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Old 12/30/2017, 09:42 AM   #1
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Question Any foreseeable issues with running an up flow ATS in refugium?

Title says it all.

I’m about to build my ATS and the most convenient place to position it in my system is in my 75g refugium. I planned on keeping the par38 lamp running over the Chaetomorpha like normal but using a section to attach my ATS.

The refugium is gravity fed from the display and is a comfortable 3.5’ off the ground with an open top.

Anyone see any issues with this?

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Old 12/30/2017, 10:17 AM   #2
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I doubt you will have much luck running the ATS with Chaeto, I tried running both and the Chaeto just withered away and fell apart making a huge mess. The ATS grew fantasic, one will most lilely out compete the other. If you go upflow your Chaeto will most likely continue to grow well and the ATS will not.


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Old 12/30/2017, 12:14 PM   #3
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I doubt you will have much luck running the ATS with Chaeto, I tried running both and the Chaeto just withered away and fell apart making a huge mess. The ATS grew fantasic, one will most lilely out compete the other. If you go upflow your Chaeto will most likely continue to grow well and the ATS will not.
Why do you believe the chaeto will put perform the up flow? I was figuring the other way around since my chaeto grows so slowly.


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I see no purpose in running both a chaeto fuge & an ATS.

Pick one, design it correctly, & it will remove excess nutrients efficiently.

Personally, I believe a downflow ATS is the most efficient, and whatever type of emerald green algae grows on the screen it will be more efficient at filtering than the typical chaeto used in a fuge.


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Old 01/03/2018, 05:50 PM   #6
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I see no purpose in running both a chaeto fuge & an ATS.

Pick one, design it correctly, & it will remove excess nutrients efficiently.

Personally, I believe a downflow ATS is the most efficient, and whatever type of emerald green algae grows on the screen it will be more efficient at filtering than the typical chaeto used in a fuge.
Solid point about picking one and dialing it in.

During the past week I have changed out my par 38 bulb for a red and blue 450-650nm specific bulb. I’ve seen obvious growth already and my pH shot up to 8.4 yesterday. Looks like “more light” in the refugium might be my issue.


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An ATS will far out perform and out compete cheato in my experience. My cheato was doing well, but my nitrates and phophates were still to high and I had some gha in the tank. I added an ATS in my weir and my nitrates and phosphates quickly droped as the algae pn the ATS grew and my cheato all but disappeared as did the gha in the display.


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"Any foreseeable issues with running an up flow ATS in refugium?"
Yes. The turf algae could invade the display tank killing your coral, discoloring your water, and basically making a mess of the whole system.


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"Any foreseeable issues with running an up flow ATS in refugium?"
Yes. The turf algae could invade the display tank killing your coral, discoloring your water, and basically making a mess of the whole system.
Only this doesn't happen in reality; quite the opposite!


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Only this doesn't happen in reality; quite the opposite!
I agree. I had a fair bit of green hair algae in my display and my large Refugium full of cheeto was not doing the job. I added the ATS and the algae in the display started to go away within a month.


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