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Old 08/31/2015, 05:22 PM   #1676
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Ya I used algae barn but I really liked reefcleaners pods and pods+
http://www.reefcleaners.org/aquarium-store/pods
Mine look just like that and its majority on my sand bed.


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Old 08/31/2015, 05:33 PM   #1677
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Yes, my nitrate and phos read 0. Thought I was close to winning when I saw hair algae on rocks. Maybe my gha suggests I have mainly diatoms in those rusty patches?

Found what he was talking about. It is a diatom filter. Filled with diatomaceous earth . RC thread talking about it but no mention of Dino's: POLL Diatom Filters using Diatomaceous Earth


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Old 08/31/2015, 05:55 PM   #1678
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Yes, my nitrate and phos read 0. Thought I was close to winning when I saw hair algae on rocks. Maybe my gha suggests I have mainly diatoms in those rusty patches?

Found what he was talking about. It is a diatom filter. Filled with diatomaceous earth . RC thread talking about it but no mention of Dino's: POLL Diatom Filters using Diatomaceous Earth
Quite possibly diatoms harboring dinos, that is what I had at the end stages of the battle.


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Old 08/31/2015, 05:56 PM   #1679
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Hmmmm, a diatomaceous filter running in the dark as the main filter with high in-tank flow for several days should scrub the water pretty aggressively. Has anyone tried this?


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Old 08/31/2015, 06:14 PM   #1680
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Some do, some don't. After removing skimmer, no water changes, and more feeding, I have gha, diatoms, Dino's, and cyano.

I decided to go to a place I haven't been before in Chicago to get some pods, so trying that method now

The guy there actually mentioned a Dino Filter you can buy. I'm trying to find it on the internet now . Never heard of it before.

The picture was taken just now about 1 hour before lights come on. I also did a siphoning 24 hrs before the pic was taken.

So what's the consensus on siphoning? Leave the Dino's alone or siphon into filter sock in sump like I've been doing?
Ah ok. Reason I ask is because I have similar looking stuff on my sand but they don't go away at night. They are just as ugly during the day. Tang eats it too and no snail deaths. But they do have bubbles occasionally.

Where in Chicago are you getting pods? I've just been getting em online at various places. Would be awesome to get some local.


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Old 08/31/2015, 06:35 PM   #1681
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Stopped by old town aquarium for the first time. They had one of those copepod and phyto culture tanks going


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Old 09/01/2015, 01:19 PM   #1682
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Is it true that dinoflagellates dies in fresh water? If so, I will be siphoning out my top layer of sand into a bucket with ro/di to rinse. Then re add to tank. Is this okay? Or nah?


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Old 09/01/2015, 02:11 PM   #1683
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The dinoflagellates should die if exposed long enough to fresh water. I don't know what the time limit might be, though, and I'd expect a few to survive here and there. Rinsing the sand might remove some detritus. I'd be tempted, though, to soak the sand in RO/DI with a powerhead and check the phosphate level after twelve hours or so, to see whether the sand is leaching a significant amount of phosphate.


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Old 09/01/2015, 03:05 PM   #1684
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Is it true that dinoflagellates dies in fresh water? If so, I will be siphoning out my top layer of sand into a bucket with ro/di to rinse. Then re add to tank. Is this okay? Or nah?
I thought about cleaning my sand and reusing it but did not want to take the chance so I replaced the sand with new after dinos were gone. Dinos are resilient little buggers.


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Old 09/01/2015, 04:09 PM   #1685
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I thought about cleaning my sand and reusing it but did not want to take the chance so I replaced the sand with new after dinos were gone. Dinos are resilient little buggers.
How did you get rid of them?


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Old 09/01/2015, 04:10 PM   #1686
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I just did a water change. Way too much Dino on my sand bed. Going to do 3 days lights out now and will be dosing hydrogen peroxide every day. 3 ml each day for my 29 g biocube.

Switching filter floss and carbon pad out today as well.


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Old 09/01/2015, 04:26 PM   #1687
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How did you get rid of them?
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Old 09/01/2015, 04:58 PM   #1688
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Old 09/01/2015, 05:00 PM   #1689
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If you're still fighting and haven't tried pods and phyto yet, do it!

Look at my posts and pics from the last week. Was going good then moved rock around and got a huge bloom. Two days ago I siphoned the bloom out from gravel, yesterday I added pods and phyto, get this... Today when I got home from work was the first time I didn't have to siphon gravel in a LONG TIME!!




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Old 09/01/2015, 05:18 PM   #1690
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It's a GREAT feeling isn't it.


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Old 09/01/2015, 05:28 PM   #1691
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It's a GREAT feeling isn't it.

Yes! You were the one that told me pods would be the nail in the coffin, correct?
Thanks
It's too early to tell if this will last but it's been the biggest improvement I've seen in months.
Now I'm paranoid to change anything. Should I switch out phosphate media or leave it? Put my skimmer back in or leAve it out? I dunno.
I'm thinking of starting a refugium since I already have a refugium sump that I only put a skimmer in. I'm thinking just adding one piece of live rock, light, and cheato


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Yes! You were the one that told me pods would be the nail in the coffin, correct?
Thanks
It's too early to tell if this will last but it's been the biggest improvement I've seen in months.
Now I'm paranoid to change anything. Should I switch out phosphate media or leave it? Put my skimmer back in or leAve it out? I dunno.
I'm thinking of starting a refugium since I already have a refugium sump that I only put a skimmer in. I'm thinking just adding one piece of live rock, light, and cheato
Yes that was me.
I would start the skimmer on the dry side but go easy on phosphate media, I would try to keep po4 @ .03 and continue with the phytoplankton, I'm not sure how much your dosing but I was dosing 100ml 4x a day in a 200gal system, after a couple weeks I noticed algae patches forming on the sand(I know it was only algae because I have a microscope) I then cut the dose in half and it cleared up in short order, I haven't vacuumed my sand for a couple weeks and it looks great and I do 15gal water change weekly and run half the carbon I use to. I'm still using the 10uM socks.
My po4 has been as hi as .06 and as low as .02 without issue.



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Old 09/01/2015, 08:34 PM   #1693
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Yes that was me.
I would start the skimmer on the dry side but go easy on phosphate media, I would try to keep po4 @ .03 and continue with the phytoplankton, I'm not sure how much your dosing but I was dosing 100ml 4x a day in a 200gal system, after a couple weeks I noticed algae patches forming on the sand(I know it was only algae because I have a microscope) I then cut the dose in half and it cleared up in short order, I haven't vacuumed my sand for a couple weeks and it looks great and I do 15gal water change weekly and run half the carbon I use to. I'm still using the 10uM socks.
My po4 has been as hi as .06 and as low as .02 without issue.
How much phyto do you guys dose for a 30 gal? And any specific phyto? And do you just throw in thousands of pods at once?


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How much phyto do you guys dose for a 30 gal? And any specific phyto? And do you just throw in thousands of pods at once?
I would dose 60ml a day and hundreds of pods in a 30 gal to start.
I dose tetraselmis and nannochloris


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I would dose 60ml a day and hundreds of pods in a 30 gal to start.
I dose tetraselmis and nannochloris
I dk if you know this or not, but what does dosing phytoplankton do?


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I dk if you know this or not, but what does dosing phytoplankton do?
It feeds the plankton, micro fauna, critters, etc., the stuff that I believe keeps the dinos in check.


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Old 09/02/2015, 07:25 PM   #1697
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Yes! You were the one that told me pods would be the nail in the coffin, correct?
Thanks
It's too early to tell if this will last but it's been the biggest improvement I've seen in months.
Now I'm paranoid to change anything. Should I switch out phosphate media or leave it? Put my skimmer back in or leAve it out? I dunno.
I'm thinking of starting a refugium since I already have a refugium sump that I only put a skimmer in. I'm thinking just adding one piece of live rock, light, and cheato
Wow, looking good!
I'm paranoid, so I wouldn't touch a thing for at least a few months.

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Old 09/03/2015, 10:44 PM   #1698
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So the only brown stuff I see is mainly on my front and side glass.

Please help me ID

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Old 09/03/2015, 10:52 PM   #1699
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That looks like bacteria?


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Old 09/03/2015, 10:56 PM   #1700
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That looks like bacteria?
according to this, the closest thing I could find was diatoms.

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2008-12/feature/index.php

Its like a brown filamentous algae on my glass, near dust like. Depending on how thick it is, comes off like dust.

This also appeared a week after using chemi-clean. No trace of cyano anywhere.

Snails are all over it too



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