Can someone help me ID these

septicdeath · 05/16/2012, 09:35 PM

I found a large deposit, about 1/3" wide and about 4" long (in a staggered line, not straight) and used my thumb to wipe it up from 1" under the water and out of the tank, after I was done, I thought I should have taken a photo. On closer inspection I found these, so I took some photo's. I have lots of pods in my sump and you can even see some of them in the photos. I have lots of Dwarrf Cerith's, Cerith's, mexican grazers, Nerites, Dwarf Planaxis, Nassarius Vibex's, so I think maybe they are snail eggs. I ask confused, because I had all these snail types in my 28g nano, and never saw this after 6-7 months, yet after 4 months in the 50, I am seeing it. Just not sure, thought I would ask.

The strings look kinda like the round disc's, but not exact, are they two different as well?

If it matters, I havent had any cyano in the tank until I decided to glue 8 Ricordia's to a small piece of BRS rock I had lying around, now that rock and the other rocks touching that rock have red cyano on them, so Im sure the rock is leeching phosphate (all my other rock was lyanthium treated, I just didn't do it to this softball sized rock).
Phosphate is still .03 hanna, ORP is 440 (no ozone), nitrate is 1-2.5 ppm, ammonia/nitrite are 0ppm, ph 8.12, salinity 35ppt, Cal is 495, Alk is 8.8dkh, Mg is 1410. Temp is a steady Apex RT (76-76.8 this week).

I dont think this matters at all, but thought I would mention.

Thanks for any assistance.

-John

Monkeyfish · 05/17/2012, 10:49 AM

! and 3rd pics look like limpets. The 2nd pic is of snail eggs.

cloak · 05/17/2012, 04:50 PM

I think they're all snail eggs. I don't know what kind of a snail layed the eggs in the second picture, (possibly cerith) but the eggs in the first and the third picture look like nerite snail eggs to me.

SushiGirl · 05/17/2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cloak

I think they're all snail eggs. I don't know what kind of a snail layed the eggs in the second picture, (possibly cerith) but the eggs in the first and the third picture look like nerite snail eggs to me.

+1

Not sure on the 2nd pic. Florida cerith eggs look different than that, not sure what dwarf cerith eggs look like, but I'd expect them to be similar to Florida cerith eggs. Definitely not Nassarius vibex eggs. I don't know anything about the Mexican grazer or dwarf Planaxis snail eggs, though.

septicdeath · 05/17/2012, 08:03 PM

here's a couple of questions.

#1, are the eggs a sign of generally decent water quality? Just looking at another factor to judge water quality. Or will they lay eggs in mud?

#2, should I get rid of the egg's (use my finger to squeege them up the tank wall and out of the tank?) Or worry about them? My understanding is just like all stuff that reproduces, without special attempts at feeding, they will just die, in which I ask because of adding to the bio load?

I have 3 types of pods seeded from Alagen(Tisbe, Acartia, std amphipods) and put in DT's phytoplankton once a week at 1/3 strength, although non of this is/was for the intent of the snail egg's. Im just asking so I can understand moving forward.

Again, not trying to raise snails, but thought I would ask questions, with the attitude if they dont do anything wrong (raise ammonia as they hatch/die/whatever)

Thanks in advance...

SushiGirl · 05/17/2012, 08:20 PM

Eggs can be a sign of a) "hey, I'm in a new location, I better breed like crazy in case I die" or "hey, this place is so great I wanna procreate!" LOL. In other words, when you get new snails, they'll lay eggs like crazy for a bit and if they like their environment they'll taper off but do it regularly. Not really a good determiner of water quality.

Snail eggs usually don't hatch, especially nerite eggs, which require shoreline conditions since they're tidal snails that spend a great deal of the day out of the water during low tide. It won't add any significant bioload to your system if they don't hatch.

septicdeath · 05/17/2012, 11:27 PM

Thanks, the tank and it's snails have been chilling for about 5 months, but I hear ya. I'm going to hope that they prove to be a healthy treat for something in the tank. I've been. Omonitoring ORP as a means to try to catch something going wrong, as in, without ozone, I've been running 415-455 ORP, and not really counting on the number as much as watching for a major drop in a short time frame. Just thought I'd ask about the snails, I understand that it could mean nothing, hell, I still remember one gentleman at the local club enjoying the hell out of the hundreds of aptasia reproducing in his tank, and all the cool worms and starfish that were reproducing, hey, to each his own, you should have seen the smile on this guys face, no one could even prepare to burst his bubble...

Thanks

-John

05/17/2012, 04:50 PM	#3
cloak Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 7,682	I think they're all snail eggs. I don't know what kind of a snail layed the eggs in the second picture, (possibly cerith) but the eggs in the first and the third picture look like nerite snail eggs to me. __________________ "The field mouse is fast, but the owl can see at night." Current Tank Info: 20 gallon DT, 10 gallon sump, 175 watt Hamilton 20K bulb, two 24 watt T5 actinics, Eshopps PSK-75 skimmer, mixed reef

05/17/2012, 08:20 PM	#6
SushiGirl Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Fort Worth, TX USA Posts: 8,044	Eggs can be a sign of a) "hey, I'm in a new location, I better breed like crazy in case I die" or "hey, this place is so great I wanna procreate!" LOL. In other words, when you get new snails, they'll lay eggs like crazy for a bit and if they like their environment they'll taper off but do it regularly. Not really a good determiner of water quality. Snail eggs usually don't hatch, especially nerite eggs, which require shoreline conditions since they're tidal snails that spend a great deal of the day out of the water during low tide. It won't add any significant bioload to your system if they don't hatch. __________________ Visit my Homepage or "My Albums" (via Profile) for hitchhiker pics. Current Tank Info: 55g softy/LPS tank & 20L reef tank

05/16/2012, 09:35 PM	#1
septicdeath Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 167	Can someone help me ID these I found a large deposit, about 1/3" wide and about 4" long (in a staggered line, not straight) and used my thumb to wipe it up from 1" under the water and out of the tank, after I was done, I thought I should have taken a photo. On closer inspection I found these, so I took some photo's. I have lots of pods in my sump and you can even see some of them in the photos. I have lots of Dwarrf Cerith's, Cerith's, mexican grazers, Nerites, Dwarf Planaxis, Nassarius Vibex's, so I think maybe they are snail eggs. I ask confused, because I had all these snail types in my 28g nano, and never saw this after 6-7 months, yet after 4 months in the 50, I am seeing it. Just not sure, thought I would ask. The strings look kinda like the round disc's, but not exact, are they two different as well? If it matters, I havent had any cyano in the tank until I decided to glue 8 Ricordia's to a small piece of BRS rock I had lying around, now that rock and the other rocks touching that rock have red cyano on them, so Im sure the rock is leeching phosphate (all my other rock was lyanthium treated, I just didn't do it to this softball sized rock). Phosphate is still .03 hanna, ORP is 440 (no ozone), nitrate is 1-2.5 ppm, ammonia/nitrite are 0ppm, ph 8.12, salinity 35ppt, Cal is 495, Alk is 8.8dkh, Mg is 1410. Temp is a steady Apex RT (76-76.8 this week). I dont think this matters at all, but thought I would mention. Thanks for any assistance. -John Last edited by septicdeath; 05/16/2012 at 09:40 PM.

05/17/2012, 10:49 AM	#2
Monkeyfish Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Long Island (NY) Posts: 3,729	! and 3rd pics look like limpets. The 2nd pic is of snail eggs. __________________ Eric Over the years I've learned enough to know that I know very little and have a lot more to learn. Current Tank Info: 12g softie tank, 75g SPS reef, 180g softie tank

05/17/2012, 08:03 PM	#5
septicdeath Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 167	here's a couple of questions. #1, are the eggs a sign of generally decent water quality? Just looking at another factor to judge water quality. Or will they lay eggs in mud? #2, should I get rid of the egg's (use my finger to squeege them up the tank wall and out of the tank?) Or worry about them? My understanding is just like all stuff that reproduces, without special attempts at feeding, they will just die, in which I ask because of adding to the bio load? I have 3 types of pods seeded from Alagen(Tisbe, Acartia, std amphipods) and put in DT's phytoplankton once a week at 1/3 strength, although non of this is/was for the intent of the snail egg's. Im just asking so I can understand moving forward. Again, not trying to raise snails, but thought I would ask questions, with the attitude if they dont do anything wrong (raise ammonia as they hatch/die/whatever) Thanks in advance...

05/17/2012, 11:27 PM	#7
septicdeath Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 167	Thanks, the tank and it's snails have been chilling for about 5 months, but I hear ya. I'm going to hope that they prove to be a healthy treat for something in the tank. I've been. Omonitoring ORP as a means to try to catch something going wrong, as in, without ozone, I've been running 415-455 ORP, and not really counting on the number as much as watching for a major drop in a short time frame. Just thought I'd ask about the snails, I understand that it could mean nothing, hell, I still remember one gentleman at the local club enjoying the hell out of the hundreds of aptasia reproducing in his tank, and all the cool worms and starfish that were reproducing, hey, to each his own, you should have seen the smile on this guys face, no one could even prepare to burst his bubble... Thanks -John