Reef Central Online Community
Blue Zoo Aquatics

Home Forum Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences View New Posts View Today's Posts

Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Search Reefkeeping ...an online magazine for marine aquarists Support our sponsors and mention Reef Central

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > Coral Forums > Soft Coral Keepers
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools
Old 02/05/2017, 10:12 AM   #1
Kaiser699a
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 121
Softies not growing much

Hi folks. I'm just looking for a bit of general guidance for mushrooms and zoas. I have 5 or 6 individual mushrooms, 2 individual ricordea and 2 frags of zoas with 5 - 6 heads. I am wandering why they are not growing, splitting or spreading at all. I have acans, blastos, candy canes and torch that are all growing and "pupping" but the softies won't do much. Params are ok, ok in that LPS are doing great. Do I need softer light? Less flow do you think?


Kaiser699a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02/27/2017, 05:10 AM   #2
Kaiser699a
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 121
Any advise out there?


Kaiser699a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02/27/2017, 10:38 AM   #3
TokiHacker
Registered Member
 
TokiHacker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Mobile, Alabama
Posts: 450
Well.... looks like your lps is doing good but the softies not so much?

what are you params?

If I had to take a guess alkalinity is a little high or no nitrates in the water at all.


__________________
180 GAL Mixed Reef Build | 20GAL JBJ Frag Tank | 25GAL Rimless Reef | 29GAL Chiragra Mantis Shrimp Tank | 55gal Cube Fowlr
TokiHacker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02/27/2017, 04:24 PM   #4
Cajunreefer87
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 53
I have noticed the same thing in my tank, but the few zoas I have are growing new heads. Just growing much slower than the LPS.


Cajunreefer87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02/28/2017, 08:04 AM   #5
Kaiser699a
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 121
Nitrates are 0. I thought softies would still grow though. I feed quite light as I only have 3 small fish. Should I try no skimmer for a few days or something?


__________________
120g (US) DT with 40g (US) sump. Softies and LPS. Shrimp, Emerald Crab and CUC. Red Fire Fish, Tangaroa Goby, Bicolour Blenny, Sunspot Goby, Exquisite Wrasse, Royal Gramma and Red Velvet Wrasse
Kaiser699a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02/28/2017, 01:02 PM   #6
jayball
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,566
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser699a View Post
Nitrates are 0. I thought softies would still grow though. I feed quite light as I only have 3 small fish. Should I try no skimmer for a few days or something?
What are you lighting the tank with?


jayball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/01/2017, 04:57 AM   #7
Kaiser699a
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 121
Tank is 100g UK with Evergrow LEDs currently running at 40% max during my profiles 3 peak hours. Maybe I should start ramping that up some but do I need nitrate in the water too?


__________________
120g (US) DT with 40g (US) sump. Softies and LPS. Shrimp, Emerald Crab and CUC. Red Fire Fish, Tangaroa Goby, Bicolour Blenny, Sunspot Goby, Exquisite Wrasse, Royal Gramma and Red Velvet Wrasse
Kaiser699a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/01/2017, 09:45 PM   #8
VirginiaMarine
Registered Member
 
VirginiaMarine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lynchburg, VA
Posts: 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser699a View Post
Hi folks. I'm just looking for a bit of general guidance for mushrooms and zoas. I have 5 or 6 individual mushrooms, 2 individual ricordea and 2 frags of zoas with 5 - 6 heads. I am wandering why they are not growing, splitting or spreading at all. I have acans, blastos, candy canes and torch that are all growing and "pupping" but the softies won't do much. Params are ok, ok in that LPS are doing great. Do I need softer light? Less flow do you think?
Have you tried moving them around in the tank? I don't glue corals in my tank until I find where they are happiest. Some enjoy low current and high light or low light and high current or some combination. Move them around if you can and see if they improve.


VirginiaMarine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/02/2017, 12:39 PM   #9
Kaiser699a
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 121
Moved a few this afternoon and turned up LEDs 10%. Hopefully that will help.


__________________
120g (US) DT with 40g (US) sump. Softies and LPS. Shrimp, Emerald Crab and CUC. Red Fire Fish, Tangaroa Goby, Bicolour Blenny, Sunspot Goby, Exquisite Wrasse, Royal Gramma and Red Velvet Wrasse
Kaiser699a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/02/2017, 01:14 PM   #10
TokiHacker
Registered Member
 
TokiHacker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Mobile, Alabama
Posts: 450
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser699a View Post
Nitrates are 0. I thought softies would still grow though. I feed quite light as I only have 3 small fish. Should I try no skimmer for a few days or something?
Personally I have found phenomenal success if I have Nitrates around 5ppm. That is a very happy place for mine, and my toadstool is massive in 6 months.


__________________
180 GAL Mixed Reef Build | 20GAL JBJ Frag Tank | 25GAL Rimless Reef | 29GAL Chiragra Mantis Shrimp Tank | 55gal Cube Fowlr
TokiHacker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/12/2017, 04:02 AM   #11
hellssephiroth
Registered Member
 
hellssephiroth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Spencer, WI
Posts: 298
My leathers seem to like a dirty tank. Once I started not doing a water change for 6 months at a crack they took off like wild fire.


hellssephiroth is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03/13/2017, 04:50 AM   #12
miranda1960
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 125
softies and zoa and ricordea likes some nutriets .. nitrate 0 is too low these are very good for sps ...


miranda1960 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/25/2017, 04:22 AM   #13
Kaiser699a
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 121
A while ago I found my sg was too low due to incorrectly calibrated refractometer. That was a problem. I am trying a few "easier" SPS now and they are going well. It must be the low nutrient levels I am running at that are stunting the softies. I'll be carrying on this way though because I don't want algae problems. Probably when my fish stock gets nearly full the nutrients will creep up and the softies will take off.


__________________
120g (US) DT with 40g (US) sump. Softies and LPS. Shrimp, Emerald Crab and CUC. Red Fire Fish, Tangaroa Goby, Bicolour Blenny, Sunspot Goby, Exquisite Wrasse, Royal Gramma and Red Velvet Wrasse
Kaiser699a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09/12/2017, 02:56 PM   #14
bo0sted2g
Registered Member
 
bo0sted2g's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Vail Colorado
Posts: 216
My tank used to be at 0 Nitrate and my lps was doing good my blasto grew a bunch of new heads but my xenia shriveled up to not even visible. my zoas were barely ever open.

I got a Dino outbreak and started dosing KNO3 and my pink zipper zoas are bigger than ive ever seen and grew 3 new polyps and my xenia grew back from what I thought was certain death.

5-10ppm nitrate seemed to be a good spot but I got overboard with dosing it and went up to 30+ and everything still looked amazing. so dirty your water up a bit and I bet that will help a ton.

you probably don't have to manually dose it. just cut back on water changes and feed more! I just wasn't able to raise it past 0 with the dino's besides manually pouring it in.


bo0sted2g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10/08/2017, 10:44 PM   #15
Uncle99
Registered Member
 
Uncle99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 109
Zoos love good moderate flow and medium light, that is say 150 to 250 par. They are usually the easiest to please so if the don't look right try moving them. Watch changes in intensity, they need to acclimatize to higher lights


Uncle99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10/23/2017, 07:48 AM   #16
Kaiser699a
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 121
I have been running fishless for around 70 days now to rid the tank of ich. I have been feeding for clean up crew and shrimps. I haven't done any water changes for the duration and the softies are now starting to grow. Must have been just too nutrient free for them. I am getting some algae growth as well now though and hopefully my fish will help with that when they go back in in a few weeks time. I will start small water changes when the fish are back in.


__________________
120g (US) DT with 40g (US) sump. Softies and LPS. Shrimp, Emerald Crab and CUC. Red Fire Fish, Tangaroa Goby, Bicolour Blenny, Sunspot Goby, Exquisite Wrasse, Royal Gramma and Red Velvet Wrasse
Kaiser699a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11/01/2017, 04:05 PM   #17
hellssephiroth
Registered Member
 
hellssephiroth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Spencer, WI
Posts: 298
My leather tank likes it dirty. No water change in 2 years. Everything grows like wildfire. I am going to be moving the tank and I am actually worried by putting fresh water in it when I restart it I will have issues. I used to try to keep doing water changes to keep the water nice and clean, but nothing grew and the corals seem to hate it when I did them for a few weeks.

Haha! I didn't notice I replied to this way back in march also



Last edited by hellssephiroth; 11/01/2017 at 04:11 PM.
hellssephiroth is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:15 PM.


TapaTalk Enabled

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2017 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright 1999-2014