Reef Central Online Community

Home Forum Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences View New Posts View Today's Posts

Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Search Reefkeeping ...an online magazine for marine aquarists Support our sponsors and mention Reef Central

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > Coral Forums > Coral Propagation and Aquaculture
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools
Old 05/08/2012, 11:39 AM   #1
Larry Grenier
Registered Member
 
Larry Grenier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Manassas, VA, USA
Posts: 378
Cutting Sarcophyton at the stalk?

I bought a good-sized mushroom leather from a local guy. It's head is about 5" across and it "stalk" or foot is 10" long and curved! In the previous owner's tank, the stalk was behind some rocks where it laid-down in the sand and then curved-up just before the head. I'd like to cut the stalk down to more like 5" and super-glue it to a small flatish rock so it stands a little nicer (more erect) and can be easily moved.

1) Good idea or bad idea?
2) High success rate for the top-half after cutting the stalk?
3) Will the "foot" likely grow a new head?

I've fragged Sarcophyton before but never cut the whole top-half off before.
Yes, I know to do the cutting in a seperate container.

Thanks for your advice.


Larry Grenier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05/08/2012, 12:14 PM   #2
cfredallen
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Clearwater, Fl
Posts: 275
super glue does not work on leathers. You will need to use a toothpick or something similar and insert it through the stalk about 1/4 to 1/2 inch above where you cut it and then use rubber bands to lightly attach it to the rock. usually takes about 2 weeks for it to fully attach itself to the rock. Once it is attached you can remove the toothpick. can also wedge it between 2 rocks until it attaches but the toothpick works best for me.


cfredallen is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05/08/2012, 12:26 PM   #3
insanefishguy
Registered Member
 
insanefishguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Palo Alto, PA
Posts: 810
Personally, I do not like rubber bands because of the constant tension and ability to pull through if not careful. I would get some zip ties and stab them trough the stem and pull it closed til the leather just barely touches whateveryou are attaching to. Don't worry if it's a little loose because once the leather reinflates it should be fine. Just recheck it then


__________________
~Joe Hylka

Current Tank Info: 335 total gallon system: 125 mixed reef under HO t5'S, 40g fuge, 75g frag tank, 55g sump, and 40g water change reservoir
insanefishguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05/08/2012, 12:51 PM   #4
insanefishguy
Registered Member
 
insanefishguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Palo Alto, PA
Posts: 810
Now to answer your other questions, it's a fine idea. I've done it to remove over grown leathers from big rocks. In my experience, any piece of leather can regrow polyps and form a nice new piece. I would put my success rate pretty darn close to 100% with leather frags. They are darn near bulletproof if you ask me. Only problem I ever had with one was when it got so huge that detritus kept settling in the middle and rotted a little hole in it. I cut the piece right down the middle and made some frags


__________________
~Joe Hylka

Current Tank Info: 335 total gallon system: 125 mixed reef under HO t5'S, 40g fuge, 75g frag tank, 55g sump, and 40g water change reservoir
insanefishguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05/09/2012, 09:41 AM   #5
Registered Member
 
jeff@zina.com's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Naples, FL
Posts: 3,352
I prefer to leave a leather frag (more like a cutting) in a low-flow area with rubble and let it attach, but all these methods work. Keep the base attached to whatever it's already on.

Jeff


jeff@zina.com is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05/09/2012, 04:48 PM   #6
Tahoe Reefer
Registered Member
 
Tahoe Reefer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Lake Tahoe, Ca
Posts: 459
When making frags I prefer to sew them to a rock with 2 - 3 stitches per pieces. When they get to over grown I chop off the heads and the stalks grow new polyps, expect some molting and give it a couple of weeks to grow a new head in medium to strong currnet. When they are sewn down ou can get away with higher current and IME they heal and grow faster in medium to strong flow.


__________________
Always learning.

Current Tank Info: 20G Long
Tahoe Reefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05/09/2012, 05:17 PM   #7
insanefishguy
Registered Member
 
insanefishguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Palo Alto, PA
Posts: 810
I agree with the medium to strong flow to help with the "shedding". Otherwise sometimes I need to help them


__________________
~Joe Hylka

Current Tank Info: 335 total gallon system: 125 mixed reef under HO t5'S, 40g fuge, 75g frag tank, 55g sump, and 40g water change reservoir
insanefishguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05/26/2012, 07:56 AM   #8
ItsNotJustFish
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SFL
Posts: 15
yes you can chop off the entire top and the bottom will grow back it just takes a while to become whole again but i dont recall ever having a problem
i used to use fishing line for attachment onto a rock but if you use fishing line be careful not to put too much pressure as it would just rip through


ItsNotJustFish is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:10 PM.


TapaTalk Enabled

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright 1999-2014