Reef Central Online Community
Tunze USA

Home Forum Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences View New Posts View Today's Posts

Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Search Reefkeeping ...an online magazine for marine aquarists Support our sponsors and mention Reef Central

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > Coral Forums > Coral Propagation and Aquaculture
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Old 06/30/2014, 11:23 AM   #1
organism
code monkey
 
organism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: santa ana
Posts: 6,412
Video: Easily Fragging Acan lord with Coral Shears

I've gotten into so many debates that you don't need a bandsaw to frag most any LPS that I figured it was time to just make a video. You can frag almost anything with the $8 manicure shears you find at your local drugstore if you have a healthy, well-fed coral to start out with that has new growth on a smooth, thin surface.

The most important thing is to place the frags in an area with at least moderate flow and low to moderate light for at least 3-4 days after fragging. No need to spend $300 on a bandsaw to frag LPS, hope this helps!



Here are the pictures of the frags after healing, you can see they're open for feeding and the flesh has covered the old fragged skeleton. Keep in mind these aren't showy sale type pictures from the top down that show all the polyps, just pictures of the fragged edge.

Frag 1:





Frag 2:






__________________
I don't always grow frags... but when I do, I prefer Dos Acros
organism is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06/30/2014, 11:28 AM   #2
ryanerickson
Registered Member
 
ryanerickson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Vancouver bc canada
Posts: 109
I use this method when desperate and it works fine my biggest issue is the tearing of tissue. Band saw make a cleaner cut and no ripping the flesh in half.


ryanerickson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06/30/2014, 11:31 AM   #3
organism
code monkey
 
organism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: santa ana
Posts: 6,412
True, this isn't the most efficient way but at 3% the cost of a bandsaw it's definitely the most accessible for hobbyists. You can use a razor blade to make cleaner cuts on the tissue but I've never had issues with it as long as the corals were healthy and well-fed to start out with


__________________
I don't always grow frags... but when I do, I prefer Dos Acros
organism is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06/30/2014, 01:20 PM   #4
sohaltangs
Registered Member
 
sohaltangs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Buckeye country, Columbus
Posts: 131
When you say well fed, how often are you feeding them?

Thanks, Steve


sohaltangs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06/30/2014, 01:28 PM   #5
organism
code monkey
 
organism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: santa ana
Posts: 6,412
Those were fed FM LPS pellet food about a week before I fragged them, gave them time to digest and clear out the food.


__________________
I don't always grow frags... but when I do, I prefer Dos Acros
organism is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/02/2014, 08:56 AM   #6
lafayettereefer
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 103
I just tried this on my acan colony this morning and it works like a charm. Thanks for the post


lafayettereefer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07/03/2014, 10:47 PM   #7
BayouCorals
Registered Member
 
BayouCorals's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Shreveport
Posts: 114
I really liked the video. Do you have more some where? I also have your book and liked it also.


BayouCorals is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/04/2014, 09:40 PM   #8
AdamSabina
Registered Member
 
AdamSabina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,250
Great video thank you


AdamSabina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/05/2014, 08:16 AM   #9
RobH
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 87
Thank you, great video!


RobH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/05/2014, 12:24 PM   #10
organism
code monkey
 
organism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: santa ana
Posts: 6,412
Quote:
Originally Posted by BayouCorals View Post
I really liked the video. Do you have more some where? I also have your book and liked it also.
I do but they're really, really outdated and just not very good. I have a few planned to show some other low-tech fragging ideas but just haven't had time lately. Should have them done before the end of summer though, a few are things I've never tried so I'm looking forward to seeing how it goes. I figure more people would be fragging more of their corals if they could do it without spending a ton of money... Great to hear you liked the book!


__________________
I don't always grow frags... but when I do, I prefer Dos Acros
organism is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/08/2014, 09:49 AM   #11
enforcer8621
Registered Member
 
enforcer8621's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Northern IN
Posts: 545
A diamond wheel on a dremel has worked for me. But I agree with the shears if you don't have one.


enforcer8621 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/08/2014, 12:46 PM   #12
organism
code monkey
 
organism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: santa ana
Posts: 6,412
Those work great too, especially the bigger diamond wheels you can get that can really cut through some thick rocks, but for as low tech as you can get it's hard to beat $8ish


__________________
I don't always grow frags... but when I do, I prefer Dos Acros
organism is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/11/2014, 07:35 AM   #13
lafayettereefer
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 103
What is the name of your book?


lafayettereefer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07/11/2014, 02:10 PM   #14
organism
code monkey
 
organism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: santa ana
Posts: 6,412
To be honest I'd rather not come across as promoting anything, would prefer to keep the thread video focused if that's ok.


__________________
I don't always grow frags... but when I do, I prefer Dos Acros
organism is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/11/2014, 10:11 PM   #15
lafayettereefer
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 103
That's totally fine. I had no intentions of promoting anything I just enjoy a good read. I'll shoot you a pm though


lafayettereefer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07/15/2014, 06:37 AM   #16
discocarp
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Winter Park, FL
Posts: 2,709
I frequently use a hammer and flat head screwdriver to frag LPS with one quick pop. I don't have the best control over the frag size, but I can break a piece up quickly and cleanly without any heat. It works like a charm.


discocarp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/18/2014, 06:52 PM   #17
reefwars
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,313
another easy way to frag some lps colonies is to buy a hand grinder( angle grinder?) and put a 4" diamond disk on it for cutting tiles or stones.

on the under neath of the corals your going to cut several lines horizontally and vertically about half way through the rock or skelaton creating a grid of lines .

put a flattop screwdriver in one of the lines on back and twist , this will break the channel that you cut and then a new razor blade can be used to cut the flesh.

this works great and was my method before buying a bandsaw.

since all the work is actually done underneathe the coral survial rate is high , clean and less man handling of the corals


reefwars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07/30/2014, 01:01 PM   #18
organism
code monkey
 
organism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: santa ana
Posts: 6,412
Quote:
Originally Posted by discocarp View Post
I frequently use a hammer and flat head screwdriver to frag LPS with one quick pop. I don't have the best control over the frag size, but I can break a piece up quickly and cleanly without any heat. It works like a charm.
Quote:
Originally Posted by reefwars View Post
another easy way to frag some lps colonies is to buy a hand grinder( angle grinder?) and put a 4" diamond disk on it for cutting tiles or stones.

on the under neath of the corals your going to cut several lines horizontally and vertically about half way through the rock or skelaton creating a grid of lines .

put a flattop screwdriver in one of the lines on back and twist , this will break the channel that you cut and then a new razor blade can be used to cut the flesh.

this works great and was my method before buying a bandsaw.

since all the work is actually done underneathe the coral survial rate is high , clean and less man handling of the corals
That's some great advice, good to know!


__________________
I don't always grow frags... but when I do, I prefer Dos Acros
organism is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/08/2014, 06:40 PM   #19
Reefmaster1996
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Tampa
Posts: 12
Nice cans


Reefmaster1996 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/12/2014, 08:39 PM   #20
theacox
Registered Member
 
theacox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 68
What's the to the video? I would love to watch it...


theacox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/13/2014, 11:26 AM   #21
theacox
Registered Member
 
theacox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 68
I meant to say what's the link


theacox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/14/2014, 04:04 PM   #22
organism
code monkey
 
organism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: santa ana
Posts: 6,412
It's at the top of the first post, if it's not showing up you can see it at http://youtu.be/G7J2ZK_jSf0


__________________
I don't always grow frags... but when I do, I prefer Dos Acros
organism is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/25/2014, 03:36 PM   #23
theacox
Registered Member
 
theacox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 68
Organism is that a normal ceramic frag disk/plug your cutting apart in the video?


theacox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/25/2014, 03:39 PM   #24
theacox
Registered Member
 
theacox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 68
Also how long can coral be out of water like that


theacox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/25/2014, 08:07 PM   #25
organism
code monkey
 
organism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: santa ana
Posts: 6,412
Yeah it's a regular ceramic plug, one of the larger ones. As far as being out of the water I'm not sure. I've had Acans stay out for over an hour with no issues after forgetting them once, but usually I leave them out for no more than 10 minutes at a time.


__________________
I don't always grow frags... but when I do, I prefer Dos Acros
organism is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:12 PM.


TapaTalk Enabled

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2018 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright 1999-2014
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.