Apex chiller, and amp graph

DrHarryLopez · 06/30/2012, 10:22 AM

I set my chiller to go on at 79 and off at 77

afernandez · 06/30/2012, 02:04 PM

Looks like u have under control.

jarrett shark · 06/30/2012, 08:52 PM

Why is it going below 77???
Mine goes to the exact temp

DrHarryLopez · 06/30/2012, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarrett shark

Why is it going below 77???
Mine goes to the exact temp

Yo no se

I dunno

OzoneParkGuy · 07/01/2012, 11:56 AM

Hey Doc... I never had an Apex, but will soon enough.
The red graph.. is that the one for when your chiller goes on? What's the blue graph showing?? Is that temp prob monitoring the water or amps graph... I'm lost?? Can someone explain..please.

DrHarryLopez · 07/01/2012, 07:36 PM

Blue line is the chiller, red is the Amp line graph

Jarrett, I think the temp difference is because the chiller is cooler the water coming down by gravity from the overflows. That chilled water flows to the sump splits into the lagoon and Refug, thru the dual skimmers, Bio pellets, then back to the main display where the probe is located. I believe its a time delay function that the chilled water doesn't affect the probe into ALL the water is chiller.
Probe placement is important in large reef systems. If that made any sense

DrHarryLopez · 07/01/2012, 07:39 PM

Blue line is the chiller, red is the Amp line graph

Jarrett, I think the temp difference is because the chiller is cooler the water coming down by gravity from the overflows. That chilled water flows to the sump splits into the lagoon and Refug, thru the dual skimmers, Bio pellets, then back to the main display where the probe is located. I believe its a time delay function that the chilled water doesn't affect the probe into ALL the water is chiller.
Probe placement is important in large reef systems. If that made any sense

OzoneParkGuy · 07/01/2012, 09:47 PM

Well don't I feel like a monkey's uncle!!

It would have helped if I scrolled to the top right to see what the color graph ment Duh!

xclusive252 · 07/01/2012, 10:59 PM

One of the main reasons that can cause the Temp to go below or above the Temp he has set for the chiller is the Location of the probs to the feed of the chiller. If the prob is next to the outlet of the chiller then the graph will be more exact but if it is on the other side of the outlet then more cold water would have entered the tank and maybe go below the 77 degree mark. That used to happen to me but a moved the probes and it fixed the problem not that it was one to begin with just me being me.

DrHarryLopez · 07/02/2012, 08:14 AM

I believe that probe placement is very important but understanding that what you want is ALL the water chilled then placement of the probe near the input of the chiller would be the most accurate. Large reef setups would require adjustments on the program side over probe readings. i.e. to achieve 78* one would program chiller at 78.3* Smaller system may not need this type of programing adjustment.

newyork_redneck · 07/02/2012, 03:05 PM

Thank god I have no fish in my tank because I would be having a steamer pot for dinner!!

my tank got to 84.6 with lights off, its still cycling.... big problem i have is that my AC has gone bad in the area that i set it up at. That Chiller you have seems more and more appealing to purchase Ozonepark

xclusive252 · 07/02/2012, 09:25 PM

I agree with you doc as far as placing the prob in a tank like yours and in my tank it would not matter either since its so small lol. But maybe this is a new Topic we can do ???? Where we should place our probes and maybe what kinda of maintenance we are doing and things we can all improve on? Just me speaking out loud plus I like to hear how ppl clean there tank maybe I can steal an idea.

DrHarryLopez · 07/03/2012, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xclusive252

I agree with you doc as far as placing the prob in a tank like yours and in my tank it would not matter either since its so small lol. But maybe this is a new Topic we can do ???? Where we should place our probes and maybe what kinda of maintenance we are doing and things we can all improve on? Just me speaking out loud plus I like to hear how ppl clean there tank maybe I can steal an idea.

Great idea Eddie!

DrHarryLopez · 07/07/2012, 08:42 AM

Here is my current situation.
1/3 hp chiller inline and functioning
1/2 hp chiller sitting in closet

Temp control at this time is the chiller with the office central AC on set at 80*
That is the above graph.

So I decided to shut the central AC to test the chiller's capacity of handling 300+ gallons of water.

06/30/2012, 10:22 AM	#1
DrHarryLopez One Happy Reefer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ozone Park, New York Posts: 2,829	Apex chiller, and amp graph I set my chiller to go on at 79 and off at 77 __________________ NY Reef Club, President 210 g reef going strong since 1/2009 Current Tank Info: 220g reef, 55g Frag, 40g refuge, 75g sump, 2 Ati 250 Bubble masters, Wavebox, stream2, MP40's, blueline HD 100 main pump

06/30/2012, 02:04 PM	#2
afernandez frag plug hater! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: new york city! Posts: 1,150	Looks like u have under control. __________________ NY Reef Club it is not a hobby trust me its an addiction! Current Tank Info: 60g cube.APEX Controller, Ati 6 bulb(D) PM.MP10ES x2.SRO1000. 120g Apex controller, mp40w Es x2 tunze 6105 x1, Alfa vertex 170, 8 bulb ATI Dimable Sunpower, DC waveline 10000, Tunze Ato.

06/30/2012, 08:52 PM	#3
jarrett shark Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,059	Why is it going below 77??? Mine goes to the exact temp __________________ Vice President of "NY REEF CLUB" OFFICE 300gal SPS reef tank with 400gal sump,150 GAL Frag tank,30gal frag= 890gal total HOUSE 400gal reef tank with 250gal sump = coming soon. 5x3x3 with 1" think acrylic

07/01/2012, 11:56 AM	#5
OzoneParkGuy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Ozone Park, NY Posts: 2,005	Hey Doc... I never had an Apex, but will soon enough. The red graph.. is that the one for when your chiller goes on? What's the blue graph showing?? Is that temp prob monitoring the water or amps graph... I'm lost?? Can someone explain..please. __________________ 180 Gallon.... AT HOME!!

07/01/2012, 07:36 PM	#6
DrHarryLopez One Happy Reefer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ozone Park, New York Posts: 2,829	Blue line is the chiller, red is the Amp line graph Jarrett, I think the temp difference is because the chiller is cooler the water coming down by gravity from the overflows. That chilled water flows to the sump splits into the lagoon and Refug, thru the dual skimmers, Bio pellets, then back to the main display where the probe is located. I believe its a time delay function that the chilled water doesn't affect the probe into ALL the water is chiller. Probe placement is important in large reef systems. If that made any sense __________________ NY Reef Club, President 210 g reef going strong since 1/2009 Current Tank Info: 220g reef, 55g Frag, 40g refuge, 75g sump, 2 Ati 250 Bubble masters, Wavebox, stream2, MP40's, blueline HD 100 main pump

07/01/2012, 07:39 PM	#7
DrHarryLopez One Happy Reefer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ozone Park, New York Posts: 2,829	Blue line is the chiller, red is the Amp line graph Jarrett, I think the temp difference is because the chiller is cooler the water coming down by gravity from the overflows. That chilled water flows to the sump splits into the lagoon and Refug, thru the dual skimmers, Bio pellets, then back to the main display where the probe is located. I believe its a time delay function that the chilled water doesn't affect the probe into ALL the water is chiller. Probe placement is important in large reef systems. If that made any sense __________________ NY Reef Club, President 210 g reef going strong since 1/2009 Current Tank Info: 220g reef, 55g Frag, 40g refuge, 75g sump, 2 Ati 250 Bubble masters, Wavebox, stream2, MP40's, blueline HD 100 main pump

07/01/2012, 09:47 PM	#8
OzoneParkGuy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Ozone Park, NY Posts: 2,005	Well don't I feel like a monkey's uncle!! It would have helped if I scrolled to the top right to see what the color graph ment Duh! __________________ 180 Gallon.... AT HOME!!

07/01/2012, 10:59 PM	#9
xclusive252 NY Reef Club member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ridgewood, queens Posts: 410	One of the main reasons that can cause the Temp to go below or above the Temp he has set for the chiller is the Location of the probs to the feed of the chiller. If the prob is next to the outlet of the chiller then the graph will be more exact but if it is on the other side of the outlet then more cold water would have entered the tank and maybe go below the 77 degree mark. That used to happen to me but a moved the probes and it fixed the problem not that it was one to begin with just me being me.

07/02/2012, 08:14 AM	#10
DrHarryLopez One Happy Reefer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ozone Park, New York Posts: 2,829	I believe that probe placement is very important but understanding that what you want is ALL the water chilled then placement of the probe near the input of the chiller would be the most accurate. Large reef setups would require adjustments on the program side over probe readings. i.e. to achieve 78* one would program chiller at 78.3* Smaller system may not need this type of programing adjustment. __________________ NY Reef Club, President 210 g reef going strong since 1/2009 Current Tank Info: 220g reef, 55g Frag, 40g refuge, 75g sump, 2 Ati 250 Bubble masters, Wavebox, stream2, MP40's, blueline HD 100 main pump

07/02/2012, 03:05 PM	#11
newyork_redneck Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 81	Thank god I have no fish in my tank because I would be having a steamer pot for dinner!! my tank got to 84.6 with lights off, its still cycling.... big problem i have is that my AC has gone bad in the area that i set it up at. That Chiller you have seems more and more appealing to purchase Ozonepark

07/02/2012, 09:25 PM	#12
xclusive252 NY Reef Club member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ridgewood, queens Posts: 410	I agree with you doc as far as placing the prob in a tank like yours and in my tank it would not matter either since its so small lol. But maybe this is a new Topic we can do ???? Where we should place our probes and maybe what kinda of maintenance we are doing and things we can all improve on? Just me speaking out loud plus I like to hear how ppl clean there tank maybe I can steal an idea.

07/07/2012, 08:42 AM	#14
DrHarryLopez One Happy Reefer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ozone Park, New York Posts: 2,829	Here is my current situation. 1/3 hp chiller inline and functioning 1/2 hp chiller sitting in closet Temp control at this time is the chiller with the office central AC on set at 80* That is the above graph. So I decided to shut the central AC to test the chiller's capacity of handling 300+ gallons of water. __________________ NY Reef Club, President 210 g reef going strong since 1/2009 Current Tank Info: 220g reef, 55g Frag, 40g refuge, 75g sump, 2 Ati 250 Bubble masters, Wavebox, stream2, MP40's, blueline HD 100 main pump