Mixed 500 gal. A.G.E. build. 12 unit LED Radion lights. - Page 42

david00061 · 04/28/2012, 05:00 PM

march 1 2012

april 28 2012

david00061 · 04/28/2012, 05:38 PM

feb 1 2012

april 28 2012

david00061 · 04/28/2012, 05:52 PM

I think i will keep my radions.

T.MONEY · 04/28/2012, 06:54 PM

^^ Agreed! lol

T.MONEY · 04/28/2012, 06:55 PM

Do you see a loss in color with your reds or pinks at all?

david00061 · 04/28/2012, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by david00061

feb 1 2012

march 10 2012

april 28 2012

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Originally Posted by david00061

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Originally Posted by T.MONEY

Do you see a loss in color with your reds or pinks at all?

No I don't. I dont have any deep red SPS yet. but my pinks look great.

bullitr · 04/28/2012, 08:01 PM

David your SPS is on steroid like Adie ( aflynn)

david00061 · 04/28/2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitr

David your SPS is on steroid like Adie ( aflynn)

Thank you. They are doing pretty good.

bullitr · 04/28/2012, 09:03 PM

Yup after I switch my lights to diy Radions inspired leds all colors really gets Better and it stop STN.

new2sw776784 · 04/29/2012, 01:05 AM

What do you use to suplemnt calcium and alk? Or does the 20% water change bi weekly handle your load? By the way nice thread and tank. Will be following along.

david00061 · 04/29/2012, 07:11 AM

I run a calcium reactor. I used the mag media in calcium reactor. I still need to drip 240 mm of soda ash mix in a 24 hour period. I buff my water before i add it also.
Mag runs 1400 calcium 425-475 alk 8 to 9

maxxII · 05/04/2012, 01:54 AM

David,
Just read your entire 42 page thread.
I'm very impressed with your tank and the growth of your corals.
Your pictures were the final tipping point of me jumping over to Radions. I now have three over my system, (three seperate tanks and a common sump).

I cant believe you're in St Jo....someday I will have to try and find a way to see your tank in person.....

With a larger system such as yours and the amount of evaporation you have on a daily basis, (you listed 7-12 gallons per day earlier in the thread), what are you doing to protect your house from salt vapor corrosion or humidity damage?
Also, are you having to do anything to maintain your pH what with your sump etc being in the basement, or is having the display upstairs enough to maintain pH for your tank?

My system is completely in the basement and in the summer, with the constant AC use, my pH gets depressed and I have to use a significant amount of Kalk to boost pH up to acceptable levels.

Thanks again for posting your build and the all the info contained within.

Nick

david00061 · 05/05/2012, 06:04 AM

Thank you, Your only 4.5 hours away. Come on up. Take the kids to Worlds of Fun.
I should have an air exchanger but I don't. Salt does not get in the air.
My pH probes have needed calibrated for a long time so I don't watch PH much. As long as I can maintain my Alk between 8-9 there is no reason to worry about PH. I do have to drip Soda Ash. It did take a while to get calcium reactor and soda ash drip dialed in. Now I just check Alk, Mag, and calcium once a week.

Sharkdog22 · 05/08/2012, 02:10 PM

nice set up

maxxII · 05/08/2012, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david00061

Thank you, Your only 4.5 hours away. Come on up. Take the kids to Worlds of Fun.
I should have an air exchanger but I don't. Salt does not get in the air.
My pH probes have needed calibrated for a long time so I don't watch PH much. As long as I can maintain my Alk between 8-9 there is no reason to worry about PH. I do have to drip Soda Ash. It did take a while to get calcium reactor and soda ash drip dialed in. Now I just check Alk, Mag, and calcium once a week.

Thank you for the kind offer. Someday I'll try to take you up on it.
I didnt used to worry about pH too much until last summer. I noticed some issues with my system even though the Dkh was pushing high 11's and Ca & Mg were fine. Decided to check pH and discovered it was dropping like a rock during the evening in the summer....I've been combating that with the increase in heat this year already.

I'll have to look up Worlds of Fun. I've got a better chance of making a cross state journey if I can bring the kids to something that they'll enjoy more than your tank....

Nick

david00061 · 05/15/2012, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharkdog22

nice set up

Thanks

david00061 · 05/15/2012, 05:23 AM

I have taken my lights way up. 100% with all colors for 6 hours. Lights have been running on this schedule for a few months. I have had great growth and color with my Acros.
My acros have grown a whole lot in 5 months.
I am going to start backing my time down to around 4 hours a day and after that i am going to get my high intensity down to about 75%.
The reason behind this light change is i want a mixed reef. Right now i have to keep all my Chalice's and other LPS corals tucked back in the shade and I can't really enjoy them.
I really think these lights will do both give my SPS growth and color and not bleach my LPS
I have all ready seen fantastic color and growth with my Acros
I will take a month to get my lights turned down.
Later this week I will post a few pics of my tank.

kmooresf · 05/15/2012, 09:19 AM

Is it possible to pick just a few lights to turn down........spot lighting so to speak. You could have a few of your units down for LPS and those over the majority of SPS can stay at 100%? I doubt you would be able to see the difference visually. Just a thought.

reefcrazydude · 05/15/2012, 01:36 PM

nice set up David, your sps growth great , nice to meet you at WWC on sunday

david00061 · 05/15/2012, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmooresf

Is it possible to pick just a few lights to turn down........spot lighting so to speak. You could have a few of your units down for LPS and those over the majority of SPS can stay at 100%? I doubt you would be able to see the difference visually. Just a thought.

Yes that is possible if my SPS were all in one area.
I have 12 Radions over a 109x40x27 lights are 8" above water.
So I have plenty of light when lights are set to 100%.
I want to find a happy balance.
The reason I did turn the lights up to 100% was so I could see what these lights were capable of doing.

wesleyforbes2 · 05/16/2012, 03:21 PM

I experienced the same thing David when it came to keeping acans, the light is just to strong. I may have to set up another LPS / zoas tank.

Sent from Wesley's Moto Atrix 4G using Tapatalk 2

david00061 · 05/16/2012, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesleyforbes2

I experienced the same thing David when it came to keeping acans, the light is just to strong. I may have to set up another LPS / zoas tank.

Sent from Wesley's Moto Atrix 4G using Tapatalk 2

I think we can find a happy medium. Aco's may not grow as fast but they should color up.

bullitr · 05/16/2012, 07:34 PM

It's very difficult to balanced a real mixed reef tank
My softies hasn't grown in 4 years some even recede some died a horrible death beause the water is too clean ,lights are too strong and flow is too strong.

attaboy · 05/20/2012, 02:49 PM

Have you tried growing SPS at the bottom of your tank 27" down? Curious how the growth / color will be that far from the radions.

Do you notice coralline on the glass much? I heard LEDs produce less algea and thus less work to clean the glass.

david00061 · 05/21/2012, 06:24 AM

With 3"-4" sand bed Im at 24" deep. I havent tried to grow any SPS on bottom.
I have tried to grow mushrooms, torches and chalaces. I cant to much light

Come to think about it no I dont see much coraline on glass

04/28/2012, 05:00 PM	#1026
david00061 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: st joseph Missouri Posts: 1,854	march 1 2012 april 28 2012 __________________ Current tank A.G.E. 500 gallon 12 EcoTech Radion XR30w LED Lights 2 mp60's 2 mp40's Super Reef Octopus 8000 external skimmer

04/28/2012, 05:38 PM	#1027
david00061 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: st joseph Missouri Posts: 1,854	feb 1 2012 april 28 2012 __________________ Current tank A.G.E. 500 gallon 12 EcoTech Radion XR30w LED Lights 2 mp60's 2 mp40's Super Reef Octopus 8000 external skimmer

04/28/2012, 05:52 PM	#1028
david00061 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: st joseph Missouri Posts: 1,854	I think i will keep my radions. __________________ Current tank A.G.E. 500 gallon 12 EcoTech Radion XR30w LED Lights 2 mp60's 2 mp40's Super Reef Octopus 8000 external skimmer

04/28/2012, 08:01 PM	#1032
bullitr broke but happy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: stevenson ranch, ca Posts: 10,775	David your SPS is on steroid like Adie ( aflynn) __________________ Lawrence SFVR member 435 gallon display in wall see through mixed SPS 140 gallon 32"cube starphire SPS dominant tank Current Tank Info: 96x36x29 inwall

04/28/2012, 09:03 PM	#1034
bullitr broke but happy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: stevenson ranch, ca Posts: 10,775	Yup after I switch my lights to diy Radions inspired leds all colors really gets Better and it stop STN. __________________ Lawrence SFVR member 435 gallon display in wall see through mixed SPS 140 gallon 32"cube starphire SPS dominant tank Current Tank Info: 96x36x29 inwall

04/28/2012, 06:54 PM	#1029
T.MONEY Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 109	^^ Agreed! lol

04/28/2012, 06:55 PM	#1030
T.MONEY Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 109	Do you see a loss in color with your reds or pinks at all?

04/29/2012, 01:05 AM	#1035
new2sw776784 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: newark ohio Posts: 369	What do you use to suplemnt calcium and alk? Or does the 20% water change bi weekly handle your load? By the way nice thread and tank. Will be following along.

04/29/2012, 07:11 AM	#1036
david00061 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: st joseph Missouri Posts: 1,854	I run a calcium reactor. I used the mag media in calcium reactor. I still need to drip 240 mm of soda ash mix in a 24 hour period. I buff my water before i add it also. Mag runs 1400 calcium 425-475 alk 8 to 9 __________________ Current tank A.G.E. 500 gallon 12 EcoTech Radion XR30w LED Lights 2 mp60's 2 mp40's Super Reef Octopus 8000 external skimmer

05/04/2012, 01:54 AM	#1037
maxxII Super Housemonkey! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St Louis Posts: 3,287	David, Just read your entire 42 page thread. I'm very impressed with your tank and the growth of your corals. Your pictures were the final tipping point of me jumping over to Radions. I now have three over my system, (three seperate tanks and a common sump). I cant believe you're in St Jo....someday I will have to try and find a way to see your tank in person..... With a larger system such as yours and the amount of evaporation you have on a daily basis, (you listed 7-12 gallons per day earlier in the thread), what are you doing to protect your house from salt vapor corrosion or humidity damage? Also, are you having to do anything to maintain your pH what with your sump etc being in the basement, or is having the display upstairs enough to maintain pH for your tank? My system is completely in the basement and in the summer, with the constant AC use, my pH gets depressed and I have to use a significant amount of Kalk to boost pH up to acceptable levels. Thanks again for posting your build and the all the info contained within. Nick __________________ A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn, that was fun!"

05/05/2012, 06:04 AM	#1038
david00061 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: st joseph Missouri Posts: 1,854	Thank you, Your only 4.5 hours away. Come on up. Take the kids to Worlds of Fun. I should have an air exchanger but I don't. Salt does not get in the air. My pH probes have needed calibrated for a long time so I don't watch PH much. As long as I can maintain my Alk between 8-9 there is no reason to worry about PH. I do have to drip Soda Ash. It did take a while to get calcium reactor and soda ash drip dialed in. Now I just check Alk, Mag, and calcium once a week. __________________ Current tank A.G.E. 500 gallon 12 EcoTech Radion XR30w LED Lights 2 mp60's 2 mp40's Super Reef Octopus 8000 external skimmer

05/08/2012, 02:10 PM	#1039
Sharkdog22 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lakeland Fl. Posts: 96	nice set up

05/15/2012, 05:23 AM	#1042
david00061 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: st joseph Missouri Posts: 1,854	I have taken my lights way up. 100% with all colors for 6 hours. Lights have been running on this schedule for a few months. I have had great growth and color with my Acros. My acros have grown a whole lot in 5 months. I am going to start backing my time down to around 4 hours a day and after that i am going to get my high intensity down to about 75%. The reason behind this light change is i want a mixed reef. Right now i have to keep all my Chalice's and other LPS corals tucked back in the shade and I can't really enjoy them. I really think these lights will do both give my SPS growth and color and not bleach my LPS I have all ready seen fantastic color and growth with my Acros I will take a month to get my lights turned down. Later this week I will post a few pics of my tank. __________________ Current tank A.G.E. 500 gallon 12 EcoTech Radion XR30w LED Lights 2 mp60's 2 mp40's Super Reef Octopus 8000 external skimmer

05/15/2012, 09:19 AM	#1043
kmooresf Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 127	Is it possible to pick just a few lights to turn down........spot lighting so to speak. You could have a few of your units down for LPS and those over the majority of SPS can stay at 100%? I doubt you would be able to see the difference visually. Just a thought. __________________ 290 mixed reef in progress.............Kris. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2126138 Current Tank Info: 290 gallon SPS heavy ALL LED tank. 450 gallon total system volume. 1 year old on Feb 18, 2013. ;)

05/15/2012, 01:36 PM	#1044
reefcrazydude Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: jax. Florida Posts: 66	nice set up David, your sps growth great , nice to meet you at WWC on sunday

05/16/2012, 03:21 PM	#1046
wesleyforbes2 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 341	I experienced the same thing David when it came to keeping acans, the light is just to strong. I may have to set up another LPS / zoas tank. Sent from Wesley's Moto Atrix 4G using Tapatalk 2

05/16/2012, 07:34 PM	#1048
bullitr broke but happy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: stevenson ranch, ca Posts: 10,775	It's very difficult to balanced a real mixed reef tank My softies hasn't grown in 4 years some even recede some died a horrible death beause the water is too clean ,lights are too strong and flow is too strong. __________________ Lawrence SFVR member 435 gallon display in wall see through mixed SPS 140 gallon 32"cube starphire SPS dominant tank Current Tank Info: 96x36x29 inwall

05/20/2012, 02:49 PM	#1049
attaboy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 256	Have you tried growing SPS at the bottom of your tank 27" down? Curious how the growth / color will be that far from the radions. Do you notice coralline on the glass much? I heard LEDs produce less algea and thus less work to clean the glass.

05/21/2012, 06:24 AM	#1050
david00061 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: st joseph Missouri Posts: 1,854	With 3"-4" sand bed Im at 24" deep. I havent tried to grow any SPS on bottom. I have tried to grow mushrooms, torches and chalaces. I cant to much light Come to think about it no I dont see much coraline on glass __________________ Current tank A.G.E. 500 gallon 12 EcoTech Radion XR30w LED Lights 2 mp60's 2 mp40's Super Reef Octopus 8000 external skimmer

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