This is what reef neglect looks like - Page 3

Joe Pusdesris · 09/09/2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NanoReefWanabe

your using phosban reactors as fluidized sand beds?

they are going to be pretty useless i would think for that....water flows through the sand in a tank no matter what, and bacteria will colonize it no matter where it is in the tank...you would be far better off putting chemipure or GFO or purigen or carbon in those reactors...fluidized sand filters have no place in reef/marine tanks. they do very little and clog very often.

personally i would trying to siphon out the flatworms to extinction.

I know that bed filters phased out of popularity some time ago, but I just like the idea of them. I don't know if they do anything but act as a mechanical filter, but I suspect they may assist in the breakdown of some unmeasurable organic compound. The aerobic bacteria have to be feeding on something, and I don't buy into the idea that there is not more aerobic bacteria in there than elsewhere. The sand is a different color. I don't really like any of those chemical sponges. I run them more as a "I have the equipment, and nothing else to do with it" than a "I need this to fix my tank."

I agree that siphoning flatworms is the best course of action for their treatment. I am moving the tank across the state today; it is interesting to see how many will survive. They are not really hurting anything, so they are last on my list of priorities. The most pressing is the caulerpa, which I will probably get a yellow tang to eat within the next month. Manual removal doesn't seem to be doing much, and I don't like what the peroxide treatment does to xenia.

As an aside, my kole tang seems like it might survive the move. I didn't expect it to live this long with the parasites, but it seems to be mostly cured at this point.

Joe Pusdesris · 09/10/2012, 12:49 PM

Well, everything looks terrible. The move was a bit of a disaster. I will post pictures eventually.

125G Reefer · 09/12/2012, 10:33 AM

Right on, very nice job if I might add.

Joe Pusdesris · 09/17/2012, 05:54 PM

I can't seem to find my camera, so here are some crappy phone pictures.

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Lwhite · 09/18/2012, 06:23 AM

Hey its all alive

It'll spring back again

Joe Pusdesris · 09/21/2012, 08:50 AM

I am pretty excited that one of my urchins survived the move. He looks pretty funny after dropping all his spines out of stress, but he is eating like crazy now and they seem to be growing back.

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This is my next problem to deal with.... I am getting a yellow tang in a couple of weeks.

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Joe Pusdesris · 09/22/2012, 06:17 PM

I am really impressed with just how much algae the yellow damsel eats. Relative to body size, I would say this thing eats as much as a tang... Granted it won't eat as large of a variety of different algaes as the tang will, but it seems there is enough of whatever it does eat to keep it busy. This thing is constantly picking at the back glass throughout the day and pooping a ton of green.

The yellowtail damsel on the other hand, doesn't even touch the stuff and sticks to flakes.

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akma · 09/22/2012, 10:36 PM

Bryopsis is such a pain to deal with. You can raise your mag with kent tech m. That works wonders. Also, lettuce nudi branches eat bryopsis and they look awesome.

Joe Pusdesris · 09/22/2012, 10:37 PM

That is not bryopsis.

RobPak84 · 09/29/2012, 07:41 PM

soft corals love dirty water. The most coral growth i've ever had was when I got lazy and quit doing water changes. I just added water and the corals would seem to double in size every week.

Katis · 09/30/2012, 10:32 AM

Thats alot of neglect,glad to see your clowns alive.

Joe Pusdesris · 10/01/2012, 05:46 PM

I got a few new fish, a yellow tang and yellow wrasse. Here's some up to date pictures. (hopefully the tang will take care of this caulerpa)

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Sapsis · 10/02/2012, 11:19 AM

where did you order the mylar from?

Joe Pusdesris · 10/02/2012, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sapsis

where did you order the mylar from?

http://htgsupply.com/Product-Mylar-o...ly---4-MIL.asp

sail33 · 10/04/2012, 10:52 PM

YIKES !! I hope you put that slime in a trash can several blocks away. PHEW ! Great save ! Clearly a very dedicated reefer.

May I suggest that you search the forums for "hydrogen peroxide algae control" ? I read a long thread on the subject a little while ago and it could help in control of future outbreaks. It really kills the stuff in 24 hours or less for green and 3 to 5 days for red or brown. One person describes draining the water level down and wiping the inside of the glass with a paper towel lightly dampened with H2O2 to prevent re-occurrence of even coraline.

Dosing methods and proportions are well described in the thread.

I'd post the link but my RC search capabilities are not working while using my lap top.

Best of luck.

Joe Pusdesris · 10/05/2012, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sail33

YIKES !! I hope you put that slime in a trash can several blocks away. PHEW ! Great save ! Clearly a very dedicated reefer.

May I suggest that you search the forums for "hydrogen peroxide algae control" ? I read a long thread on the subject a little while ago and it could help in control of future outbreaks. It really kills the stuff in 24 hours or less for green and 3 to 5 days for red or brown. One person describes draining the water level down and wiping the inside of the glass with a paper towel lightly dampened with H2O2 to prevent re-occurrence of even coraline.

Dosing methods and proportions are well described in the thread.

I'd post the link but my RC search capabilities are not working while using my lap top.

Best of luck.

I tried it in post #44, but I don't like it because it is too damaging to xenia. It isn't very effective against caulerpa anyways unfortunately.

Joe Pusdesris · 10/14/2012, 06:22 AM

I just got back from a long trip in Europe and somehow my damsels both died, but everything else seems ok. Bizarre.

yogoshio · 10/14/2012, 07:35 AM

Your levels were down obviously, but other than being a nuisance, the algae will technically deal with the nasties in the water, which is probably why everything did alright.

Joe Pusdesris · 10/17/2012, 04:35 PM

I haven't seen this in a few years. My xenia is reproducing sexually. Here is a picture with one of the eggs circled.

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Joe Pusdesris · 10/22/2012, 02:06 PM

The yellow tang has mostly cleaned up the caulerpa problem. I did use a little bit of peroxide on 2 of the rocks, but it was mostly the yellow tang.

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Curious George · 10/24/2012, 09:16 PM

Whoa! That's one heck of a turn around. Looking good sir.

Will be following along.

Joe Pusdesris · 10/29/2012, 04:50 PM

New damsels and a heater since it is starting to get cold outside. Things are starting to look decent. I want to get a bicolor angel, yellow fiji leather, and a few gobies now.

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SDKID · 10/29/2012, 07:59 PM

Amazing thread motivated me to clean up my freshwater tank after spending all my time and money on my reef. Some red head gobies or ORA yellow line gobies would be great additions for gobies unless you are looking for some larger species.

Joe Pusdesris · 10/29/2012, 08:01 PM

I am only doing blue/yellow livestock, so I was thinking yellow watchmen or clown gobies.

Joe Pusdesris · 10/30/2012, 09:35 AM

This school of damsels is displaying pretty amazing behavior. They move as a group at pretty much all times and will randomly retreat into the rocks all together. Very much like you would see a school of chromis doing in scuba videos. I have also witnessed them feasting on flatworms! I am 100% certain of this. I don't know if they are still just really hungry from starving at the store or what, but I saw them eating flatworms. Not just one either, but all of them as a group. They will pick them off the rocks and spit them in the water column, then they will each take bites until the flatworm is gone. There is also no aggressiveness whatsoever so far.

09/18/2012, 06:23 AM	#55
Lwhite Custom User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 216	Hey its all alive It'll spring back again __________________ Keep Calm Lounge On -Luke Current Tank Info: 40g Breeder Mixed Reef

09/22/2012, 10:36 PM	#58
akma Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 268	Bryopsis is such a pain to deal with. You can raise your mag with kent tech m. That works wonders. Also, lettuce nudi branches eat bryopsis and they look awesome. __________________ My Elos mini Build. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=20187841#post20187841 My Elos Midi Build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2150608 Current Tank Info: Predominately LPS acans, micros, rare paly's and zoos

10/02/2012, 11:19 AM	#63
Sapsis Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 97	where did you order the mylar from? __________________ 92 Gallon corner Mixed Reef Current Tank Info: 92 corner Full Reef

09/10/2012, 12:49 PM	#52
Joe Pusdesris Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 465	Well, everything looks terrible. The move was a bit of a disaster. I will post pictures eventually.

09/12/2012, 10:33 AM	#53
125G Reefer --Just An Observer-- Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Glendale,AZ Posts: 910	Right on, very nice job if I might add.

09/22/2012, 10:37 PM	#59
Joe Pusdesris Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 465	That is not bryopsis.

09/29/2012, 07:41 PM	#60
RobPak84 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 7	soft corals love dirty water. The most coral growth i've ever had was when I got lazy and quit doing water changes. I just added water and the corals would seem to double in size every week.

09/30/2012, 10:32 AM	#61
Katis Moved On Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: 33437 Posts: 61	Thats alot of neglect,glad to see your clowns alive.

10/04/2012, 10:52 PM	#65
sail33 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Sunny St. Pete, FL Posts: 523	YIKES !! I hope you put that slime in a trash can several blocks away. PHEW ! Great save ! Clearly a very dedicated reefer. May I suggest that you search the forums for "hydrogen peroxide algae control" ? I read a long thread on the subject a little while ago and it could help in control of future outbreaks. It really kills the stuff in 24 hours or less for green and 3 to 5 days for red or brown. One person describes draining the water level down and wiping the inside of the glass with a paper towel lightly dampened with H2O2 to prevent re-occurrence of even coraline. Dosing methods and proportions are well described in the thread. I'd post the link but my RC search capabilities are not working while using my lap top. Best of luck.

10/14/2012, 06:22 AM	#67
Joe Pusdesris Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 465	I just got back from a long trip in Europe and somehow my damsels both died, but everything else seems ok. Bizarre.

10/14/2012, 07:35 AM	#68
yogoshio Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Highland, IN Posts: 152	Your levels were down obviously, but other than being a nuisance, the algae will technically deal with the nasties in the water, which is probably why everything did alright.

10/24/2012, 09:16 PM	#71
Curious George Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 739	Whoa! That's one heck of a turn around. Looking good sir. Will be following along.

10/29/2012, 07:59 PM	#73
SDKID Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 5	Amazing thread motivated me to clean up my freshwater tank after spending all my time and money on my reef. Some red head gobies or ORA yellow line gobies would be great additions for gobies unless you are looking for some larger species.

10/29/2012, 08:01 PM	#74
Joe Pusdesris Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 465	I am only doing blue/yellow livestock, so I was thinking yellow watchmen or clown gobies.

10/30/2012, 09:35 AM	#75
Joe Pusdesris Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 465	This school of damsels is displaying pretty amazing behavior. They move as a group at pretty much all times and will randomly retreat into the rocks all together. Very much like you would see a school of chromis doing in scuba videos. I have also witnessed them feasting on flatworms! I am 100% certain of this. I don't know if they are still just really hungry from starving at the store or what, but I saw them eating flatworms. Not just one either, but all of them as a group. They will pick them off the rocks and spit them in the water column, then they will each take bites until the flatworm is gone. There is also no aggressiveness whatsoever so far.