The tank was treated with copper months ago but has been up and running with carbon since... I really don't know.


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Old 05/04/2012, 04:04 PM   #5
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Never treat any tank intended for inverts with Copper, the copper can leech into the glass or acrylic and remain there for years as it slowly leeches into your tank. If the tank you used the copper in is your MT/QT you might as well just throw him away instead of placing him in there, He will just foul the water when he dies.


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Old 05/04/2012, 05:28 PM   #6
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I set up a quick qt. he finally free'd himself from the strainer. It's bad....I will post picks when I have a chance...


I was just commenting last night on how great he dug himself in, how good he colored up, how fast he grows etc... Soo dissapointed...


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Old 05/04/2012, 05:59 PM   #7
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Never treat any tank intended for inverts with Copper, the copper can leech into the glass or acrylic and remain there for years as it slowly leeches into your tank. If the tank you used the copper in is your MT/QT you might as well just throw him away instead of placing him in there, He will just foul the water when he dies.
that is a myth and copper can't get into the glass, acryclic or silicone, with a good rinse of the tank it will be free of copper.


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Old 05/05/2012, 03:12 PM   #8
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Bell here are the before and after pictures...


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Old 05/05/2012, 04:45 PM   #9
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Never treat any tank intended for inverts with Copper, the copper can leech into the glass or acrylic and remain there for years as it slowly leeches into your tank. If the tank you used the copper in is your MT/QT you might as well just throw him away instead of placing him in there, He will just foul the water when he dies.
Not true. I had a 75g tank that the previous owner had used copper in. The first test came back at 5ppm. I had some leach out for a couple of weeks. First coral in, kenya tree coral, closed up for a week and I did 20g water changes every 2 or 3 days for 2 weeks. At that point the coral opened and the copper test said zero. Used the tank for everything including sps, never had a problem.

To MHG, I don't think it looks that bad (hard to tell from the pics). I had a Condy get caught in a powerhead and it got torn up a lot worse than your nem looks. Mine only had a few tentacles left, but the trunk & foot were untouched. It took a good 2 months to heal up and another 4 to get back to it's original size. It's been happy and healthy in my nem tank for 18 months after it was back to full size and it now hosts a female cinnamon clown and a male tomato clown.

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Old 05/05/2012, 04:59 PM   #10
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WIth foot damage on a LTA- usually fatal. You may be one of the lucky few if it is only abraded and not torn all the way through. You still will have to hope against infection- but you do have a chance- perhaps with this one. If there are filiments comming out of the foot though- likely a lost cause,


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Old 05/05/2012, 07:05 PM   #11
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he is fully extended but hs chunks of meat slufing off his wound...Lots of black and gray tissue... Not good...


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Old 05/05/2012, 11:03 PM   #12
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Not true. I had a 75g tank that the previous owner had used copper in. The first test came back at 5ppm. I had some leach out for a couple of weeks. First coral in, kenya tree coral, closed up for a week and I did 20g water changes every 2 or 3 days for 2 weeks. At that point the coral opened and the copper test said zero. Used the tank for everything including sps, never had a problem.
Consider me mis-informed. Thank you for the information. I have been told by multiple LFS's and reefers that copper can leech into acrylic/glass and slowly leech back out for some time after. I guess to a point your post confirms this but the long term effects are obviously neglegent. Makes sense since any substance can only leech out for so long before it is removed by WC's.


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Old 05/11/2012, 11:41 AM   #13
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Update.


Well he has been in QT for a while now... Most of the black dead tissue has fallen off...Looking better but we will see...


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Old 05/16/2012, 08:09 PM   #14
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How's your nem doing now?


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Old 05/16/2012, 08:37 PM   #15
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Well he is loosing color but that is probably that cheasy small 10k bulb on my q tank. his would looks good but over all he is smaller and wont eat.


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Old 05/16/2012, 10:34 PM   #16
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That sucks, I hope that he ends up doing better


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Old 05/25/2012, 07:03 AM   #17
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Well he ate today for the first time since the incident.... Gonna build an egg crate box and put him back in the dt this weekend...


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Old 05/25/2012, 07:50 AM   #18
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sucks man. I have a bicolored condy that loves to walk a bout...hit the powerhead 4 times now, but so far no damage. I have been lucky. all my other anems stay planted, except for this one....he is like the austrailian hiker or something...

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"yup these goes Joe walking around again.....yup there goes Joe floating.....yup Joe is in the powerhead again"
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Old 05/25/2012, 02:25 PM   #19
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I was in mlMinnesota last week and the wife called saying my carpet walked into a powerhead! Still havent seen the fallout from that. Shortly though. Good luck with yyours, hope it comes around for you.


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Two days ago my gigantea got into a battle with one of my MP40s and lost. I don't use the foam covers since the anemone wasn't close to it,usually hugging the rocks. For some reason, it decided to stretch out and got yanked into the wetside. I ended up cutting out a piece of the wetside strainer to get it out. It was mangled pretty badly. It lost a few pieces of the outer edge of the oral disc and about a quarter of its diameter looked like a frayed blanket. However, today it looks like most of the edge is smoothed out and it's starting to heal.

This is a good reminder to other anemone owners to add foam guards to your MP40s/Tunzes/powerheads.

Best of luck! I'm sure it'll pull through.


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Old 05/25/2012, 05:39 PM   #21
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I had an H. magnifica make it into a strainer for closed loop system on my 475 DT TWICE in one year.....both times it was sucked in as far as it's foot - but I just shut off the reeflo baracudda pump and over about 12 hours it'd extract itself - but it'd have a kinda mangeled "franken-anemone" look afterwords.

Pictures are before (behind & left of the BTA) 12" diameter/stuck in strainer/afterwords about a week. It took 6 months for it to gorw back to 12" dia......then it did it again. It had to slither thru tiny cracks to get to the strainer....after the 2nd time it was worse - and looked really bad after - but it was recovering....I gave it away tp a friend.


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Old 05/26/2012, 01:43 AM   #22
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how´s the anemone?? Healed up?


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Old 05/26/2012, 05:11 PM   #23
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Old 06/15/2012, 03:28 PM   #24
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Well he is healed up in the Hospital tank. I had to bottow some t5 lighing because that cheap marine land 20 gallon tank hood wasnt doing the trick. He lost most of his color. I am gonna leave him in there for a couple more months as I dont need him bouncing around knocking frags off the shelves...


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Old 06/18/2012, 09:37 PM   #25
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hope all turns for the best..

broke down my 90 nd transfered sand nd live rock to 40 breeder w an S. Haddoni..

went into the tank in his prime nd woke up the next morning w him stuck in a Koralia 4..

he wasnt so lucky..

altho noob mistake on my half for transfering him to a new tank...

kinda happy he was gone cuz he took out a bunch of my poor lil fishie friends..

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