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Old 05/05/2012, 10:06 AM   #101
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I have been a aquarist for thirty years and have seen GREAT work and Crappy work, for that amount of money the hobbyist deserves 100 per cent without question satisfaction, otherwise it is not worth the time and dissappointment that will comw with knowing it is not what you thought you would recieve from a company that supposedly does excellent work. I wish you success and good luck in this day and age getting what you rightfully deserve.


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Old 05/05/2012, 10:33 AM   #102
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Any explanation on how the tank passed inspection before being shipped to you. Just got a quote on a large tank from them.
My experience with Miracles on my 3' x 3' rimless cube was not a good one. I was very disappointed with the little scratches and the plastic piece and external seams were not the best. However, the internal seams were flawless. I did find out that Miracles does not wet-test their tanks and their inspection process is cursory at best. Hopefully when you get water in it you won't notice anything.

andyvalk and geaux xman - take your little 5th grade bickering war somewhere else and quit hijacking the thread.


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Old 05/05/2012, 11:22 AM   #103
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My experience with Miracles on my 3' x 3' rimless cube was not a good one. I was very disappointed with the little scratches and the plastic piece and external seams were not the best. However, the internal seams were flawless. I did find out that Miracles does not wet-test their tanks and their inspection process is cursory at best. Hopefully when you get water in it you won't notice anything.

andyvalk and geaux xman - take your little 5th grade bickering war somewhere else and quit hijacking the thread.
My posts were initially in direct response to the OP. If you were so high and mighty you wouldn't have added your two cents. Have a nice day. Sorry to the OP. I shouldn't have answered your question.


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Old 05/05/2012, 09:09 PM   #104
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As previously posted I thought only acrylic tanks required a board and stryo foam on top of stand.
Pic without board and stryofoam:

Pic with board and stryofoam:

Trim will be installed soon to cover it all up.


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Old 05/05/2012, 09:18 PM   #105
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As a visual perspective, the fish is ten inches long.
Happy Cinco de mayo



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Old 05/05/2012, 09:26 PM   #106
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This couch sits directly in front of the tank. Family is getting bored and wondering when it will be filled.



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Old 05/06/2012, 01:27 PM   #107
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Stand is completed. Thank you jsanden






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Old 05/06/2012, 03:22 PM   #108
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It looks really good, never seen a rimless this big. I's going to be amazing, what light are you going to use? This tank would probably look really good with nice DIY pendants hung really high. There is a guy keeping SPS for over two years with nice DIY modules at about 36" from the tank, it look really clean...If I find the thread I'll post it.



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Old 05/06/2012, 05:13 PM   #109
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It looks really good, never seen a rimless this big. I's going to be amazing, what light are you going to use? This tank would probably look really good with nice DIY pendants hung really high. There is a guy keeping SPS for over two years with nice DIY modules at about 36" from the tank, it look really clean...If I find the thread I'll post it.
Thanks but DIY electrical is way beyond my skill level. For lighting I am thinking of using a 6 foot 8x39 watt T5 fixture (which i have lying around) for the front half and 3-4 led fixtures for back half. Currently comparing brands such as aqua illumination and blue line.

Next step is plumbing and DIY sump out of a 125 gallon.
I have no idea if this used 125 gallon ever saw copper. Based on the looks of the trim it is very old and I know it was used for fresh water fish. I have to assume that it did see copper. What do you suggest I do to treat it to make it reef safe.


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Old 05/07/2012, 12:41 AM   #110
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From what I've seen stated(from Randy and others) in the chemistry forum many times, wiping the sump down real good with plenty of vinegar and you should have nothing to worry about it. The silicone leaking copper is a myth.

Are you planning on any netting or any kind of cover over the tank? I ran mine topless for half a year without any fish jumping. I've since covered it with eggcrate now that I have more expensive fish in there. I've had 2 fish jump out of my QT tanks.

I apologized for the distractions from the the thread earlier.

Will you be able to slide the 125g sump into the stand?

Tank and stand is looking fantastic man.


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Old 05/07/2012, 07:28 AM   #111
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From what I've seen stated(from Randy and others) in the chemistry forum many times, wiping the sump down real good with plenty of vinegar and you should have nothing to worry about it. The silicone leaking copper is a myth.

Good to hear thank you

Are you planning on any netting or any kind of cover over the tank? I ran mine topless for half a year without any fish jumping. I've since covered it with eggcrate now that I have more expensive fish in there. I've had 2 fish jump out of my QT tanks.

I have seen others netting applications and believe its a good idea but I don't want to detract from the aesthetics. I will want to easily remove it when the tank is being vIewed. I was wondering About some type of retractable device like a solar pool cover.



I apologized for the distractions from the the thread earlier.

No problem.

Will you be able to slide the 125g sump into the stand? :

Everything will be in the basement.



Tank and stand is looking fantastic man.
Jasanden did an excellent job.


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Old 05/07/2012, 07:55 AM   #112
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Well Miracles and I reached an agreement over the flaw and received $400 cash back (essentially 10%). I personally would rather not have the flaw over the money but I am hoping that once the tank is filled, it wont bother me so much. Right now, my eyes are drawn to it.

I give a big to Miracles for their customer service.
The tank did have its flaws but keep in mind they:
-immediately responded to my concerns by phone and email, including offering a cell phone number to use over a weekend.
-travelled from Canada to Pennsylvania in attempts to resolve issues.
-never even questioned the possibility that the movers caused the scratches.
-provided cash refund when I was not 100% satisfied.

And YES, I would recommend Miracles and buy from them again but being better educated I would request a special inspection of glass for trapped gas dots (specifically at the surface). I would also make sure I had glass suction cups to use for the move.


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Old 05/07/2012, 04:39 PM   #113
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Tank

Glad to see that worked out for you,
After I read your post last week, I went in the garage and open up the crate and check my tank, it's flawless and I am happy with it, second tank with Miracles.

Hope to see more pics with live stock.


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Old 05/09/2012, 05:06 PM   #114
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Ordered plumbing parts and pump today. Decided to go with
Dolphin Amp Master Diamond Freshwater/Marine Abrasive Proof 90 Pump - 4750 GPH (Type-3) and ultra flex PVC hose. Can't wait to play.


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Old 05/09/2012, 05:33 PM   #115
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Where did you order your plumbing from? I been shopping for that too.

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Old 05/09/2012, 06:01 PM   #116
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Where did you order your plumbing from? I been shopping for that too.

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However, the 1.0 inch ultra flex is out of stock so I'm using reg flex hose instead. Also, I just purchased the last 30 feet of the 1.5 inch ultra flex so I have to use a combination of ultra flex and reg flex for the 1.5 size. This should be okay though because the majority of my plumbing is straight and not going in circles. Ultra flex is 40% more flex than regular flex.



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Old 05/09/2012, 06:16 PM   #117
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Fill iiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!

Well, get plumbing in place, and aquascaping if you're using dry rock, but hurry up and fill it.

A filled aquarium has an amazing ability to switch your focus to wonderful dreams of livestock - just try to focus at work .

I'd love to see LEDs over this bad boy, but that's just me. At least make whatever lighting you use sleek and stylish - it's the only way to do rimless justice.

Congratulations, though, this is going to be a beautiful system.

But seriously, like the Scotts' spokesperson says in the commercials, "Fill your tank. Fill it."


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Old 05/10/2012, 07:59 PM   #118
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Just a boring update-
developing cut list for DIY stand for sump in basement, keeping fingers crossed!
(2) red 2x6 W=73
(2) yellow 2x6 D-3=16
(4) green 2x4 H-2=34
(8) purple 2x4 H-9=27
(2) orange 2x4 W=73
(3) blue 2x4 D-3=16

I hope the dogs will let me use the truck without them.
Also ordered 200 pounds Pukani and 100 pounds branch from BRS


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Old 05/17/2012, 07:55 PM   #119
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Off from work and,,,it didnt rain. Not bad for my very first stand build. Measurements are little off but stand is square. Built for a 125 used as sump.







Also drilled glass for first time. Kept walking on me in the beginning till I reduced the angle.




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Old 05/17/2012, 08:49 PM   #120
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That is so odd. Above pics were uploaded on desktop from photobucket and viewed correctly. However, incorrect photos are showing on my iPhone.


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Old 05/21/2012, 01:00 AM   #121
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Is that a wood frame on your 125?


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Old 05/21/2012, 01:28 AM   #122
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Is that a wood frame on your 125?
Haha sure looks like it doesn't it!


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Old 05/21/2012, 06:59 AM   #123
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Is that a wood frame on your 125?
Nah it's a veneer type plastic material that was then stained. Either way it is old!


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Old 05/21/2012, 08:04 PM   #124
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wow awesome build man, sorry to hear about your expierince with miracles, but the tank looks awesome


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Old 05/21/2012, 09:08 PM   #125
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yea i cant wait for it to start filling up, im on board for this one. Always wanted to have a system that has its innards in the basement. Very nice tank.


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