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Old 08/05/2015, 03:49 PM   #1476
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I have a shop and can send to any European country within 48h if you need anything that can't find there.


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Old 08/05/2015, 04:51 PM   #1477
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Any EU country your mean.
My UK supplier bailed out permanently because customs stopped a shipment coming my way.

This was years ago, but recently I filed a complaint.
Just now I found out that the requirements have been revised and they are much clearer now.

I need file for an import permit.
The exporter needs to provide a less than 10 days old health certificate from a vet and a certificate of origin is required.
Customs will take samples and do tests, inspections or quarantine as they please at my expense.

Can you just take orders and send the other EU countries living animals without any bureaucracy?


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Old 08/05/2015, 07:38 PM   #1478
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The main difference between a skimmer and a UV unit is that the skimmer removes them while the UV leaves them dead in the water for the skimmer to pick up later so a good skimmer seems to be the better choice.

I ran a small 9W pond UV for months some years ago without any positive effect.
To buy a 80W UV for a test does not appeal to me since they are expensive.
I disagree and so do many of the others who have tried it. I have a massive 12 foot skimmer with dual recirculating penductors running off a dolphin 6000 pump. It's a massive beast that can run on a pool. I had dinos on the tank it was on until I installed a slow flow UV. In a day, I saw results.


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Old 08/05/2015, 08:03 PM   #1479
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Agree with Karimwassef here. A 'good' skimmer alone will do virtually nothing against a dino monoculture. A 'good' skimmer run with UV will work if the UV is run at low flow.

If you're unwilling to do slow flow UV, you need to balance your microfauna (it's either one or the other). I'm convinced that phyto and pods will cure dino outbreaks. I'm in the process of getting cultures going though.


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Old 08/05/2015, 08:38 PM   #1480
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Agree with Karimwassef here. A 'good' skimmer alone will do virtually nothing against a dino monoculture. A 'good' skimmer run with UV will work if the UV is run at low flow.

If you're unwilling to do slow flow UV, you need to balance your microfauna (it's either one or the other). I'm convinced that phyto and pods will cure dino outbreaks. I'm in the process of getting cultures going though.
You can do both. I enhanced my fauna and ran UV.


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Old 08/05/2015, 08:39 PM   #1481
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I can see pods but phytoplankton?


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Old 08/05/2015, 09:02 PM   #1482
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What about a phyto culture kit from florida aqua farms and culture own, it's basically dry goods and will last 6 months without refrigeration.


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Old 08/05/2015, 09:40 PM   #1483
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Phyto is a food source. It needs to be constantly added. I don't expect it to have much of a half life in the tank.


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Not sure if you're talking to me or cal_stir, karimwassef.

But, if you go non UV and only the micro fauna balance route do you dose a lot of pods off the bat, then just feed phyto from there? Maybe on occasion add more/different pods than before..? The phyto is a food source for many things, but is it actually out competing dinos? If not, is the pod population out competing dinos? The idea of microfauna balance makes sense, although I don't understand what's keeping dinos in safe abundance.


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Old 08/05/2015, 11:56 PM   #1485
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I did. I added pods and phyto.
But for me, UV had the greatest impact.


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Old 08/06/2015, 10:47 AM   #1486
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Not sure if you're talking to me or cal_stir, karimwassef.

But, if you go non UV and only the micro fauna balance route do you dose a lot of pods off the bat, then just feed phyto from there? Maybe on occasion add more/different pods than before..? The phyto is a food source for many things, but is it actually out competing dinos? If not, is the pod population out competing dinos? The idea of microfauna balance makes sense, although I don't understand what's keeping dinos in safe abundance.
That's it in a nutshell for me, 9 weeks dino free.
I dose 200ml of phyto 4 x daily, also culturing copepods and amphipods.


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Old 08/06/2015, 11:32 AM   #1487
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The effects of the toxins produced are debated, but there are theories.

One is that their purpose is to stunt the growth of their predators.
This fits our problems at eliminating them just fine.
In my tank SPS don't grow, the predators are missing and dinos dominate.

Another is that dinos use the toxin to find each other for sexual purposes.
This also fits perfectly how Ostreopsis sp gather in my tank.
The fission is the fast division, but fusion is for genetic variability.


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Old 08/06/2015, 12:26 PM   #1488
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So the toxins killed big snails and big crabs. It didn't kill pods, or urchins, or small snails and crabs. There may be a threshold that impacts large predators disproportionately.


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Old 08/06/2015, 07:58 PM   #1489
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Any EU country your mean.
My UK supplier bailed out permanently because customs stopped a shipment coming my way.
Sounds a lot like importing into Canada. And we supposedly have free trade with the U.S.

What about dry phyto? Many health food stores here are touting the health benefits of phytoplankton. Apparently the stuff can survive being freeze-dried as I've seen sites selling dry disks for culture. Might be tough to find a brand that tells you what the actual ingredient is, but worth a net search maybe?

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Old 08/06/2015, 09:58 PM   #1490
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That's it in a nutshell for me, 9 weeks dino free.
I dose 200ml of phyto 4 x daily, also culturing copepods and amphipods.
A couple questions:
-you dose 200 mL of phyto 4 x a day? That seems like a lot. How big is your system?
-what's your process to culture copepods and amphipods?


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Old 08/07/2015, 03:54 PM   #1491
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A couple questions:
-you dose 200 mL of phyto 4 x a day? That seems like a lot. How big is your system?
-what's your process to culture copepods and amphipods?
I have a 90g display and about 220g water volume and a vertex alpha 200 skimmer that skims 24/7.

I culture copepods in a bucket at 1.024 and an air line @ 3 bubbles per sec. and feed fresh phyto, the same for amphipods except I feed them enriched flakes.
Water changes every couple weeks, room temp. and ambient light.


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Old 08/07/2015, 04:06 PM   #1492
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Got a pic? How did you start it?


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Old 08/07/2015, 05:10 PM   #1493
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This is a link to the phyto culture that I used.
http://melevsreef.com/node/1615

This is the link to the copepods culture except I feed fresh phyto.
http://www.brineshrimpdirect.com/c90...aring_a_bucket
I got the copepods from Live Aquaria.

This is a video I used for the amphipods.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7df2F_-8ao
I got the amphipods from Indo Pacific Sea Farms.
Eventually the amphipods will be abundant in the tank and I will stop culturing them but I plan to continuously culture the copepods.

This is my copepod culture, I plan to move it to a permanent location. I scoop the out with a brine shrimp sieve.
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Old 08/07/2015, 05:20 PM   #1494
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Old 08/07/2015, 05:57 PM   #1495
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This is my tank.
Nice I have a 90 but absolute no color right now. Wish I had 200+ gallons of water as well. I am starting to get some hair algae growing. Started to increase my clean up crew.


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Old 08/07/2015, 09:14 PM   #1496
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Just got finished transferring my phytoplankton culture from a small water bottle to 1 gal (2.5 gallon jug)

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Old 08/08/2015, 11:54 AM   #1497
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Did a 15gallon water change last Sunday and just in the last day or two I saw a few small new dinos. Can tell by the bubbles.

Not sure if the water change had anything to do with it or what.


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Did a 15gallon water change last Sunday and just in the last day or two I saw a few small new dinos. Can tell by the bubbles.

Not sure if the water change had anything to do with it or what.
I would cease with the water changes at this point, if your cleaning the sandbed then run the water through a filter and put it back in.
maybe turn off your skimmer for a couple days.


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I would cease with the water changes at this point, if your cleaning the sandbed then run the water through a filter and put it back in.
maybe turn off your skimmer for a couple days.
Skimmer has been off for two weeks now and I have a bare bottom tank.

Instead of water changes I am vacuuming into a filter sock and reusing the water.

I am definitely seeing some new dino growth in places that had cyanobacteria before the chemiclean. Not many have bubbles at this point. Most of the bubbles I saw previously disappeared.


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Skimmer has been off for two weeks now and I have a bare bottom tank.

Instead of water changes I am vacuuming into a filter sock and reusing the water.

I am definitely seeing some new dino growth in places that had cyanobacteria before the chemiclean. Not many have bubbles at this point. Most of the bubbles I saw previously disappeared.
Are you sure its not diatoms?


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