replacing a hippocampus erectus

Bobtail1075 · 05/22/2012, 11:33 AM

I recengtly pitches a used seahorse setup that had a mated pair of black hippocampus erectus seahorses. Unfortunately the male died the day I was to pick it up so I was only able to get the female. I would like to get her a new mate though. I look up the hippocampus erectus and it shows allot of different color seahorses. I know I can't mix breeds so I want to make certain I get the correct male for her. Can you tell me if I can get any color hippocampus erectus to go with her? I know that the female is about 7 months old. I appolagize for my ignorence and I know I have allot to learn but I am learning everyday. Thank you for all the help everyone.

timinnl · 05/22/2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobtail1075

I recengtly pitches a used seahorse setup that had a mated pair of black hippocampus erectus seahorses. Unfortunately the male died the day I was to pick it up so I was only able to get the female. I would like to get her a new mate though. I look up the hippocampus erectus and it shows allot of different color seahorses. I know I can't mix breeds so I want to make certain I get the correct male for her. Can you tell me if I can get any color hippocampus erectus to go with her? I know that the female is about 7 months old. I appolagize for my ignorence and I know I have allot to learn but I am learning everyday. Thank you for all the help everyone.

If you buy a replacement male, don't fall for the trap of buying them by color. H. erectus can express a wide range of colors and pattern. I would first make sure everything is fine will your tank and the female. Why did the male die?

Kind Regards,

Tim

Bobtail1075 · 05/22/2012, 11:47 AM

I'm sure that we stressed him out by moving all the stuff in their tank before the move. Something may or may not have crushed him but I know everything was doing great up until the moment he died. I'm not so worried about color as much as I am just looking at my options on the next seahorse. I've made sure the tank was 100 percent after I brought it home so I'm not worried about the current condition and the female looks great and she is eating very well.

timinnl · 05/22/2012, 11:51 AM

What size tank is it? How long has it been sewt up for?

Bobtail1075 · 05/22/2012, 11:58 AM

20 gallon, it was set up for about 9 months before I got it. I saved as much water as I could and did a good water change and replaced all the filter media. It is running a tunze protein skimmer. I have a good idea as to what I'm doing but I just need to know what to replace the male with. I'm new to seahorses but I have been running a reef tank for over 5 years. Thank you.

mtc1966 · 05/22/2012, 12:34 PM

if you can replace the tank with a 29 g pushing it with 20g for two horses . but you do have a good skimmer so you may be able to pull it off with good water changes and husbandry . other then that make sure you get a captive breed male.

Bobtail1075 · 05/22/2012, 12:51 PM

I guess my question is "How do I know what captive bred male to add? Can I add any hippocampus erectus?

mtc1966 · 05/22/2012, 12:52 PM

yes any male erectus.

rayjay · 05/22/2012, 01:45 PM

In my experience it is not wise to just replace with any erectus.
Instead, find where the originals were purchased and get one from the same breeder as the original.
Mixing different sources of seahorses of the same species is as bad as mixing species in that one or both may die from the pathogens they expose to each other.
I agree, the 20g is not suitable for a pair of erectus, especially as they reach their full size. Is there a sump or refugium hooked to the system?
It would take a LOT more water changes and attention to tank husbandry than normal for it to work. Normal is even more husbandry than a reef tank.
For basic needs of seahorse keeping see the links at the bottom of "My Thoughts on Seahorse Keeping"

mtc1966 · 05/22/2012, 01:53 PM

Yes Rayjay is correct i should of worded that differently .

05/22/2012, 11:33 AM	#1
Bobtail1075 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Willseyville Posts: 865	replacing a hippocampus erectus I recengtly pitches a used seahorse setup that had a mated pair of black hippocampus erectus seahorses. Unfortunately the male died the day I was to pick it up so I was only able to get the female. I would like to get her a new mate though. I look up the hippocampus erectus and it shows allot of different color seahorses. I know I can't mix breeds so I want to make certain I get the correct male for her. Can you tell me if I can get any color hippocampus erectus to go with her? I know that the female is about 7 months old. I appolagize for my ignorence and I know I have allot to learn but I am learning everyday. Thank you for all the help everyone. __________________ May your pasts best days be your futures worst. --------------------- Some homeless looking old guy in Cortland.

05/22/2012, 11:47 AM	#3
Bobtail1075 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Willseyville Posts: 865	I'm sure that we stressed him out by moving all the stuff in their tank before the move. Something may or may not have crushed him but I know everything was doing great up until the moment he died. I'm not so worried about color as much as I am just looking at my options on the next seahorse. I've made sure the tank was 100 percent after I brought it home so I'm not worried about the current condition and the female looks great and she is eating very well. __________________ May your pasts best days be your futures worst. --------------------- Some homeless looking old guy in Cortland.

05/22/2012, 11:51 AM	#4
timinnl Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 315	What size tank is it? How long has it been sewt up for? __________________ Although happy to chat on PM I always prefer to ask for & give advice on the open forum. This allows for healthy debate and encourages correction of possibly (unintentional) incorrect information.

05/22/2012, 11:58 AM	#5
Bobtail1075 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Willseyville Posts: 865	20 gallon, it was set up for about 9 months before I got it. I saved as much water as I could and did a good water change and replaced all the filter media. It is running a tunze protein skimmer. I have a good idea as to what I'm doing but I just need to know what to replace the male with. I'm new to seahorses but I have been running a reef tank for over 5 years. Thank you. __________________ May your pasts best days be your futures worst. --------------------- Some homeless looking old guy in Cortland.

05/22/2012, 12:34 PM	#6
mtc1966 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: middletown,ct Posts: 5,778	if you can replace the tank with a 29 g pushing it with 20g for two horses . but you do have a good skimmer so you may be able to pull it off with good water changes and husbandry . other then that make sure you get a captive breed male. __________________ 65g seahorse tank 20g sump with a reef octopus skimmer ,tlf 150 reactor, red sea ozone generator controller,cpr hob fuge with light and 2 China led lights one 42x1 w and one 24x3 w. occupied by 4 ecectus seahorses a couple small gobies and cuc. Current Tank Info: 58g main with 20g sump

05/22/2012, 12:51 PM	#7
Bobtail1075 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Willseyville Posts: 865	I guess my question is "How do I know what captive bred male to add? Can I add any hippocampus erectus? __________________ May your pasts best days be your futures worst. --------------------- Some homeless looking old guy in Cortland.

05/22/2012, 12:52 PM	#8
mtc1966 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: middletown,ct Posts: 5,778	yes any male erectus. __________________ 65g seahorse tank 20g sump with a reef octopus skimmer ,tlf 150 reactor, red sea ozone generator controller,cpr hob fuge with light and 2 China led lights one 42x1 w and one 24x3 w. occupied by 4 ecectus seahorses a couple small gobies and cuc. Current Tank Info: 58g main with 20g sump

05/22/2012, 01:45 PM	#9
rayjay Premium Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,981	In my experience it is not wise to just replace with any erectus. Instead, find where the originals were purchased and get one from the same breeder as the original. Mixing different sources of seahorses of the same species is as bad as mixing species in that one or both may die from the pathogens they expose to each other. I agree, the 20g is not suitable for a pair of erectus, especially as they reach their full size. Is there a sump or refugium hooked to the system? It would take a LOT more water changes and attention to tank husbandry than normal for it to work. Normal is even more husbandry than a reef tank. For basic needs of seahorse keeping see the links at the bottom of "My Thoughts on Seahorse Keeping" __________________ 490g soft lps clams tangs b'flies clean wrasses, seahorses. All tanks lit with N.O.fluor., most Berlin method. No clean up crews. See website for N.O. fluor. pics. Culture nanno, rotifers and brine shrimp. Current Tank Info: Seahorses, Reef, and Fish only

05/22/2012, 01:53 PM	#10
mtc1966 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: middletown,ct Posts: 5,778	Yes Rayjay is correct i should of worded that differently . __________________ 65g seahorse tank 20g sump with a reef octopus skimmer ,tlf 150 reactor, red sea ozone generator controller,cpr hob fuge with light and 2 China led lights one 42x1 w and one 24x3 w. occupied by 4 ecectus seahorses a couple small gobies and cuc. Current Tank Info: 58g main with 20g sump