Rinsing PE MYSIS

NikeLV · 05/20/2012, 11:56 PM

Hey Reefers!

Is it okay to rinse frozen PE Mysis with RO/DI water instead of tank water?
I use PE Mysis for Saltwater fish.

Does Reef Nutrition Mysis-Feast contain a lot of phosphates? should I rinse that as well?

Thanks!

pledosophy · 05/21/2012, 12:59 AM

What's up Irvine

I used to rinse PE mysis 3x a day after soaking to remove that extra juice. Now I keep NPS corals so I don't but I feed the equivalent to 12 cubes a day to my tank.

You want to soak in SW to thaw, rinse with fresh, and then toss in the tank. That way the shrimp sink. I just rinsed with tap water but up here my tap is 10tds out of the faucet. (yet I still have an RODI unit when all my neighbors just run DI, I guess once you live in Irvine you always need the RO)

Cheers.

TimeConsumer · 05/21/2012, 01:53 AM

I used to rinse my frozen food until I read this article, particularly the section titled "Rinsing Foods and the Effect on Phosphate"

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/3/chemistry

It seems to me it just doesn't make that much of a difference. If you want to continue, it definitely won't hurt.

salman01 · 05/21/2012, 04:50 AM

does it really hurt the tanl if you don't rinse at all?

Randy Holmes-Farley · 05/21/2012, 05:56 AM

I never rinse mysis, but I use a different brand.

snorvich · 05/21/2012, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Holmes-Farley

I never rinse mysis, but I use a different brand.

I do not rinse Hikari mysis, but I do rinse PE mysis.

LargeAngels · 05/21/2012, 06:12 AM

Me too.

meanpressure · 05/21/2012, 06:20 AM

i rinse mine as well

heathlindner25 · 05/21/2012, 06:53 AM

I don't rinse mine I figure the coral get the little stuff

Randy Holmes-Farley · 05/21/2012, 07:03 AM

The question to ask is for people rinsing them, what do you hope to accomplish by rinsing them? There may be some reasons that make more sense than others.

LargeAngels · 05/21/2012, 11:18 AM

I rinse PE Mysis on FO tanks otherwise it gets a little cloudy.

cloak · 05/21/2012, 12:21 PM

I have never rinsed any of frozen foods I've used, and I've used a lot of them. No problem. (beefheart, Prime Reef, mysis, squid, brine shrimp, Emerald Entre, Veggie Delight, bloodworms, etc)

seapug · 05/21/2012, 12:29 PM

I always thoroughly rinse PE mysis. There's so much fat and oil that comes off when first thawed it'll cloud up your water and kill the skimmer head for hours. It's not so much a problem for Hikari and SF Bay, but PE is much different.

pledosophy · 05/21/2012, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Holmes-Farley

The question to ask is for people rinsing them, what do you hope to accomplish by rinsing them? There may be some reasons that make more sense than others.

I used to rinse to remove the broken up pieces of shrimp as my seahorses would only eat the fully intact shrimp. With the nutrient load of seahorses any help I could get was needed.

aleonn · 05/21/2012, 01:33 PM

I'm too lazy to thaw and rinse. Now I just throw in the whole cube to watch the fish peck at it.

Psirex · 05/21/2012, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Holmes-Farley

I never rinse mysis, but I use a different brand.

What brand?

Randy Holmes-Farley · 05/21/2012, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psirex

What brand?

I use Ocean Nutrition, but it Is not like I've carefully compared it to anything else. I feed it with a pipettesto my fish, mostly to make sure my Chelmon marginalis (a type of copper band butterfly) gets it's share.

IMO, rinsing the food may be a fine idea if the goal is removing things that cause the water to be cloudy, but I do not observe that in my tank.

feersomen · 05/21/2012, 03:14 PM

I feed large amounts of PE and rinse every time. Even with rinsing in RO water my sump will get an oily film from it. After rinsing i store the food in a bottle to soak with tank water and vitamins

Speaking with a PE rep they said not to rinse it since you are just washing away the good stuff as well.

NikeLV · 05/21/2012, 04:56 PM

Should I only rinse the PE Mysis with tank water?

I usually don't rinse fish foods, but I am feeding my Naso Blonde Tang with PE Mysis in his Quarantine Tank. No filter feeders, no need to add the extra junk

Hikari always has broken pieces of small size shrimp, so I went ahead and started using PE Mysis.

Thanks guys!

feersomen · 05/21/2012, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NikeLV

Should I only rinse the PE Mysis with tank water?

I usually don't rinse fish foods, but I am feeding my Naso Blonde Tang with PE Mysis in his Quarantine Tank. No filter feeders, no need to add the extra junk

Hikari always has broken pieces of small size shrimp, so I went ahead and started using PE Mysis.

Thanks guys!

I rinse mine with RO water, i haven't see any negatives.

Randy Holmes-Farley · 05/21/2012, 05:36 PM

If I were to rinse, I'd use tank water or tap water and not RO/ DI since I think RO/DI may be more inclined to burst cells and release the contents into the rinse water.

Butchhe · 05/21/2012, 05:45 PM

I quarter a cube of PE Mysis and rinse each quarter under tap water as needed. No problems so far.

SushiGirl · 05/21/2012, 06:06 PM

I never rinse my PE mysis. My corals love the cloudy stuff squirted on their polyps.

johandagentile · 05/21/2012, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeConsumer

I used to rinse my frozen food until I read this article, particularly the section titled "Rinsing Foods and the Effect on Phosphate"

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/3/chemistry

It seems to me it just doesn't make that much of a difference. If you want to continue, it definitely won't hurt.

thats what i read that made me stop rinsing it. i feel like it feeds my corals to.

05/20/2012, 11:56 PM	#1
NikeLV Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 168	Rinsing PE MYSIS Hey Reefers! Is it okay to rinse frozen PE Mysis with RO/DI water instead of tank water? I use PE Mysis for Saltwater fish. Does Reef Nutrition Mysis-Feast contain a lot of phosphates? should I rinse that as well? Thanks!

05/21/2012, 12:59 AM	#2
pledosophy Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beaverton Posts: 4,917	What's up Irvine I used to rinse PE mysis 3x a day after soaking to remove that extra juice. Now I keep NPS corals so I don't but I feed the equivalent to 12 cubes a day to my tank. You want to soak in SW to thaw, rinse with fresh, and then toss in the tank. That way the shrimp sink. I just rinsed with tap water but up here my tap is 10tds out of the faucet. (yet I still have an RODI unit when all my neighbors just run DI, I guess once you live in Irvine you always need the RO) Cheers. __________________ Current tank 125g display plumbed to a 65g refugium show, 30g refugium shrimp factory, 75g sump. New 120g Seahorse Macro algae tank.

05/21/2012, 01:53 AM	#3
TimeConsumer Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: New Orleans, La Posts: 1,018	I used to rinse my frozen food until I read this article, particularly the section titled "Rinsing Foods and the Effect on Phosphate" http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/3/chemistry It seems to me it just doesn't make that much of a difference. If you want to continue, it definitely won't hurt. __________________ Steve - Reefing by the seat of my pants 75g Mixed Reef - Reef Octopus Extreme XS 160 - 6x54w Fan Mod Tek Light - Dual MP10w - SG: 1.026 - Calc: 420ppm - Alk: 8dkh - Mag: 1300ppm

05/21/2012, 05:56 AM	#5
Randy Holmes-Farley Reef Chemist Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Arlington, Massachusetts Posts: 81,937	I never rinse mysis, but I use a different brand. __________________ Randy Holmes-Farley Club 65535 Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef

05/21/2012, 07:03 AM	#10
Randy Holmes-Farley Reef Chemist Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Arlington, Massachusetts Posts: 81,937	The question to ask is for people rinsing them, what do you hope to accomplish by rinsing them? There may be some reasons that make more sense than others. __________________ Randy Holmes-Farley Club 65535 Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef

05/21/2012, 04:50 AM	#4
salman01 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: grayslake, il Posts: 73	does it really hurt the tanl if you don't rinse at all?

05/21/2012, 06:12 AM	#7
LargeAngels Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,520	Me too.

05/21/2012, 06:20 AM	#8
meanpressure Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 130	i rinse mine as well

05/21/2012, 06:53 AM	#9
heathlindner25 Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: flowery branch georgia Posts: 155	I don't rinse mine I figure the coral get the little stuff

05/21/2012, 11:18 AM	#11
LargeAngels Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,520	I rinse PE Mysis on FO tanks otherwise it gets a little cloudy.

05/21/2012, 12:21 PM	#12
cloak Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 7,650	I have never rinsed any of frozen foods I've used, and I've used a lot of them. No problem. (beefheart, Prime Reef, mysis, squid, brine shrimp, Emerald Entre, Veggie Delight, bloodworms, etc) __________________ "The field mouse is fast, but the owl can see at night." Current Tank Info: 20 gallon DT, 10 gallon sump, 175 watt Hamilton 20K bulb, two 24 watt T5 actinics, Eshopps PSK-75 skimmer, mixed reef

05/21/2012, 12:29 PM	#13
seapug Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 4980 ft. Posts: 7,953 Blog Entries: 1	I always thoroughly rinse PE mysis. There's so much fat and oil that comes off when first thawed it'll cloud up your water and kill the skimmer head for hours. It's not so much a problem for Hikari and SF Bay, but PE is much different. __________________ insert clever saying here. Current Tank Info: 200 gallon custom Marineland DD peninsular tank. LPS dominated mixed reef. Previous 90 gallon mixed reef TOTM April 2009.

05/21/2012, 01:33 PM	#15
aleonn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,132	I'm too lazy to thaw and rinse. Now I just throw in the whole cube to watch the fish peck at it.

05/21/2012, 03:14 PM	#18
feersomen Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 52	I feed large amounts of PE and rinse every time. Even with rinsing in RO water my sump will get an oily film from it. After rinsing i store the food in a bottle to soak with tank water and vitamins Speaking with a PE rep they said not to rinse it since you are just washing away the good stuff as well.

05/21/2012, 04:56 PM	#19
NikeLV Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 168	Should I only rinse the PE Mysis with tank water? I usually don't rinse fish foods, but I am feeding my Naso Blonde Tang with PE Mysis in his Quarantine Tank. No filter feeders, no need to add the extra junk Hikari always has broken pieces of small size shrimp, so I went ahead and started using PE Mysis. Thanks guys!

05/21/2012, 05:36 PM	#21
Randy Holmes-Farley Reef Chemist Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Arlington, Massachusetts Posts: 81,937	If I were to rinse, I'd use tank water or tap water and not RO/ DI since I think RO/DI may be more inclined to burst cells and release the contents into the rinse water. __________________ Randy Holmes-Farley Club 65535 Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef

05/21/2012, 05:45 PM	#22
Butchhe Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Warner Robins, Georgia Posts: 56	I quarter a cube of PE Mysis and rinse each quarter under tap water as needed. No problems so far. __________________ 33g long mixed reef tank, 15g sump, SC-65 Skimmer, 40 lbs LR, LED lighting

05/21/2012, 06:06 PM	#23
SushiGirl Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Fort Worth, TX USA Posts: 8,042	I never rinse my PE mysis. My corals love the cloudy stuff squirted on their polyps. __________________ Visit my Homepage or "My Albums" (via Profile) for hitchhiker pics. Current Tank Info: 55g softy/LPS tank & 20L reef tank